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The Carrolls December 1st 03 12:40 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
So you are saying Morgan didn't create good designs?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
There is no best Catalina design. In order to have
a best designer one must have a vessel designed
by a reputable naval architect such as Wm. Tripp,
Jim Jackett, Halsey Herschoff, etc.

Who even knows who designs the Catalinas other
than some dufuss at Morgan Yacht?

S.Simon


"N1EE" wrote in message

om...
What's the best Catalina design?






katysails December 1st 03 01:13 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
Who even knows who designs the Catalinas other
than some dufuss at Morgan Yacht?


Spoken by the man that worked the Irwin assembly line....

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


DSK December 1st 03 02:43 PM

Best Catalina design?
 
N1EE wrote:

What's the best Catalina design?


The Capri 37. Not very roomy for it's length but
they're not expensive and they sail great. Very
good looking boat too IMHO.

I wouldn't disagree that the Catalina 22 is one of
the great designs, if allowances are made for era.
In it's day it was the best trailerable cruiser,
but now I think there are dozens of better boats.

If your criteria are cruisability and cost, then
the Catalina 30 should be considered. Not to take
around Cape Horn, of course.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Simple Simon December 1st 03 06:03 PM

Best Catalina design?
 
Poor old Charlie never designed anything of note.

A few of his older designs had a virtue or two but,
overall, Charlie Morgan isn't listed among the respected
naval architects.

S.Simon


"The Carrolls" wrote in message ...
So you are saying Morgan didn't create good designs?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
There is no best Catalina design. In order to have
a best designer one must have a vessel designed
by a reputable naval architect such as Wm. Tripp,
Jim Jackett, Halsey Herschoff, etc.

Who even knows who designs the Catalinas other
than some dufuss at Morgan Yacht?

S.Simon


"N1EE" wrote in message

om...
What's the best Catalina design?








N1EE December 2nd 03 03:35 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
I like the Catalina 30 too. I was very
impressed with the amount of space it had.
It is a nice little cruiser.

I've seen the Catalina 36 from the outside
and I love the way it looks, but I never
sailed one. They tend to be expensive.

I've sailed the Capri 22 and loved it, but
it was way over canvased for SF bay. I
recommended they cut two feet off the boom.
Later someone had the sense to put cut
used Rhodes 18 mains and that helped.

Tell us more about the Capri 37. If it is
like the Capri 22 I bet I'd love it.

What do they sell for?

Bart

DSK wrote

N1EE wrote:

What's the best Catalina design?


The Capri 37. Not very roomy for it's length but
they're not expensive and they sail great. Very
good looking boat too IMHO.

I wouldn't disagree that the Catalina 22 is one of
the great designs, if allowances are made for era.
In it's day it was the best trailerable cruiser,
but now I think there are dozens of better boats.

If your criteria are cruisability and cost, then
the Catalina 30 should be considered. Not to take
around Cape Horn, of course.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


N1EE December 2nd 03 03:46 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
Doug, That was worth 5 pts.

I researched the boat. It rates between
72 and 75. Those are fabulous numbers,
and it is a fabulous looking boat. Thanks
for bringing it into the discussion.

http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...4&fno=20&bts=T

Bart

DSK wrote

N1EE wrote:

What's the best Catalina design?


The Capri 37. Not very roomy for it's length but
they're not expensive and they sail great. Very
good looking boat too IMHO.


katysails December 2nd 03 03:56 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
I've seen the Catalina 36 from the outside
and I love the way it looks, but I never
sailed one

Greyhound bus with sails....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Jonathan Ganz December 2nd 03 05:43 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
A very good friend owned a 30. He loved it. It sailed
quite nicely. I've sailed dozens of time on a 36 in the
bay. Works great single reefed and 100% jib.

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
I like the Catalina 30 too. I was very
impressed with the amount of space it had.
It is a nice little cruiser.

I've seen the Catalina 36 from the outside
and I love the way it looks, but I never
sailed one. They tend to be expensive.

I've sailed the Capri 22 and loved it, but
it was way over canvased for SF bay. I
recommended they cut two feet off the boom.
Later someone had the sense to put cut
used Rhodes 18 mains and that helped.

Tell us more about the Capri 37. If it is
like the Capri 22 I bet I'd love it.

What do they sell for?

Bart

DSK wrote

N1EE wrote:

What's the best Catalina design?


The Capri 37. Not very roomy for it's length but
they're not expensive and they sail great. Very
good looking boat too IMHO.

I wouldn't disagree that the Catalina 22 is one of
the great designs, if allowances are made for era.
In it's day it was the best trailerable cruiser,
but now I think there are dozens of better boats.

If your criteria are cruisability and cost, then
the Catalina 30 should be considered. Not to take
around Cape Horn, of course.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Bobsprit December 2nd 03 11:25 AM

Best Catalina design?
 
I've seen the Catalina 36 from the outside
and I love the way it looks, but I never
sailed one

Greyhound bus with sails....

The 36 does everything well. Good sailing boat with reasonable speed, lots of
room and pleasing to look at. The worst thing you can say about it (or most
Catalinas) is that it's so successful that there's too many of them.

RB

DSK December 2nd 03 03:14 PM

Best Catalina design?
 
N1EE wrote:

Doug, That was worth 5 pts.

I researched the boat. It rates between
72 and 75. Those are fabulous numbers,
and it is a fabulous looking boat. Thanks
for bringing it into the discussion.


I haven't sailed one, but apparently some of the people who have weren't horribly
impressed.

http://old.cruisingworld.com/forums/...x.pl?read=6861

I can't believe a J35 would outsail one very often or by very much, but then the
Express 37 and the Schock 35 are both pretty fast boats with real cabins. A Mumm 36
would leave it in the dust. They all cost more too. The Capri 37 is pretty much a
big daysailor, but it would be possible to use some amenities in the cabin. It's a
Grand Prix styled boat but it's really not Grand Prix fast... but watching them
sail in the Congressional Cup and some of the other events that use them, they look
like a lot of fun to sail.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




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