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"katysails" wrote in message ...
Joe complained: screw tape always wears out unravels rotts fades That's why you're supposed to perform regular MAINTENANCE..so you catch these things before they happen. I'd rather do it right the first time, thank you very much. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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They will work themselves out if the tape comes off and if a line gets
snagged and gets them to the inner ring (for lack of a better term for it). I've seen it happen. If the straight cotter is done properly, there is no way you're going to gouge yourself on it. Also, it will have tape, just like the ring. "katysails" wrote in message ... We use ring and tape. too. Aside from the fact that the rings don't work themselves out or snap off, you also don't get gouged in the ankle by a bent over cotter pin on the way by. BTW, bobbypins can be used as SHORT TERM emergency voter pins if you're in a real crunch...just remember to replace them...they rust through very quickly and won't take a lot of load for a lonmg period of time. They are stronger than paperclips, though. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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I'll go out on a limb ... Why do they need securing?
I'm really not advocating this, but ... When I bought my current boat I went to the factory for a week of acceptance tests, commissioning, etc. The boat was all rigged for us, but there were no cotter pins installed. They explained that as soon as we left, the mast would be pulled for the delivery down the Erie Canal, and there was no need to install the cotter pins for just a few day sails. I was skeptical, and checked every turnbuckle morning, noon, and night but of course, there was no movement at all. I've also wondered if both ends of the turnbuckle need a pin - for it to turn, the stay must twist. I hard to see how it could loosen more than a quarter turn. As I say, I'm not advocating never using pins, and all of my stay have split pins, but I'm not sure losing one pin is an immediate crisis. On the other hand, as an ex-dinghy sailor whose boats were rigged with clevis and ring pins, I can say its rather unnerving to find a ring-ding in the bilge! "N1EE" wrote in message om... What's the best cotter pin type to secure a turnbuckle? Bart Senior |
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How does one tell if a stay is twisted while the turnbuckle is still
attached? SV "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... I'll go out on a limb ... Why do they need securing? I'm really not advocating this, but ... When I bought my current boat I went to the factory for a week of acceptance tests, commissioning, etc. The boat was all rigged for us, but there were no cotter pins installed. They explained that as soon as we left, the mast would be pulled for the delivery down the Erie Canal, and there was no need to install the cotter pins for just a few day sails. I was skeptical, and checked every turnbuckle morning, noon, and night but of course, there was no movement at all. I've also wondered if both ends of the turnbuckle need a pin - for it to turn, the stay must twist. I hard to see how it could loosen more than a quarter turn. As I say, I'm not advocating never using pins, and all of my stay have split pins, but I'm not sure losing one pin is an immediate crisis. On the other hand, as an ex-dinghy sailor whose boats were rigged with clevis and ring pins, I can say its rather unnerving to find a ring-ding in the bilge! "N1EE" wrote in message om... What's the best cotter pin type to secure a turnbuckle? Bart Senior |
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I don't know - I've never seen any evidence that a turnbuckle has loosened, at
least not a larger boat with open turnbuckles and some tension on the stays. On smaller boats, I have seen them rattle open, and I've even the wire unlay a bit, but that was on a club boat that raised and lowered the mast frequently, and was generally mis-treated. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... How does one tell if a stay is twisted while the turnbuckle is still attached? SV "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... I'll go out on a limb ... Why do they need securing? I'm really not advocating this, but ... When I bought my current boat I went to the factory for a week of acceptance tests, commissioning, etc. The boat was all rigged for us, but there were no cotter pins installed. They explained that as soon as we left, the mast would be pulled for the delivery down the Erie Canal, and there was no need to install the cotter pins for just a few day sails. I was skeptical, and checked every turnbuckle morning, noon, and night but of course, there was no movement at all. I've also wondered if both ends of the turnbuckle need a pin - for it to turn, the stay must twist. I hard to see how it could loosen more than a quarter turn. As I say, I'm not advocating never using pins, and all of my stay have split pins, but I'm not sure losing one pin is an immediate crisis. On the other hand, as an ex-dinghy sailor whose boats were rigged with clevis and ring pins, I can say its rather unnerving to find a ring-ding in the bilge! "N1EE" wrote in message om... What's the best cotter pin type to secure a turnbuckle? Bart Senior |
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Oops, I wanted to start a new thread!
(N1EE) wrote What's the best cotter pin type to secure a turnbuckle? Bart Senior |
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