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Simple Simon November 13th 03 09:33 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
What a big cry baby you are, Booby! I remember
Ganz's particulars were posted years ago and even
he did not whine and cry like you do.

Posting a link is perfectly acceptable behavior.
The information is public information. You allow
it to be so when you document your vessel. If you
don't want the information public then don't
document. The only reason you documented in the
first place was an ego thing. You got what you
deserved. If you don't shut up I'll post yours
and your wife's social security number and
credit card numbers. That information is also
easy to come by.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I never once said that you did. I said you have posted lots of
personal information, and even invited people to look up your
documentation.

Nothing you say will change the fact that YOU posted someone's address here. I
know you want to think that there's nothing wrong with that. Of course anyone
can be found with a little research and a few clicks, but posting it to a
newsgroup is simply not done. It's a crappy thing to do. I've met four people
from this group in person. I've kept the lid on two of those meetings to keep
things lively here. Even after a couple of sails with Marc, I'd be happy to
bash him in the interest of fun.
But I wouldn't post his address, even if he ****ed me off. It's a new
newsgroup, Bill. It's not REAL. You actually don't know me at all, or most of
the others here. Try to remember that the next time you get angry here and
decide it's okay to post someone's address, even through a link.


RB





The_navigator© November 13th 03 09:47 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
Good luck. I hope it goes well.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Party at Bob's house tonight. If you don't know how to get there, you
can get a map and driving directions at MapQuest.com.

Hey, I won't be home. Shot is is opening tonight at the Village East and I have
to give a speech introducing the film.

Have fun!

RB



Thom Stewart November 13th 03 10:05 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
Simple,

Once again I'm sorry to say, you are wrong.

The depth has to do with the height of the HULL. When you spoke of
tonnage, you were referring to displacement. Displacement refers to the
weight of the water displaced by the HULL. The Hull is measured from the
Gunnel to the top of the keel. The tonnage has to do with displaced
water not cargo space.

It is not measured to the cabin overhead, any more than it is measure to
the height of the cockpit floor. The 5 ft Measurement is probably
correct. Superstructure doesn't count.

The measurements on the application is just another example of Coast
Guard "Gobble-de-Gook" The CG acts like it is their duty to make
anything simple a subject to a complicated interruption.

AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom


Simple Simon November 13th 03 10:27 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
You are misinformed. Documentation looks at tonnage
and tonnage is a measure of volume and has little
to do with displacement.

Allow me to quote an authority - Eric Hiscock from his
fine book, "Cruising Under Sail".

"Depth is an internal measurement taken from the underside
of the deck amidships to the top of the main keel."

"Tonnage is found by calculating the capacity of the hull
and then making certain deductions for engine space,
stores, chartroom, etc."

In other words, tonnage, when documenting a vessel, is
a figure that represents internal volume and ability
to haul cargo therein. This type of tonnage actually
is derived from the word 'tun', which is a cask used in the
wine trade and the size of a ship used to be judged by the
number of tuns that could be stowed in the holds.

I'm surprised an old salt like you is so ignorant when
it comes to documented tonnage.

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Simple,

Once again I'm sorry to say, you are wrong.

The depth has to do with the height of the HULL. When you spoke of
tonnage, you were referring to displacement. Displacement refers to the
weight of the water displaced by the HULL. The Hull is measured from the
Gunnel to the top of the keel. The tonnage has to do with displaced
water not cargo space.

It is not measured to the cabin overhead, any more than it is measure to
the height of the cockpit floor. The 5 ft Measurement is probably
correct. Superstructure doesn't count.

The measurements on the application is just another example of Coast
Guard "Gobble-de-Gook" The CG acts like it is their duty to make
anything simple a subject to a complicated interruption.

AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom




Thom Stewart November 13th 03 10:27 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
Sorry Nutsy,

Bill, made Susy's address public. Not your's. There seems to be some
dougbt that Apt #5 is a common address for the two of you.

It seems to me I remember you posting that you had a House. Are you
saying now that your house is an Apartment building in KEW GARDENS?

OT


Scott Vernon November 13th 03 10:53 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
Thanks Bill, now I know where to send that 'special package'.





wrote in message
...
On 13 Nov 2003 12:00:02 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Bobby's full name and address have appeared here many times.

