Capetanios Oz wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:30:35 -0600, "Lady Pilot" wrote:

That's bull****, Ozzy. Preflight for a small aircraft is at neutral,
then
you trim accordingly at take-off. If it goes the opposite way, any pilot
who flies "by the seat of his pants" would know not to keep trimming the
damn aircraft all the way to the ground. Was the your son, flight
student?

Would you trim the sails for the opposite direction and not figure out
what
is wrong? Pretty much the same thing to me...

LP


Sorry LP, but that's that way it was recounted to me.

I'm not saying anything about your account of the mishap. I was refering to
the pilot in question. Comments interspered.

I believe they thought something else was going on, getting
progresively worse and were attempting to trim as elevator was all
used up.

See my comments on the next post.

Fortunately, thay kept thinking and DID figure out what was wrong.
He actually has the story somewhere on the net, I'll see if I can find
it.

Yes, I think your friend Bill saved Dave's life. But Dave should have known
better...

Oh and my son is a student, got his Class1 the other day and will go
full time ATP next year, CIR twin.

Congrats on your son. I'm not quite sure how to translate a Class 1 with a
Private License. It seems that Europe, Canada, and Australia are "governed"
by IACO. In other words, when we in the US get a private license, we don't
have to get the night endorsement that you guys do. There are many other
international rules that govern these kind of things.

Maybe you could confirm with Bertie? ;-)

Flying a Warrior II at the moment and will eventually work up to the
schools Duchess. Next step is onto their Citation II but that's a long
way off.

Sounds like a lot of money for ratings....you were right, your son is very
smart!

LOL!

LP (all in fun)