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Seahag November 5th 03 02:34 AM

Stinky sink!
 
The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag




The_navigator© November 5th 03 02:36 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Is it not draing properly? Can you close the sea cock and put draino
down it?

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag





Capt. Mooron November 5th 03 02:37 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Close the seacocks and pour a bottle of Overproof Rum into the sink until
the hose is full.... let sit for 3 days. It will never smell bad again.

CM

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
| The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home
any
| more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
| garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
| drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
| looking stuff and never was a problem..
|
| Seahag
|
|
|



Bobsprit November 5th 03 02:53 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Do you move the dishes before you **** into the sink?

RB


"Seahag" wrote in message
...
The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home

any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag






Brian McAloon November 5th 03 03:14 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Ha!
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
. net...
Do you move the dishes before you **** into the sink?

RB


"Seahag" wrote in message
...
The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home

any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag








The_navigator© November 5th 03 03:24 AM

Stinky sink!
 
It's an easy way to move the grease you know. I hear that some people
even use the same method on each other before. Sort of like a shower.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:

Ha!
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
. net...

Do you move the dishes before you **** into the sink?

RB


"Seahag" wrote in message
...

The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home


any

more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag









Seahag November 5th 03 03:25 AM

Stinky sink!
 
There is a sharpish bend under the sink, only part of the problem. It's
the same humongous black hose as the fuel fill. Original 1973 stock from
Taiwan, I was wondering if there is better hose y'all could recomend.

Mr. H. has been warned: No more cooking and paper plates until this is
done.

Boat smells like vomit!

Seahag


The_navigator© wrote

Is it not draing properly? Can you close the sea cock and put draino
down it?

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home

any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag







Seahag November 5th 03 03:27 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Tried that, stripped the paint off under the bootstripe!

Seahag

Capt. Mooron wrote in message
...
Close the seacocks and pour a bottle of Overproof Rum into the sink until
the hose is full.... let sit for 3 days. It will never smell bad again.

CM

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
| The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home
any
| more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
| garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
| drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
| looking stuff and never was a problem..
|
| Seahag
|
|
|





The_navigator© November 5th 03 03:29 AM

Stinky sink!
 
How about hose designed for head waste. It's very strong and chemical
resistant. Here its black or white in color. You should be able to get a
suitable size.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

There is a sharpish bend under the sink, only part of the problem. It's
the same humongous black hose as the fuel fill. Original 1973 stock from
Taiwan, I was wondering if there is better hose y'all could recomend.

Mr. H. has been warned: No more cooking and paper plates until this is
done.

Boat smells like vomit!

Seahag


The_navigator© wrote


Is it not draing properly? Can you close the sea cock and put draino
down it?

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:


The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home


any

more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag








The_navigator© November 5th 03 03:30 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Must have been cheap rum.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

Tried that, stripped the paint off under the bootstripe!

Seahag

Capt. Mooron wrote in message
...

Close the seacocks and pour a bottle of Overproof Rum into the sink until
the hose is full.... let sit for 3 days. It will never smell bad again.

CM

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
| The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home
any
| more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
| garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
| drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
| looking stuff and never was a problem..
|
| Seahag
|
|
|







Seahag November 5th 03 03:31 AM

Stinky sink!
 
No, urine removes that hard crusty residue you get from instant food.

Bobsprit wrote in message
. net...
Do you move the dishes before you **** into the sink?

RB


"Seahag" wrote in message
...
The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home

any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag








The_navigator© November 5th 03 03:32 AM

Stinky sink!
 

Series 148
"Flex" Sanitation Hose - Smooth H/D
A smooth wall extra heavy duty multi-purpose PVC hose
especially formulated and compounded from FDA materials
exhibiting low odor permeation. Excellent for all sanitation
systems, below water drains, potable water, water intake
systems, and aerators. Smooth cover permits clamping
without cuffs. Recommended double clamps and sealing
compounds for below waterline connections.
SIZE 5/8" I.D. thru 2" I.D.
DESC. FDA Formulated, White


Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

There is a sharpish bend under the sink, only part of the problem. It's
the same humongous black hose as the fuel fill. Original 1973 stock from
Taiwan, I was wondering if there is better hose y'all could recomend.

Mr. H. has been warned: No more cooking and paper plates until this is
done.

Boat smells like vomit!

Seahag


The_navigator© wrote


Is it not draing properly? Can you close the sea cock and put draino
down it?

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:


The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home


any

more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..

