Its hard to imagine that an Irwin is better than any boat. The one that I
chartered for a season was falling apart, quite literally. It was 8 years old.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some Lancers.

RB

Its hard to imagine that an Irwin is better than any boat. The one that I
chartered for a season was falling apart, quite literally.

I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became of
Bucaneer.

You ever sail one jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the
US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became
of
Bucaneer.

You ever sail one jaxy?


Scotty, no one doubts that your boat can move. But the fact, and I do think you
know this, is that the Siedlemann line is known for poor quality with some
boats being lemons. I've looked at the Sailnet boards and some of the owners
operate on the "I've got a good one" theme. Not exactly the level of better
O'Days and even Macs.

RB

Not knowing the meaning of "better" is how you ended up with a Siedlemann.



Dang. True. But the other side is that Scotty was warned off by a few. He just
wanted 30 feet in the same way Gayanzy wants 8 inches.
A good friend of mine wanted a 33-35 footer, but when she saw how far the money
would go, she set her sights on a 29-30 footer with about 20K to spend.
I think Scotty spent 2 or 3K on his boat and he was taken. When it comes to
boats One man's garbage is...another man's garbage. Too bad Scotty has yet to
learn this.

RB

8 inches? Is that for you or your moma? I'm not sure which would be
worse.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Not knowing the meaning of "better" is how you ended up with a
Siedlemann.



Dang. True. But the other side is that Scotty was warned off by a few. He
just
wanted 30 feet in the same way Gayanzy wants 8 inches.
A good friend of mine wanted a 33-35 footer, but when she saw how far the
money
would go, she set her sights on a 29-30 footer with about 20K to spend.
I think Scotty spent 2 or 3K on his boat and he was taken. When it comes
to
boats One man's garbage is...another man's garbage. Too bad Scotty has yet
to
learn this.

RB

Been aborad both Siedlemans and a US Yacht. Never sailed any. Have seen US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors. The
Siedlemans I hav seen sailing (including your own) seemed to sail decently.



You ever sail one jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the
US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became
of
Bucaneer.

Never sailed any. Have seen US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors.


There's US Yachts 30 at my club. Not terrible looking, but in bad shape. It
actually sails okay. I tried to sell it a year ago for 2K or less. No takers.
If Scotty wanted a boat to fix up, he should have started with an old Pearson,
Alberg or even a Catalina. At least he would have had something in the
end...and some dignity.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote


At least he would have had something in the
end...


sounds like one of your dates.