Clinton is a serial liar.

Bush is using the words on a habitual liar to support his actions.

RB

"two wheels" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:51:08 -0000, "Donal"
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"two wheels" wrote in
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The bravery story was true. It just wasn't true about Pfc.
Jessica
Lynch. I don't believe the military was talking specifically
about
Lynch to the reporters. The reporters just took it and ran with
it
because it made a better story. What the military didn't do soon
enough was correct the press lies.

Are you saying that the press lied?

I was under the impression that you believed everything that the
media fed
you.


Do you still think that Saddam had WMD? Or is it possible that
the media
exaggerated that issue also?


Regards


Donal

From:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...000/000/003/23
6jmcbd.asp

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological
and chemical material unaccounted for. That is, at the end of the
first Gulf War, we knew what he had. We knew what was destroyed in
all the inspection processes and that was a lot. And then we bombed
with the British for four days in 1998. We might have gotten it all;
we might have gotten half of it; we might have gotten none of it.
But we didn't know. So I thought it was prudent for the president to
go to the U.N. and for the U.N. to say you got to let these
inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty
could be regime change, not just continued sanctions."

- --Bill Clinton, July 22, 2003

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two wheels


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Bush and Ashcroft has taken away more of our liberties than Hussien has.



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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We realize full well that not actively fighting the
war against terrorism will result in far more
deaths than your numbers and right here in our cities
to boot.

Our armed forces exist for the purpose
of securing our freedom and liberties. It is
regrettable than any lives need to be lost to
the cause of freedom but without our soldiers
who are all volunteers and patriots we would
all be butchered up by any Hitler type who
happened to come along. Rather than denigrate
the sacrifice of our valiant fighting men and
women like you and Bobsprit delight in doing
you should be very thankful that they, at
least, are willing to die for preserving a way
of life that assures a future for their progeny.

If it were up to you with your stupid attitudes
we all would breaking rocks in a gulag somewhere -
that is those of us who were spared the torture
and gas chambers.

You need to read some history. You need
to grow up. Your pacifism is the road to
slavery, torture and death. It's all in the
history books. Never once will you read
of any tyrant or butcher Hitler wannabe
doing anything but enslaving and butchering
those they hate. In the case of these Islamic
extremists this includes EVERYONE who is
not an Islamic extremist. Are you really
so stupid that you don't understand reality?

S.Simon




"Donal" wrote in message
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The Captains Nemesis wrote in message
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Seems to me that another 6 months would have revealed that Sadam was
hiding NOTHING, and a whole bunch of American lives would have been
saved PLUS those of Iraqi citizens....you know, the human beings that
don't rate a mention as casualties of the US invasion.


30 American soldiers died in Iraq this week.

At this rate, 3000 American soldiers will die in Iraq in the next two
years.

How many American civilians died on 9/11?

Bush seems to be getting revenge. "An eye for an eye - and a life for
a
life." I wonder if he is bright enough to realise that American
soldiers'
lives are not really suitable recompense for American civilian lives?
I
wonder if the voters actually care? Neal and Two wheels don't seem to
give
a s*it. They seem to derive some strange sense of superiority,or
victory,
from the fact that more Iraqis are dying than GI's.



Regards


Donal
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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The Captains Nemesis wrote in message

| Seems to me that another 6 months would have revealed that Sadam was
| hiding NOTHING, and a whole bunch of American lives would have been
| saved PLUS those of Iraqi citizens....you know, the human beings that
| don't rate a mention as casualties of the US invasion.

Seems to me that the USA has been willing to put more than words on the
table... that's historical fact. Get used to the idea that that the
Freedom
you enjoy is being paid on the front lines by Honorable Warriors! When
you
defame those lost in battle you seem to imply they should be held
accountable for their General's strategy.
.... don't you dare question the value of those who stand the line and
face
the foe.

Those selfsame people who you wail injustice about would not render you
likewise... understand this!

Fish or Cut Bait......... Lead, Follow or Get the **** Out of the Way!

Let's settle this once and for all... I know who's side I'm on!

Pick a Side!


Ahhhh AHA!

It isn't about picking sides. It IS about Right and Wrong.


Saddam was an evil dictator. He used his position to murder thousands of
innocent people. Nobody disputes these facts. However, there is an
international acceptance of the fact that only a "clear and imminent danger"
is a good excuse for war.


Bush tried to tell us that Saddam had WMD that were ready for deployment in
45 minutes. That was a lie.


There was NO "Clear and imminent" danger.


Don't you find it strange that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, are all going to
make millions out if the war in Iraq?


Regards


Donal
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Bush tried to tell us that Saddam had WMD that were ready for deployment in
45 minutes. That was a lie.


BUSH LIED. He lied to Americans and he lied to the World. Now he's off begging
for international support and not getting it. He's turned a fine country into a
laughing stock. He's unable to put together a coherent sentence...and that's a
fact! This is no leader, no compelling force of personality. He's a lump, as
was his father. Sadly, he's not benign. He's dangerous, deadly to us all. He's
feeding terrorists exactly what they need, fueling them.

RB

More hatred of the President displayed by the same, old
tired liberal rhetoric. Sad, really sad. Liberals have no
agenda but to tear down the foundations of America.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
BUSH LIED. He lied to Americans and he lied to the World. Now he's off begging
for international support and not getting it. He's turned a fine country into a
laughing stock. He's unable to put together a coherent sentence...and that's a
fact! This is no leader, no compelling force of personality. He's a lump, as
was his father. Sadly, he's not benign. He's dangerous, deadly to us all. He's
feeding terrorists exactly what they need, fueling them.

RB

More hatred of the President displayed by the same, old
tired liberal rhetoric.

More Anti-American filth from Neal. Dead US soldiers are NOT rhetoric, you
rotting hunk of spleen.

RB

And three thousand dead US civilians is OK with you?

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
More hatred of the President displayed by the same, old
tired liberal rhetoric.

More Anti-American filth from Neal. Dead US soldiers are NOT rhetoric, you
rotting hunk of spleen.

RB

And three thousand dead US civilians is OK with you?

Nope...and that occured on "Bush Watch." Blame clinton, blame henry Ford if you
like.
Bush has done nothing. Bin Laden is free as are many of those behind 9/11. The
attack is Iraq is a party for terrorists. Bush is giving them the attention
they crave, while barely denting their network.
It's a joke the rest of the world can see very clearly and it's costing
American Lives.

Wha? Huh? Duh!

RB

You call dismantling to a great extend 'barely denting'?
Many say bin Laden is dead and has been dead since
the bombing of Bora Bora. A few lame audio tapes
does not make a live terrorist leader.

What a weird way of looking at things. I guess hatred
does that to one.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
And three thousand dead US civilians is OK with you?

Nope...and that occured on "Bush Watch." Blame clinton, blame henry Ford if you
like.
Bush has done nothing. Bin Laden is free as are many of those behind 9/11. The
attack is Iraq is a party for terrorists. Bush is giving them the attention
they crave, while barely denting their network.
It's a joke the rest of the world can see very clearly and it's costing
American Lives.

Wha? Huh? Duh!

RB

You call dismantling to a great extend 'barely denting'?

Huh? He dismantled ONE leader who's a drop in the bucket, while cells of
terrorists are over-run with more fanatics that ever before simply because of
US presence in Iraq.
You simply don't understand the forces against us anymore than Bush does. He's
doing exactly what they want. They live and die for this type of conflict. They
thrive on it.

RB