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Good answers.
Here is the method I use to heave a line. I make two coils and throw both coils underhanded on my dominant side--heaving them at an angle of about 45 degrees. I toss the coil with the bitter end first (dominant hand) and throw second coil with my other hand a spilt second later. Both arms swing and release on the same side. You can experiment to find the right number of coils to maximize your throw. With a little practice you will find your accuracy is astounding. I start with a new coil and split it into two sections, and then cock each wrist 45 degrees and hold my wrists loosely touching each other at about a 90 degree angle, and start swinging. With you wrists angled like this, swing the two coils back and forth several times to study the line while it is swinging to make the motion smooth--ensuring the coils are neat and free from fouling. On the third swing I release the dominant hand, and when then non-dominant hand when it is fully extended. If the coils don't look good, I stop, re-coil the line and try again. It is important the coils be as neat as possible so they can unroll smoothly. I've never measured my best line throwing distance using this method. However, I've never seen anyone that can beat me using this technique. Having long arms give me an edge over most people. I have seen people practicing this at the docks, and while make the toss, forgeting to make off the bitter end--tossing all the line in the harbor, spending the next 20 minutes with an extended boat hook trying recover it. grin There is no need to put a weight or knot on the end or a need to wetting down the end. Why? Because with this method you can pitch a line such that if done on land it will lay full length on the ground in nearly straight line away from you. There are four reasons not to put anything at the bitter end of a heavier line. First, there is the danger of hitting and injuring your receiver. Second, it is easier to catch. Third, the line can immediately be cleated off. And fourth, the line won't foul as easily, and if it does, it will be easier to clear any snags. I tend to overshoot--preferring to throw too long rather than short. I have to remember not to show off and toss it too far--which I've been known to do. Finally, if heaving a line to another boat, it is wise to ask them to switch to neutral gear. The one good reason for using a weight on the end is for distance, on a messenger line. A messenger line is very light with negligable mass; it can't be thrown unless there is a weight on the end. A good example: mono-filament fishing line with baseball sized sandbag or a small monkeys fist around a heavy core. A sandbag might be better than a monkey's fist, because it is easier to catch, less prone to cause injury to people or the boat. I can't say which would be better without experimenting. Has anyone tried both types of weights? The messenger, whether it is mono-filament or simply a lightweight line, is, as everyone knows, tied to heavier line, and must be strong enough to haul the heavier line across the distance without breaking. Bart Senior MC wrote You can also wet the throwing coil and add a figure 8 at the end for more range -if time permits. Cheers MC Jonathan Ganz wrote: More of a technical answer than mine, but I got it right first. :-) "MC" wrote 2 coils, say about 20-30' in throwing hand the rest in other hand. Use an underarm throw with shoulders swinging across the direct of throw (if you see what I mean) aiming to send the rope up and out at about 45 degrees and as soon at the short coil is flying open the other hand flat to let coils slip off. The rope must be coiled correctly to prevent tangles and the coil should be in the direction that the rope is flying so that the rotation imparted to the coil by the throw causes it to unwind. (I do not think flaking the line is a good idea as it will promote tangles more than a flying wide coil). Cheers N1EE wrote: What is the best way to heave a line for maximum range? Assumptions: You are in a hurry, you do not have a line launcher, messenger line, monkey's fist or any other weight at the end of the line you want to throw. All you have is 100' of 5/8" braided line. Bart Senior |
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Is 40' a throw too far?
Cheers N1EE wrote: Good answers. Here is the method I use to heave a line. I make two coils and throw both coils underhanded on my dominant side--heaving them at an angle of about 45 degrees. I toss the coil with the bitter end first (dominant hand) and throw second coil with my other hand a spilt second later. Both arms swing and release on the same side. You can experiment to find the right number of coils to maximize your throw. With a little practice you will find your accuracy is astounding. I start with a new coil and split it into two sections, and then cock each wrist 45 degrees and hold my wrists loosely touching each other at about a 90 degree angle, and start swinging. With you wrists angled like this, swing the two coils back and forth several times to study the line while it is swinging to make the motion smooth--ensuring the coils are neat and free from fouling. On the third swing I release the dominant hand, and when then non-dominant hand when it is fully extended. If the coils don't look good, I stop, re-coil the line and try again. It is important the coils be as neat as possible so they can unroll smoothly. I've never measured my best line throwing distance using this method. However, I've never seen anyone that can beat me using this technique. Having long arms give me an edge over most people. I have seen people practicing this at the docks, and while make the toss, forgeting to make off the bitter end--tossing all the line in the harbor, spending the next 20 minutes with an extended boat hook trying recover it. grin There is no need to put a weight or knot on the end or a need to wetting down the end. Why? Because with this method you can pitch a line such that if done on land it will lay full length on the ground in nearly straight line away from you. There are four reasons not to put anything at the bitter end of a heavier line. First, there is the danger of hitting and injuring your receiver. Second, it is easier to catch. Third, the line can immediately be cleated off. And fourth, the line won't foul as easily, and if it does, it will be easier to clear any snags. I tend to overshoot--preferring to throw too long rather than short. I have to remember not to show off and toss it too far--which I've been known to do. Finally, if heaving a line to another boat, it is wise to ask them to switch to neutral gear. The one good reason for using a weight on the end is for distance, on a messenger line. A messenger line is very light with negligable mass; it can't be thrown unless there is a weight on the end. A good example: mono-filament fishing line with baseball sized sandbag or a small monkeys fist around a heavy core. A sandbag might be better than a monkey's fist, because it is easier to catch, less prone to cause injury to people or the boat. I can't say which would be better without experimenting. Has anyone tried both types of weights? The messenger, whether it is mono-filament or simply a lightweight line, is, as everyone knows, tied to heavier line, and must be strong enough to haul the heavier line across the distance without breaking. Bart Senior MC wrote You can also wet the throwing coil and add a figure 8 at the end for more range -if time permits. Cheers MC Jonathan Ganz wrote: More of a technical answer than mine, but I got it right first. :-) "MC" wrote 2 coils, say about 20-30' in throwing hand the rest in other hand. Use an underarm throw with shoulders swinging across the direct of throw (if you see what I mean) aiming to send the rope up and out at about 45 degrees and as soon at the short coil is flying open the other hand flat to let coils slip off. The rope must be coiled correctly to prevent tangles and the coil should be in the direction that the rope is flying so that the rotation imparted to the coil by the throw causes it to unwind. (I do not think flaking the line is a good idea as it will promote tangles more than a flying wide coil). Cheers N1EE wrote: What is the best way to heave a line for maximum range? Assumptions: You are in a hurry, you do not have a line launcher, messenger line, monkey's fist or any other weight at the end of the line you want to throw. All you have is 100' of 5/8" braided line. Bart Senior |
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