Seahag








Seahag November 5th 03 03:53 AM

Stinky sink!
 
I'll save that for Bill. Sounds good!

S

The_navigator© wrote:

Series 148
"Flex" Sanitation Hose - Smooth H/D
A smooth wall extra heavy duty multi-purpose PVC hose
especially formulated and compounded from FDA materials
exhibiting low odor permeation. Excellent for all sanitation
systems, below water drains, potable water, water intake
systems, and aerators. Smooth cover permits clamping
without cuffs. Recommended double clamps and sealing
compounds for below waterline connections.
SIZE 5/8" I.D. thru 2" I.D.
DESC. FDA Formulated, White


Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

There is a sharpish bend under the sink, only part of the problem.

It's
the same humongous black hose as the fuel fill. Original 1973 stock

from
Taiwan, I was wondering if there is better hose y'all could recomend.





Seahag November 5th 03 03:55 AM

Stinky sink!
 
What is on Ella? Not that you cook and do dishes every day, but curious
minds want to know!


The_navigator© wrote in message
...
How about hose designed for head waste. It's very strong and chemical
resistant. Here its black or white in color. You should be able to get a
suitable size.

Cheers MC





Seahag November 5th 03 03:55 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Yeah, Overproof!


The_navigator© wrote in message
...
Must have been cheap rum.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

Tried that, stripped the paint off under the bootstripe!

Seahag

Capt. Mooron wrote in message
...

Close the seacocks and pour a bottle of Overproof Rum into the sink

until
the hose is full.... let sit for 3 days. It will never smell bad again.

CM

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
| The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come

home
any
| more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put

a
| garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind

of
| drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled

thorax
| looking stuff and never was a problem..
|
| Seahag
|
|
|









katysails November 5th 03 04:02 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Does your sink drain to the bilge or out? I'd get something non-porous =
and that's unaffected by heat. Told you that if you poured all that =
turkey grease down there you'd regret it....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails November 5th 03 04:05 AM

Stinky sink!
 
It's an easy way to move the grease you know. I hear that some people=20
even use the same method on each other before. Sort of like a shower.

You new Zealander's are truly bizarre people....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


The_navigator© November 5th 03 04:12 AM

Stinky sink!
 
We have PVC based pipe but no problems with smells. It's too old to tell
where it came from. The pipe is very smooth inside and does not hold
gunk. I think that's key. The other side is that you must prevent grease
build up... so tell Mr Hag no more fry ups!!! Try flushing the drain
once a month with hot water and laundry detergent with a closed sea
cock and then open it before it's cooled too much. Failing that, keep
some Draino handy. I'd really think about a chemical resistant tube if I
were you...


Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

What is on Ella? Not that you cook and do dishes every day, but curious
minds want to know!


The_navigator© wrote in message
...

How about hose designed for head waste. It's very strong and chemical
resistant. Here its black or white in color. You should be able to get a
suitable size.

Cheers MC







The_navigator© November 5th 03 04:13 AM

Stinky sink!
 
That's the cheapest! Make sure your health insurance is up to date.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

Yeah, Overproof!


The_navigator© wrote in message
...

Must have been cheap rum.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:


Tried that, stripped the paint off under the bootstripe!

Seahag

Capt. Mooron wrote in message
. ..


Close the seacocks and pour a bottle of Overproof Rum into the sink


until

the hose is full.... let sit for 3 days. It will never smell bad again.

CM

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
| The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come


home

any
| more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put


a

| garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind


of

| drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled


thorax

| looking stuff and never was a problem..
|
| Seahag
|
|
|









The_navigator© November 5th 03 04:17 AM

Stinky sink!
 
I heard it was common in the USA actaully.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:

It's an easy way to move the grease you know. I hear that some people
even use the same method on each other before. Sort of like a shower.

You new Zealander's are truly bizarre people....



Seahag November 5th 03 04:23 AM

Stinky sink!
 
It goes out. The Tahiti had a sump in the bilge and wasn't a problem. Go
figure.

It wasn't the turkey, it was those damned little quail!

(Peep is sitting here bobbing (ew) his head at me:^)

katysails wrote in message
...
Does your sink drain to the bilge or out? I'd get something non-porous and
that's unaffected by heat. Told you that if you poured all that turkey
grease down there you'd regret it....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




Seahag November 5th 03 04:42 AM

Stinky sink!
 
"No more fry ups"??!!!! Ever?????? Ever made pompidoms at home? i love
a good curry...learned how in Kenya:^ Lots & lots of toppings...


