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Bobsprit October 17th 03 12:27 PM

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What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB

Martin Baxter October 17th 03 02:37 PM

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The Captains Nemesis wrote:

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:25:01 +1000, The Captains Nemesis wrote:

On 17 Oct 2003 11:27:29 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB


Peterson 44, no contest.

http://old.cruisingworld.com/ssbk/pete44.htm


It just won't do Oz, it's got a 62 Hp engine fer Gawds sake! Whatever
will Neal say?
Other than that, a damn nice boat, if you like center cockpits.

Cheers
Marty

Jeff Morris October 17th 03 03:11 PM

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Obviously, a catamaran makes the best liveaboard, assuming you have a place to put it.
While I love PDQs, I think the new 42 would be over $300K, and very few on the used
market. However, I've been very impressed with the Manta 42:

http://www.mantausa.com/prod_42.html
http://www.cruisingworld.com/cw_arti...p?articleID=12


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB




Jonathan Ganz October 17th 03 05:52 PM

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Your apartment?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K

on
the used market?


Capt RB




Simple Simon October 17th 03 06:01 PM

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http://www.homestead.com/captneal/sheshines.html

The very best of the best . . .

S.Simon



"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB




Bobsprit October 17th 03 06:12 PM

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http://www.homestead.com/captneal/sheshines.html

The very best of the best . . .

Yes, perfect for the likes of neal, pictured here...

http://www.warwickdavis.co.uk/images/Lep_beer.jpg

Or is that Donal?

RB

DSK October 17th 03 07:02 PM

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This boat ought to make a good liveaboard.

http://taxidancer.us/

Of course, the draft is too deep for gunkholing, so she's not really all that
great as a cruiser. But roomy, and impressive... enough deck space for partying
with friends. Of course you'd need to keep the loose knicknacks to a minimum if
you were ever going to sail it...

DSK




Simple Simon October 17th 03 07:16 PM

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It's the right color at least.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message ...
This boat ought to make a good liveaboard.

http://taxidancer.us/

Of course, the draft is too deep for gunkholing, so she's not really all that
great as a cruiser. But roomy, and impressive... enough deck space for partying
with friends. Of course you'd need to keep the loose knicknacks to a minimum if
you were ever going to sail it...

DSK






Jonathan Ganz October 17th 03 07:30 PM

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You need to go easy on the exterior semi-gloss you got at
ACE hardware...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/sheshines.html

The very best of the best . . .

S.Simon



"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under

300K on
the used market?


Capt RB






thunder October 17th 03 07:53 PM

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:02:00 -0400, DSK wrote:

This boat ought to make a good liveaboard.

http://taxidancer.us/

Of course, the draft is too deep for gunkholing, so she's not really all
that great as a cruiser. But roomy, and impressive... enough deck space
for partying with friends. Of course you'd need to keep the loose
knicknacks to a minimum if you were ever going to sail it...

DSK


Just curious, I wonder what it's "personal overboard module" entails?

Donal October 17th 03 11:32 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/sheshines.html

The very best of the best . . .

Yes, perfect for the likes of neal, pictured here...

http://www.warwickdavis.co.uk/images/Lep_beer.jpg

Or is that Donal?



Damn!!! Exposed!

OK, I admit it... I'm not really 5' tall at all.



Regards



Donal - A handsome hunk.
--




SAIL LOCO October 17th 03 11:47 PM

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What's a "pinhead staysail"
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

DSK October 18th 03 12:35 AM

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The Captains Nemesis wrote:

You're kidding Doug?
What are you gonna do for light below?


Yeah, I noticed that. But underway, you'll be going so fast that interior light will
be red-shifted anyway ;)

DSK


katysails October 18th 03 01:29 AM

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http://taxidancer.us/

Good grief...it's mustard yellow....
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Simple Simon October 18th 03 01:30 AM

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I use nothing but the best - Sears Weather Beater.

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
You need to go easy on the exterior semi-gloss you got at
ACE hardware...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/sheshines.html

The very best of the best . . .

S.Simon



"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under

300K on
the used market?


Capt RB








Simple Simon October 18th 03 01:40 AM

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Yes, nice looking isn't she? People always are copying my
color scheme.

S.Simon


"katysails" wrote in message ...

http://taxidancer.us/

Good grief...it's mustard yellow....



