"DSK" wrote in message

N1EE wrote:

What's the best cotter pin type to secure
a turnbuckle?

I like to use an oversized ring type cotter pin. They still have to be
taped over (it's a commonly heard myth that cotter rings won't snag
lines) but they are easier to use and have longer useful life. Some
people I sail with use safety-pin style cotter pins. These are fine
but I think they are more obtrusive.

Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the split
cotter pins can't.

Max

PS--Doug: Do you live in NC? If so, where? Or at least from what port do
you sail?

Maxprop wrote:


Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the split
cotter pins can't.

Depends on how desperate you are. Adrenalin can do amazing things.



PS--Doug: Do you live in NC?

Yes, in fact I was born & raised in NC although I have not lived here
continuously.

If so, where?

Directly above the worlds largest deposit of red clay
Another answer is "too far inland."

Or at least from what port do
you sail?

We keep our big boat in New Bern, I see you're currently in Oriental.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Maxprop wrote:


Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the split
cotter pins can't.

Depends on how desperate you are. Adrenalin can do amazing things.



PS--Doug: Do you live in NC?

Yes, in fact I was born & raised in NC although I have not lived here
continuously.

If so, where?

Directly above the worlds largest deposit of red clay
Another answer is "too far inland."

Or at least from what port do
you sail?

We keep our big boat in New Bern, I see you're currently in Oriental.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Wish we were currently in Oriental.

We live in Indiana, actually. December was our first visit to NC, Oriental
specifically, where we bought some property on the Neuse just outside of
town.

New Bern, eh? Fascinating town. Capt. Ratty's is a favorite--had the best
mussels I've ever eaten there. The server was amused by Midwesterners
raving about seafood which is as common as dirt there.

Max

Why would you not carry a simple tool to do that?

I don't recommend rings. They *do* snag lines and when
they do, they're apt to get pulled out enough to finally
finish the job on their own. Straight cotter pins if put in
correctly will not come out and won't snag with or without
tape.

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"DSK" wrote in message

N1EE wrote:

What's the best cotter pin type to secure
a turnbuckle?

I like to use an oversized ring type cotter pin. They still have to be
taped over (it's a commonly heard myth that cotter rings won't snag
lines) but they are easier to use and have longer useful life. Some
people I sail with use safety-pin style cotter pins. These are fine
but I think they are more obtrusive.

Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the split
cotter pins can't.

Max

PS--Doug: Do you live in NC? If so, where? Or at least from what port
do
you sail?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Why would you not carry a simple tool to do that?

See other posts. I've grown tired of needlessly dropping tools overboard.
Rings are cheap.

I don't recommend rings. They *do* snag lines and when
they do, they're apt to get pulled out enough to finally
finish the job on their own.

Not if you tape them, same as with pins.

Straight cotter pins if put in
correctly will not come out and won't snag with or without
tape.

Um, where are your turnbuckles? On the house roof? Experience: when the
tape chafes through, the bent-over pin ends begin snagging sheets again,
just as they would have done had they not been wrapped. No problem so far
with rings.

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message

N1EE wrote:

What's the best cotter pin type to secure
a turnbuckle?

I like to use an oversized ring type cotter pin. They still have to be
taped over (it's a commonly heard myth that cotter rings won't snag
lines) but they are easier to use and have longer useful life. Some
people I sail with use safety-pin style cotter pins. These are fine
but I think they are more obtrusive.

Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the split
cotter pins can't.

Max

PS--Doug: Do you live in NC? If so, where? Or at least from what port
do
you sail?

Put it on a lanyard before you use it. I lost one screw driver and a drill
bit over the side. Everything else was tied on before I started.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Why would you not carry a simple tool to do that?

See other posts. I've grown tired of needlessly dropping tools overboard.
Rings are cheap.

I don't recommend rings. They *do* snag lines and when
they do, they're apt to get pulled out enough to finally
finish the job on their own.

Not if you tape them, same as with pins.

Straight cotter pins if put in
correctly will not come out and won't snag with or without
tape.

Um, where are your turnbuckles? On the house roof? Experience: when the
tape chafes through, the bent-over pin ends begin snagging sheets again,
just as they would have done had they not been wrapped. No problem so far
with rings.

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message

N1EE wrote:

What's the best cotter pin type to secure
a turnbuckle?

I like to use an oversized ring type cotter pin. They still have to
be
taped over (it's a commonly heard myth that cotter rings won't snag
lines) but they are easier to use and have longer useful life. Some
people I sail with use safety-pin style cotter pins. These are fine
but I think they are more obtrusive.

Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the
split
cotter pins can't.

Max

PS--Doug: Do you live in NC? If so, where? Or at least from what
port
do
you sail?

Ties on drill bits auto whip.

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Put it on a lanyard before you use it. I lost one screw driver and a drill
bit over the side. Everything else was tied on before I started.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message



Why would you not carry a simple tool to do that?

See other posts. I've grown tired of needlessly dropping tools overboard.
Rings are cheap.


I don't recommend rings. They *do* snag lines and when
they do, they're apt to get pulled out enough to finally
finish the job on their own.

Not if you tape them, same as with pins.


Straight cotter pins if put in
correctly will not come out and won't snag with or without
tape.

Um, where are your turnbuckles? On the house roof? Experience: when the
tape chafes through, the bent-over pin ends begin snagging sheets again,
just as they would have done had they not been wrapped. No problem so far
with rings.

Max


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"DSK" wrote in message


N1EE wrote:


What's the best cotter pin type to secure
a turnbuckle?

I like to use an oversized ring type cotter pin. They still have to

be

taped over (it's a commonly heard myth that cotter rings won't snag
lines) but they are easier to use and have longer useful life. Some
people I sail with use safety-pin style cotter pins. These are fine
but I think they are more obtrusive.

Agreed. Rings can be placed or removed without tools, whereas the

split

cotter pins can't.

Max

PS--Doug: Do you live in NC? If so, where? Or at least from what

port

do

you sail?

Maxprop wrote:


See other posts. I've grown tired of needlessly dropping tools overboard.
Rings are cheap.


Perhaps you should attach your tool to soemthing. It's a good idea for
heavy weather and a requirement for the bolt cutters...

Cheers

"MC" wrote in message
Maxprop wrote:


See other posts. I've grown tired of needlessly dropping tools
overboard.
Rings are cheap.

Perhaps you should attach your tool to soemthing.

Um, I'm not gonna go there . . .

It's a good idea for
heavy weather and a requirement for the bolt cutters...

I've been drilling holes in the distal ends of the handles/grips of many of
my more valued tools for this reason. Oddly enough, a large stainless
cotter ring through the hole in the handle works perfectly for attaching a
lanyard with a small snap hook at the end. Good for working aloft as well.
Crew was getting ****ed at being bombed by tools from the masthead.

Max

You sound like a real klutz.


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"MC" wrote in message
Maxprop wrote:


See other posts. I've grown tired of needlessly dropping tools
overboard.
Rings are cheap.

Perhaps you should attach your tool to soemthing.

Um, I'm not gonna go there . . .

It's a good idea for
heavy weather and a requirement for the bolt cutters...

I've been drilling holes in the distal ends of the handles/grips of many
of
my more valued tools for this reason. Oddly enough, a large stainless
cotter ring through the hole in the handle works perfectly for attaching a
lanyard with a small snap hook at the end. Good for working aloft as
well.
Crew was getting ****ed at being bombed by tools from the masthead.

Max