The_navigator© wrote in message
...
We have PVC based pipe but no problems with smells. It's too old to tell
where it came from. The pipe is very smooth inside and does not hold
gunk. I think that's key. The other side is that you must prevent grease
build up... so tell Mr Hag no more fry ups!!! Try flushing the drain
once a month with hot water and laundry detergent with a closed sea
cock and then open it before it's cooled too much. Failing that, keep
some Draino handy. I'd really think about a chemical resistant tube if I
were you...


Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

What is on Ella? Not that you cook and do dishes every day, but curious
minds want to know!


The_navigator© wrote in message
...

How about hose designed for head waste. It's very strong and chemical
resistant. Here its black or white in color. You should be able to get a
suitable size.

Cheers MC









Jonathan Ganz November 5th 03 06:29 AM

Stinky sink!
 
Women just don't get the ****ing in the shower thing.

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
I heard it was common in the USA actaully.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:

It's an easy way to move the grease you know. I hear that some people
even use the same method on each other before. Sort of like a shower.

You new Zealander's are truly bizarre people....





Jeff Morris November 5th 03 01:15 PM

Stinky sink!
 
A galley sink on a liveaboard draining into the bilge? Is this a Mid-Western thing?



"katysails" wrote in message
...
Does your sink drain to the bilge or out? I'd get something non-porous and that's
unaffected by heat. Told you that if you poured all that turkey grease down there you'd
regret it....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Scott Vernon November 5th 03 04:57 PM

Stinky sink!
 
before or after you drink it?

SV, got 2 bottles of rum for birthday

"Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
Close the seacocks and pour a bottle of Overproof Rum into the sink until
the hose is full.... let sit for 3 days. It will never smell bad again.

CM




katysails November 5th 03 11:15 PM

Stinky sink!
 
Is this a Mid-Western thing?

No...it's a "some boats do" thing...ours certainly doesn't....ice chest =
does, though, which really annoys me...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Donal November 6th 03 12:19 AM

Stinky sink!
 

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
The gally sink on this boat stinks so bad I don't even want to come home

any
more, much less have people over. It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right. What kind of
drain hose do you think we should get? Lahaina had that rippled thorax
looking stuff and never was a problem..


Have you tried bleach?




Regards


Donal
--




Jeff Morris November 6th 03 12:25 AM

Stinky sink!
 
What about the head? Where does that drain?


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Is this a Mid-Western thing?

No...it's a "some boats do" thing...ours certainly doesn't....ice chest does, though,
which really annoys me...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails November 6th 03 02:52 AM

Stinky sink!
 
What about the head? Where does that drain?

Holding tank. Great Lakes, ya know...no discharge...Off to the pump out =
every other weekend or so....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Seahag November 6th 03 06:28 PM

Stinky sink!
 

katysails wrote:

....ice chest does, though, which really annoys me...



We put in one of those Rule sump pans with the little pump and strainer.
Keeps the bilge clean.

Seahag





Seahag November 6th 03 06:30 PM

Stinky sink!
 

Donal wrote:

"Seahag" wrote:


It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right.


Have you tried bleach?


Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!

Seahag





Seahag November 6th 03 06:37 PM

Stinky sink!
 

The Captains Nemesis wrote:

Haggy, often the smell is caused by the pipe being too big.
It doesn't get full bore flow so never flushes out properly.
If the outlet is 1" use 1"ID smooth bore hose, make sure it's suitable
for the use. caravan parts guys are the best source.


Mr. H. finally got home, turns out he actually has an elbow for the hose.
Talk about procrastination! He's going to cut out the kink and put in the
elbow. We'll see how that works. I'll keep the hose size in mind, on the
other boats the hose was 1", this one is 1 1/2 or 2"!

Seahag





DSK November 6th 03 06:47 PM

Stinky sink!
 
Have you tried bleach?


Seahag wrote:
Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!


Bleach kills critters, but it's also rather corrosive on lots of other
things. My advice is to never use bleach on anything on a boat, unless
you have very carefully prepared both the object to be bleached and the
surrounding area. More trouble than it's worth IMHO. And despite all well
intentioned advice to the contrary, putting bleach down a marine head is
one of the worst things you can do to the whole sanitation system.

Did you try vinegar? Works miracles on stinky boat plumbing.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Martin Baxter November 6th 03 07:16 PM

Stinky sink!
 
katysails wrote:

Is this a Mid-Western thing?