Joe October 18th 03 02:36 AM

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(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB



I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Simple Simon October 18th 03 02:49 AM

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Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat.

Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust.

S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB



I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud




Jonathan Ganz October 18th 03 04:20 AM

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I believe Kelly Moore is a better paint.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


I use nothing but the best - Sears Weather Beater.

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
You need to go easy on the exterior semi-gloss you got at
ACE hardware...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/sheshines.html

The very best of the best . . .

S.Simon



"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and

under
300K on
the used market?


Capt RB









Lady Pilot October 19th 03 02:29 AM

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"Donal" wrote:

Or is that Donal?



Damn!!! Exposed!

OK, I admit it... I'm not really 5' tall at all.


If you are from Ireland, why did you move to England?

Donal - A handsome hunk.


Really? Prove it!! eg

LP



Lady Pilot October 19th 03 02:31 AM

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"Joe" wrote:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on.


Only six? How long is your boat and what is it called?

LP



Simple Simon October 19th 03 02:37 AM

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No wonder you're a desperate woman - you chase all the
losers and couldn't recognize a winner if he fell into your
lap.

S.Simon


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:TPlkb.2948$B_2.2069@okepread02...

"Joe" wrote:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on.


Only six? How long is your boat and what is it called?

LP





Joe October 19th 03 03:39 PM

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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:TPlkb.2948$B_2.2069@okepread02...
"Joe" wrote:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on.


Only six? How long is your boat and what is it called?

LP


You could sleep a hundred, but only in 6 bunks.

42 foot, called RedCloud

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Joe October 19th 03 03:50 PM

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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat.

Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust.

S.Simon



Perhaps that is true on any steel hull that you would maintain.

However Redcloud has an average of approx. 20 mils of paint. 13 mils
on the cabins 27 mils on the decks and 23 mils on the hulls. Applied
by a master steel preservation expert.....me.

I measured it just yesterday with my handy dandy Mikrotest Magnetic
Gage made in Germany by Elektrophysik-Koln.


Have you gauged the size of those blisters on your flimsy hull lately?

Joe
MSV RedCloud




"Joe" wrote in message om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB



I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


The_navigator© October 19th 03 10:20 PM

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Worried about the skin thickness? Forgotten to replace all those anodes
again?

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...

Red Cloud - a particularly apt name for a steel boat.

Always surrounded by a cloud of red rust.

S.Simon




Perhaps that is true on any steel hull that you would maintain.

However Redcloud has an average of approx. 20 mils of paint. 13 mils
on the cabins 27 mils on the decks and 23 mils on the hulls. Applied
by a master steel preservation expert.....me.

I measured it just yesterday with my handy dandy Mikrotest Magnetic
Gage made in Germany by Elektrophysik-Koln.


Have you gauged the size of those blisters on your flimsy hull lately?

Joe
MSV RedCloud




"Joe" wrote in message om...

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB


I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



The_navigator© October 19th 03 10:20 PM

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Ella can sleep 9!

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB




I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



The_navigator© October 19th 03 10:21 PM

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Don't take her into the ocean. Those huge 'windows' won't make it.

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB




I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



Simple Simon October 19th 03 10:34 PM

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Any boat as slow as Ella probably puts more than that
many people to sleep!


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Ella can sleep 9!

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB




I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud





Donal October 20th 03 12:29 AM

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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:bOlkb.2947$B_2.2089@okepread02...

"Donal" wrote:

OK, I admit it... I'm not really 5' tall at all.


If you are from Ireland, why did you move to England?


What a "Bertiesque" question!


Donal - A handsome hunk.


Really? Prove it!! eg


I don't need to. I have the company that I require.



Regards

Donal - Who can still go at it twice a night!
--





Lady Pilot October 20th 03 12:44 AM

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I asked Joe a simple question. Maybe you should take off those rose
colored glasses when you read my posts...or would that be mauve
colored glasses?

What winner? guffaw

LP

"Simple Simon" wrote:


No wonder you're a desperate woman - you chase all the
losers and couldn't recognize a winner if he fell into your
lap.

S.Simon


"Lady Pilot" wrote:...

"Joe" wrote:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on.


Only six? How long is your boat and what is it called?

