Then what you're claiming is there is never an in-sight
circumstance in restricted visibility? He he, gotcha!

If you answer in the infirmative you are patently incorrect
as I have proven already.

It is clear that in-sight situations occur on a regular basis
in restricted visibility. You said yourself that in-sight rules
apply when vessels are in sight. Therefore, since in-sight
rules require full adherance to the pecking order rules it
follows that oftentimes in restricted visibility there is a
pecking order. When there is a pecking order there is
a stand-on vessel and a give-way vessel.

You tugboat captains have insisted there is no such thing
as a stand-on vessel in or near an area of restricted
visibility. The above paragraph proves you all incorrect.

Accept it and live with it! I was right, I am right and I
forever shall remain right (unless and until they clarify this
discrepancy in the Rules).

S.Simon


"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...
ROFL You insist on going through life with one foot firmly nailed to the
floor.
If BOTH vessels are in sight of each other then visual rules apply. If
only one or neither vessel is in sight of the other, then the rules for
restricted visibility apply and BOTH vessels must navigate with extreme
caution until they are clear of each other.
Toot all the whistle signals you want .... there are rules for in sight
and rules for not in sight .... they are different and until your simple
brain can grasp this simple concept, you have been, are, and forever
will be a danger to yourself and all others, in restricted visibility.

Simple Simon wrote:
I admitted no such thing.

When not in sight in a fog one must rely upon the different
sound signals given by motor vessels as opposed to the
remainder of the pecking order. Any motor vessel, upon
hearing the fog signal of another vessel above it in the
pecking order, must prepare to give way the moment
said vessels come in sight of each other. This means
there is, indeed, a give way vessel in restricted visibility.

ROFL how you come up with some of these conclusions, is amazing......

otn