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Maynard G. Krebbs January 11th 04 05:02 AM

Self-tending jibs
 
On 10 Jan 2004 10:29:18 -0800, (N1EE) wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages
of a self-tending jib?

What rig design makes these most effective?

Do you know of any production sloops
designed with a self tending jib?

Bart Senior


No personal experience but I've heard they are an easy way to get a
broken leg.
Mark E. Williams

Horvath January 11th 04 01:22 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
On 10 Jan 2004 10:29:18 -0800, (N1EE) wrote
this crap:

What are the advantages and disadvantages
of a self-tending jib?

What rig design makes these most effective?

Do you know of any production sloops
designed with a self tending jib?


One person at my yacht club has a Freedom 35 with a self-tacking jib.




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Bobsprit January 11th 04 03:22 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
One person at my yacht club has a Freedom 35 with a self-tacking jib.



Donal and Scotty are also self tacky.

RB

Marc January 11th 04 03:39 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
You"ve sailed a self tender, how did you like it?

On 11 Jan 2004 15:22:07 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

One person at my yacht club has a Freedom 35 with a self-tacking jib.



Donal and Scotty are also self tacky.

RB



Thom Stewart January 11th 04 03:54 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
Bart,

I can't say for sure but I've heard from a pretty good authority that
Susan has "Nutsy" rigged with a "Production Self-tendind "Bib"

Ole Thom


N1EE January 11th 04 04:48 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
Matt Colie wrote in message ...
Bart,
There are two disadvantages you don't get the performance to weather an
overlapping jig will give you and - they don't go to leeward worth a damn.


What prevents you from setting a spinnaker when sailing to leeward?
Either a runner or asym?


The obvious advantage is that you can come about without any commotion.


Not just once, but short tacking becomes a breeze. Imagine fighting
headwinds
and current in a channel where you need to tack often! A self tending
jib would be a breeze while tacking a jib would rapidly wear you out.

If a young man happens to have barrowed someones knock about (sloop
without bowsprit) to spend some quiet time with a young lady. It allows
a lot of sailing time without much distraction caused by the rig.


True. It leaves your hands free for other things.


A wonderful way to have an evening on Fishers Island Sound but you
better be real close to the mooring when the nine o'clock calm drops on you.

All the boats I have know to have a selftending jib were fractional
sloops or ketch. It never made sense to me that some of the long boom
boats had runniong backs and a club-foot jib.

I haven't seen a boat built with a jib boom and traveler in several
decades (other than two reproductions).


There is no requirement for a jib boom. I don't like them except as
staysails.

Bart Senior

N1EE January 11th 04 04:51 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
"Donal" wrote

"N1EE" wrote


What are the advantages and disadvantages
of a self-tending jib?


Are you referring to self-tacking jobs?


Right


What rig design makes these most effective?


I'd assume that threy need to be fractional to work at all.

Why?


Do you know of any production sloops
designed with a self tending jib?


Dehler 41.

A very nice boat indeed. I was overtaken by one during the Round the
Island race about 4 years ago.

The only thing that I don't like about the current Dehlers is the enormous
steering wheel. I worry about what would happen in an emergency if there
were only two people aboard.


It should be easy for oe person to steer it.

Bart Senior

N1EE January 11th 04 04:56 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote

On 10 Jan 2004 10:29:18 -0800, (N1EE) wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages
of a self-tending jib?

What rig design makes these most effective?

Do you know of any production sloops
designed with a self tending jib?

Bart Senior


No personal experience but I've heard they are an easy way to get a
broken leg.
Mark E. Williams


I sailed many times on a 38' Swedish designed boat with a self tending
jib, no jib-boom, and it was fast in the light air nighttime wind of
San Francisco. It would move on a breath of wind.

In heavy air it won the double handed Farralone Race many years ago.
It won for three reasons, it was easy to tack upwind, and the owner
and his son, carried the spinnaker all the way back in 35 knots of
wind, and the boat didn't break.

I loved the boat and if it had more headroom, I would have bought one.

Bart Senior

Jonathan Ganz January 11th 04 07:34 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
Are you an idiot or what?

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jan 2004 10:29:18 -0800, (N1EE) wrote
this crap:

What are the advantages and disadvantages
of a self-tending jib?

What rig design makes these most effective?

Do you know of any production sloops
designed with a self tending jib?


One person at my yacht club has a Freedom 35 with a self-tacking jib.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe




Capt.American January 11th 04 08:31 PM

Self-tending jibs
 
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
What are the advantages and disadvantages
of a self-tending jib?


Are you referring to self-tacking jobs?


What rig design makes these most effective?


I'd assume that threy need to be fractional to work at all.



Do you know of any production sloops
designed with a self tending jib?


Dehler 41.

A very nice boat indeed. I was overtaken by one during the Round the
Island race about 4 years ago.


Hahahahaha~ bets that happens often on your boat.

The only thing that I don't like about the current Dehlers is the enormous
steering wheel. I worry about what would happen in an emergency if there
were only two people aboard.


What! What does the size of the wheel have to do with 2 people?. Are
you like a keystone cops?. Do you run into your wheel in excitement?

Sailing tip for Donal:
If you move you hand towards the center of the steering wheel(Helm)
and use the spokes you can steer faster.


Cheerios! Tally hhoooooooo~~~ pop pop

CA






Regards


Donal
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