"otnmbrd" wrote in message

| I would describe it as .... many know the words to the rules but have a
| problem with the intent.

So seemingly you are inferring that no one but you has a grasp on the intent
of the COLREGS???
Crap.... I thought it was to keep boats from hitting each other. Are you
implying that everyone but commercial large vessel traffic should be subject
to the strictest definitions of the rules?


| I find most of these threads a valuable tool for defining intent and
| giving perspective from different operators and vessel types.

Well you know my views.... large commercial vessels should be strictly
regulated, the regulations should be enforced with an iron fist. You whine
about smaller vessels not adhering to the rules while dumping bilge water
and oil as well as being the biggest contributor of garbage dumped at
sea.... not to mention the sorry record for container loss. Unmanned
bridges, unseaworthy vessels and poorly trained foreign crews are the least
of the problems caused by the current status of the shipping industry at
sea.

How dare you even begin to preach rules and comprehension when your industry
so consistently fails to abide by rules you claim to have a better
understanding of!!

| However, after a point............

Yeah... after a point it becomes clear that you fail to comprehend the
basics. It's NOT Your Ocean! You only use it just like we do. You don't have
more of a right nor less of a responsibility. I would say that on a whole
the smaller vessels have a better comprehension of their responsibilities
and a better track record of adherence to the regulations imposed!......

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:qgzQb.3340
I would say that on a whole
the smaller vessels have a better comprehension of their responsibilities
and a better track record of adherence to the regulations imposed!......

You crack me up, Mooron!

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:qgzQb.3340
| I would say that on a whole
| the smaller vessels have a better comprehension of their
responsibilities
| and a better track record of adherence to the regulations imposed!......
|
| You crack me up, Mooron!

Ha Ha Ha.....

Seriously Jeff.... not all sailboats flaunt the regs like the large
commercial vessels do... nor with the overwhelming regularity of their
offences. We are under a much more policed and enforced platform.

CM

I'll concede that when a big ship screws up it can make a real mess, but in my
travels I've observed rather few instances of commercial violations. On the
other hand, I've observed that recreational boaters are very self-righteous
about the regs they chose to observe, while they blatantly ignore others.

A case in point: In Key West we stayed for several days at a luxury marina/time
share hotel. The majority of the boats were live aboard, and most never moved
from their slip. When I asked people what they did for a pumpout, they all said
they never use their head; they go up to the hotel (wink, wink)! We then moved
over to a different marina where we were located near the fuel dock and pumpout
hose. Invariably, when the commercial boats came to tank up, they also pumped
out. However, I hardly ever saw the recreation boaters pump.

Another issue: I've hardly ever felt at risk from a commercial boat - more
often I find them altering course to avoid me when several miles away (perhaps
my fame has spread?). Sportfishermen, however, are so obnoxious that its rare
that an day passes without getting buzzed by some monster doing 40 knots with
seemingly no one on the bridge.



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:qgzQb.3340
| I would say that on a whole
| the smaller vessels have a better comprehension of their
responsibilities
| and a better track record of adherence to the regulations imposed!......
|
| You crack me up, Mooron!

Ha Ha Ha.....

Seriously Jeff.... not all sailboats flaunt the regs like the large
commercial vessels do... nor with the overwhelming regularity of their
offences. We are under a much more policed and enforced platform.

CM

In retrospect Jeff.... I'll have to concur with your position regarding
obnoxious American boaters. These scofflaws will be the reason that very
soon everyone in the USA who desires to partake in boating of any kind will
have to have a boating license, with mandatory insurance and strict
enforcement by a large marine police force.... paid for by a new tax
imposed on the entire boating community.

I'm glad we don't have that type of irresponsible attitude here in Canada.
Then again we already have a mandatory Vessel Operators Card requirement and
very stiff fines for even minor infractions. A half liter of oil
accidentally spilled can cost you 10K in fines and HAZMAT Response costs.

Nope,,,, up here it's those damn commercial behemoths that are the primary
culprits in environmental terrorism.

CM


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| I'll concede that when a big ship screws up it can make a real mess, but
in my
| travels I've observed rather few instances of commercial violations. On
the
| other hand, I've observed that recreational boaters are very
self-righteous
| about the regs they chose to observe, while they blatantly ignore others.
|
| A case in point: In Key West we stayed for several days at a luxury
marina/time
| share hotel. The majority of the boats were live aboard, and most never
moved
| from their slip. When I asked people what they did for a pumpout, they
all said
| they never use their head; they go up to the hotel (wink, wink)! We then
moved
| over to a different marina where we were located near the fuel dock and
pumpout
| hose. Invariably, when the commercial boats came to tank up, they also
pumped
| out. However, I hardly ever saw the recreation boaters pump.
|
| Another issue: I've hardly ever felt at risk from a commercial boat -
more
| often I find them altering course to avoid me when several miles away
(perhaps
| my fame has spread?). Sportfishermen, however, are so obnoxious that its
rare
| that an day passes without getting buzzed by some monster doing 40 knots
with
| seemingly no one on the bridge.
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Jeff Morris" wrote in message
| ...
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:qgzQb.3340
| | I would say that on a whole
| | the smaller vessels have a better comprehension of their
| responsibilities
| | and a better track record of adherence to the regulations
imposed!......
| |
| | You crack me up, Mooron!
|
| Ha Ha Ha.....
|
| Seriously Jeff.... not all sailboats flaunt the regs like the large
| commercial vessels do... nor with the overwhelming regularity of their
| offences. We are under a much more policed and enforced platform.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message

| I would describe it as .... many know the words to the rules but have a
| problem with the intent.

So seemingly you are inferring that no one but you has a grasp on the intent
of the COLREGS???
Crap.... I thought it was to keep boats from hitting each other. Are you
implying that everyone but commercial large vessel traffic should be subject
to the strictest definitions of the rules?


| I find most of these threads a valuable tool for defining intent and
| giving perspective from different operators and vessel types.

Well you know my views.... large commercial vessels should be strictly
regulated, the regulations should be enforced with an iron fist. You whine
about smaller vessels not adhering to the rules while dumping bilge water
and oil as well as being the biggest contributor of garbage dumped at
sea.... not to mention the sorry record for container loss. Unmanned
bridges, unseaworthy vessels and poorly trained foreign crews are the least
of the problems caused by the current status of the shipping industry at
sea.

How dare you even begin to preach rules and comprehension when your industry
so consistently fails to abide by rules you claim to have a better
understanding of!!

| However, after a point............

Yeah... after a point it becomes clear that you fail to comprehend the
basics. It's NOT Your Ocean! You only use it just like we do. You don't have
more of a right nor less of a responsibility. I would say that on a whole
the smaller vessels have a better comprehension of their responsibilities
and a better track record of adherence to the regulations imposed!......

CM





ROFLMAO

Welcome back

otn

"otnmbrd" wrote in message

| ROFLMAO
|
| Welcome back
|
| otn

Thanx dude! ;-)

CM