No...it's a "some boats do" thing...ours certainly doesn't....ice chest does, though, which really annoys me...



Katy:

It is illegal to drain the ice chest to the bilge on the Great Lakes, well, on the Canadian side anyway. I am assuming it's the same on your side. Of course this doesn't bother me too much as mine does the same.

Cheers
Marty

Seahag November 6th 03 07:48 PM

Stinky sink!
 

DSK wrote:
Have you tried bleach?



Seahag wrote:
Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!


Bleach kills critters, but it's also rather corrosive on lots of other
things. My advice is to never use bleach on anything on a boat, unless
you have very carefully prepared both the object to be bleached and the
surrounding area. More trouble than it's worth IMHO. And despite all well
intentioned advice to the contrary, putting bleach down a marine head is
one of the worst things you can do to the whole sanitation system.

Did you try vinegar? Works miracles on stinky boat plumbing.


I use vinegar about once a month on the terlet, works great keeping it
clean. I know what you mean about bleach, I save it for scrubbing off my
formica counters...eats up the sponges too!

Seahag





The_navigator© November 6th 03 08:29 PM

Stinky sink!
 
Oz is righ,t too big a hose allows gunk to build up on the walls.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

The Captains Nemesis wrote:

Haggy, often the smell is caused by the pipe being too big.
It doesn't get full bore flow so never flushes out properly.
If the outlet is 1" use 1"ID smooth bore hose, make sure it's suitable
for the use. caravan parts guys are the best source.



Mr. H. finally got home, turns out he actually has an elbow for the hose.
Talk about procrastination! He's going to cut out the kink and put in the
elbow. We'll see how that works. I'll keep the hose size in mind, on the
other boats the hose was 1", this one is 1 1/2 or 2"!

Seahag






The_navigator© November 6th 03 08:35 PM

Stinky sink!
 
Good lord. He's recommending acidifying fluids that may pass through
metal fittings.

Cheers MC

DSK wrote:

Have you tried bleach?



Seahag wrote:
Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!



Bleach kills critters, but it's also rather corrosive on lots of other
things. My advice is to never use bleach on anything on a boat, unless
you have very carefully prepared both the object to be bleached and the
surrounding area. More trouble than it's worth IMHO. And despite all well
intentioned advice to the contrary, putting bleach down a marine head is
one of the worst things you can do to the whole sanitation system.

Did you try vinegar? Works miracles on stinky boat plumbing.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



The_navigator© November 6th 03 08:39 PM

Stinky sink!
 
You can use peroxide type cleaners (Napisan type) with no worries.
Bleach should not be a problem on sanitation systems as the plastics
*should* be chemical resistant. In any case, bleach has a relatively low
attack rate on PV. Acids are never a good idea because of the damage
they do to any metal fittings (such as bronze through hulls). The damge
contines long after the inital exposure beacuse of the loss of oxidation.

Cheers MC

Seahag wrote:

DSK wrote:

Have you tried bleach?


Seahag wrote:
Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!


Bleach kills critters, but it's also rather corrosive on lots of other
things. My advice is to never use bleach on anything on a boat, unless
you have very carefully prepared both the object to be bleached and the
surrounding area. More trouble than it's worth IMHO. And despite all well
intentioned advice to the contrary, putting bleach down a marine head is
one of the worst things you can do to the whole sanitation system.

Did you try vinegar? Works miracles on stinky boat plumbing.



I use vinegar about once a month on the terlet, works great keeping it
clean. I know what you mean about bleach, I save it for scrubbing off my
formica counters...eats up the sponges too!

Seahag






Donal November 6th 03 10:55 PM

Stinky sink!
 

"Seahag" wrote in message
...

Donal wrote:

"Seahag" wrote:


It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right.


Have you tried bleach?


Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!



A couple of years ago, we had a problem with a "taint" in the drinking
water. Even hot drinks tasted terrible! I used Beer Pipe Cleaner(which is
essentially *strong* bleach) and the problem hasn't returned.


Perhaps you should ask Peggy (rec.boats???) - she seems to know about these
things.

Regards


Donal
--




Simple Simon November 6th 03 11:59 PM

Stinky sink!
 
There is only one solution to your problem.

Get under there and install a trap or have
your man do it.

S.Simon


"Seahag" wrote in message ...

Donal wrote:

"Seahag" wrote:


It's slightly tolerable when we put a
garden hose down it for 20 minutes, but this ain't right.


Have you tried bleach?


Yeah, among other things. It's a miracle I didn't kill the critters!

Seahag








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