LP







Lady Pilot October 20th 03 12:47 AM

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"Joe" wrote:
"Lady Pilot" wrote:
"Joe" wrote:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on.


Only six? How long is your boat and what is it called?

LP


You could sleep a hundred, but only in 6 bunks.

42 foot,


Hmm. It looks bigger in that picture, must be the lens.

called RedCloud

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Yes, I know what you call her, I've read it many times in your posts.

I meant to say what is the manufacture, model, make...

LP




Lady Pilot October 20th 03 12:48 AM

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You have a nice boat, Nav...

LP (seen the pics on the website)

"The_navigator©" wrote:
Ella can sleep 9!

Cheers MC




Capt. Mooron October 20th 03 01:33 AM

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"Donal" wrote in message

| Donal - Who can still go at it twice a night!

Must be hell on the power bill to keep the lights on in the loo all night.
;-)

CM



Lady Pilot October 20th 03 02:25 AM

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The Captains Nemesis wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:33:53 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


"Donal" wrote in message

| Donal - Who can still go at it twice a night!

Must be hell on the power bill to keep the lights on in the loo

all night.
;-)
CM


There's only a singlr bulb in his outhouse.
Oz1...of the 3 twins.


Wouldn't it be a candle in a circa 1740 home?

LP



The_navigator© October 20th 03 02:49 AM

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Bwhahahhahahahhahhahah. The sleep of the satisfied, not bored!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Any boat as slow as Ella probably puts more than that
many people to sleep!


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Ella can sleep 9!

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:


(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...


What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB



I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud






The_navigator© October 20th 03 02:58 AM

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Nice? Marvellous! Beautiful! Excellent! MC goes off mumbling...

Cheers MC

Lady Pilot wrote:

You have a nice boat, Nav...

LP (seen the pics on the website)

"The_navigator©" wrote:

Ella can sleep 9!

Cheers MC






The_navigator© October 20th 03 03:01 AM

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LOL That's one more than in his head!

Cheers MC

The Captains Nemesis wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:33:53 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


"Donal" wrote in message

| Donal - Who can still go at it twice a night!

Must be hell on the power bill to keep the lights on in the loo all night.
;-)

CM



There's only a singlr bulb in his outhouse.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Capt. Mooron October 20th 03 04:03 AM

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Yeah but Cappy has his own garden growing along the waterline. You know how
relaxing it is to tend to your garden.

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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| Bwhahahhahahahhahhahah. The sleep of the satisfied, not bored!
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Simple Simon wrote:
|
| Any boat as slow as Ella probably puts more than that
| many people to sleep!
|
|
| "The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
|
| Ella can sleep 9!
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Joe wrote:
|
|
| (Bobsprit) wrote in message
...
|
|
| What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under
300K on
| the used market?
|
|
| Capt RB
|
|
|
| I would build a steel hull like this one:
|
| http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg
|
| Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
| will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
| party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
| hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.
|
| You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.
|
| Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.
|
| Joe
| MSV RedCloud
|
|
|
|



katysails October 20th 03 12:09 PM

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Nice? Marvellous! Beautiful! Excellent! MC goes off mumbling...

Cheers MC

You'll have to excuse LP...she is not a sailor...yet....so doesn't know =
what she's looking at....yet....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Joe October 20th 03 03:11 PM

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The_navigator© wrote in message ...
Don't take her into the ocean. Those huge 'windows' won't make it.

Cheers MC


To late, RedCloud made it across the Atlantic 3 times, And thats when
the windows were glass. Now they are 1/4 inch lexan.

Dont take that dangerious Cat of yours to far from a crane. YOU WILL
NEED IT WHEN YOU FLIP OVER.

Joe






Joe wrote:

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...

What's a few best liveaboard sailing vessels, under 55 feet and under 300K on
the used market?


Capt RB




I would build a steel hull like this one:

http://www.sailinglinks.com/images/RedCloud.jpg

Sleeps six, but perfect for 2 to live on. Strong enough that even you
will feel safe out in the deep water. Long cruising range, room for a
party in the cockpit and you all stay dry. Small enough to single
hand, yet large enough to be comfortable.

You can also buy some nice kits from Bruce Roberts.

Here in the marina is a sweet 62 foot aluminum ketch, But it's 335K.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



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