Nutsy,

I really am not happy getting into this discussion but I'd like to
remind the "heelers" that you can heel a boat to a capsize without
forward motion.

A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!

Heeling is a necessary evil to sail power and should be kept to a
minimum. If your boat is heeling 30 Deg or more, it means you are
shortening your affective sail plan height, your sail plan is getting
outside of your hull plan ( Causing weather helm).

This heeling maybe increasing water line lenght but at the same time it
is decreasing sail height, decreasing keel depth. decreasing rudder
depth. Probably increasing leeway

Try keeping the sail above the boat and not to the side and you'll sail
fast and better

Get the boat back on her feet. Nothing good happens bent over!!

"I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom

Dumb Question BB,

The logic is faulty? "Which is faster a 10ft Kayak or a 14ft?" If ,as
you say, keep the same proportions, a 100ft kayak with the same Guy
paddling should be way, way faster. NOT SO!!

Ole Thom

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
Dumb Question BB,

The logic is faulty? "Which is faster a 10ft Kayak or a 14ft?" If ,as
you say, keep the same proportions, a 100ft kayak with the same Guy
paddling should be way, way faster. NOT SO!!

Ole Thom


Has anyone told you lately, Ole Thom, that you are such a great "guy"!

A mountain of knowledge you are...

LP (cheers to you)

Has any one told you lately, Ole Thom, that you are such a great
"guy"

Just me!!!

Ole Thom

A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!


This is not rationonal, since some heel and resulting extended WL is an
intended function of a given design. It's not an "evil" but a known factor that
designers considered and worked with. Calling heel "evil" would be like calling
wetted surface "mean."

RB

RB

Heel isn't evil, its just silly. You could spill your drink! Everyone knows a
proper boat should sail perfectly upright.

-jeff
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" -Jessica Rabbit


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!


This is not rationonal, since some heel and resulting extended WL is an
intended function of a given design. It's not an "evil" but a known factor
that
designers considered and worked with. Calling heel "evil" would be like
calling
wetted surface "mean."

RB

RB

You degenerate! First a Nonsuch, then a cat. What's next?
A....gasp...Trawler?!?! OH! the humanity!

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:59:00 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

Heel isn't evil, its just silly. You could spill your drink! Everyone knows a
proper boat should sail perfectly upright.

-jeff
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" -Jessica Rabbit


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!


This is not rationonal, since some heel and resulting extended WL is an
intended function of a given design. It's not an "evil" but a known factor
that
designers considered and worked with. Calling heel "evil" would be like
calling
wetted surface "mean."

RB

RB

BB,

I own an 11 foot Kayak. I know what you're trying to say. I still say
your logic isn't complete.

Have you even considered a Racing Canoe/ Kayak? I know you haven't. You
have locked yourself in with certain limits in your own mind.

OT

Actually, before the Nonsuch I had a Paceship Eastwind. Not an Alberg, but a
similar design. Before that I raced IODs, and a mess of dinghies. I suppose
some might say I've gone downhill.

The thought of a trawler is attractive if we do ICW cruising again. But I'd get
a powercat, like the PDQ MV34.
http://www.pdqyachts.com/ver2/yachts...rFrameSet.html

Then I'd have to get a small, personal cruiser, like a Nonsuch 22 or 26.

And, as my daughter says, "Oh, the Huge Manatee!"



"Marc" wrote in message
...
You degenerate! First a Nonsuch, then a cat. What's next?
A....gasp...Trawler?!?! OH! the humanity!

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:59:00 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

Heel isn't evil, its just silly. You could spill your drink! Everyone knows
a
proper boat should sail perfectly upright.

-jeff
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" -Jessica Rabbit


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!


This is not rationonal, since some heel and resulting extended WL is an
intended function of a given design. It's not an "evil" but a known factor
that
designers considered and worked with. Calling heel "evil" would be like
calling
wetted surface "mean."

RB

RB

Marc wrote:
You degenerate! First a Nonsuch, then a cat. What's next?
A....gasp...Trawler?!?! OH! the humanity!

heh heh a trawler makes a lot of sense for the way most people cruise.

DSK