Sorry, Bill. You've been busted again. I've never listed my complete

address
here.


I never once said that you did. I said you have posted lots of
personal information, and even invited people to look up your
documentation.

You busted yourself.

BB



Jonathan Ganz November 13th 03 11:05 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
That's because Bob wins at everything. I didn't even want
to try.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
What a big cry baby you are, Booby! I remember
Ganz's particulars were posted years ago and even
he did not whine and cry like you do.

Posting a link is perfectly acceptable behavior.
The information is public information. You allow
it to be so when you document your vessel. If you
don't want the information public then don't
document. The only reason you documented in the
first place was an ego thing. You got what you
deserved. If you don't shut up I'll post yours
and your wife's social security number and
credit card numbers. That information is also
easy to come by.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...
I never once said that you did. I said you have posted lots of
personal information, and even invited people to look up your
documentation.

Nothing you say will change the fact that YOU posted someone's address

here. I
know you want to think that there's nothing wrong with that. Of course

anyone
can be found with a little research and a few clicks, but posting it to

a
newsgroup is simply not done. It's a crappy thing to do. I've met four

people
from this group in person. I've kept the lid on two of those meetings to

keep
things lively here. Even after a couple of sails with Marc, I'd be happy

to
bash him in the interest of fun.
But I wouldn't post his address, even if he ****ed me off. It's a new
newsgroup, Bill. It's not REAL. You actually don't know me at all, or

most of
the others here. Try to remember that the next time you get angry here

and
decide it's okay to post someone's address, even through a link.


RB







Scott Vernon November 13th 03 11:09 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
Is this the right address?

SUZANNE L MILLER
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415

will there be hor de hors?

Scotty

wrote

Party at Bob's house tonight. If you don't know how to get there, you
can get a map and driving directions at MapQuest.com.

BB



Scott Vernon November 13th 03 11:13 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
OMG Marty, you should NOT have posted that!!!!!!!!!! Surely you'll burn in
hell now.

SV

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...

You could always do it this way:


http://www.st.nmfs.gov/pls/webpls/cg...l_id_in=942682

Friends of mine own "Rocket Dog", they sail her out of Port Townsend WA,

maybe
Thom's seen her?

Cheers
Marty



Jeff Morris November 13th 03 11:17 PM

Bobsprit has no boat!
 
A fair explanation, but your first several posts on the topic indicated you did not
understand the measurement. It was only after I posted the link to the measurement that
you started to get it close to right.

Modern measurement of tonnage does not generally measure to the coachroof, it only goes up
to the deck. Thus, a vessel with full headroom might only be listed at 5 feet. My old
Nonsuch, with generous headroom ( 6.5 feet ?) is listed as having a 5.6 foot Depth.



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
You are misinformed. Documentation looks at tonnage
and tonnage is a measure of volume and has little
to do with displacement.

Allow me to quote an authority - Eric Hiscock from his
fine book, "Cruising Under Sail".

"Depth is an internal measurement taken from the underside
of the deck amidships to the top of the main keel."

"Tonnage is found by calculating the capacity of the hull
and then making certain deductions for engine space,
stores, chartroom, etc."

In other words, tonnage, when documenting a vessel, is
a figure that represents internal volume and ability
to haul cargo therein. This type of tonnage actually
is derived from the word 'tun', which is a cask used in the
wine trade and the size of a ship used to be judged by the
number of tuns that could be stowed in the holds.

I'm surprised an old salt like you is so ignorant when
it comes to documented tonnage.

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

...
Simple,

Once again I'm sorry to say, you are wrong.

The depth has to do with the height of the HULL. When you spoke of
tonnage, you were referring to displacement. Displacement refers to the
weight of the water displaced by the HULL. The Hull is measured from the
Gunnel to the top of the keel. The tonnage has to do with displaced
water not cargo space.

It is not measured to the cabin overhead, any more than it is measure to
the height of the cockpit floor. The 5 ft Measurement is probably
correct. Superstructure doesn't count.

The measurements on the application is just another example of Coast
Guard "Gobble-de-Gook" The CG acts like it is their duty to make
anything simple a subject to a complicated interruption.

AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom







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