Its an interesting comment, one that we've discussed before. It may
actually have some validity in very light fog, which might be all Neal has
any experiance in. However, it is the opinion of all of the commentators,
the IMO, and the courts, that if there is any doubt as to the conditions,
one must assume you are NOT in sight of one another.

In thick fog (which has always been stipulated in these discussions) there
will not be sufficient time for a powerboat to avoid collision if a sailboat
assumes it is "standon"and continues at hull speed. This is why the rules
stipulate that ALL VESSELS must slow when hearing a fog signal.

An interesting point is that until 1972 this rule only applied to
powerboats. Previous versions of the ColRegs (from about 1890 and 1948) had
similar wording but only applied it to power, not sail. Obviously, the IMO
decided that it was important that ALL VESSELS slow down in the fog when
hearing a fog signal. They also eliminated the concept of "moderate speed"
and replaced it with "safe speed."

-jeff



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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In a fog, as soon as vessels concerned come within sight of one
another the sailboat is the stand-on vessel with respect to the
motor vessel

This means in a fog (when in sight) the pecking order applies.

This loophole in the Rules is something that seems to go right
over the heads of the group's tugboat captains. They cannot
fathom the fact that 'in sight' also exists in restricted visibility
as in a fog. Since 'in sight' exists in a fog then the pecking order
exists in a fog. This is so logical that it cannot be argued.

Yet the fools continue to argue it . . .

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Who is the stand on vessel in fog?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Joe,

I'm surprised at you making an ignorant statement like you could
care less about the COLREGS. Everybody who cares about safe
and sane operation of boats of all kinds would do well to learn the
COLREGS. Even if you aren't concerned about safety you should
be concerned about liability. Knowing and following the COLREGS
will eventually save you far more trouble than the little time spent
avoiding acquiring this valuable knowledge.

I recommend you visit my website and read the Novice Lessons
where I give a very good and thorough explaination in layman's
terms of the COLREGS.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/lesson.html


S.Simon - knows the COLREGS better than any other individual
here and better than all the tugboat captains combined
which includes Rick, Otnmbrd, Morris, and Shen44.


"Joe" wrote in message
om...

"katysails" wrote in message
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So the gamers should respect the people and the vessel with a goal
and
or a purpose.

Racers are entoute and do have a goal and purpose. It is just not
YOUR
goal or purpose. They do have to follow COLREGS, though, in the
process
even though some forget that.

Katy,

If a man is mowing a lawn, would you expect him to stop so you can
play baseball? He's trying to feed his kids. Yet you are just playing
a game.

If a man is sweeping a sidewalk, would you have him stop so you can
Scotty can play jacks?

You may have the right to demand him to stop, But the whole
neighborhood will suffer a dirty sidewalk because you are selfish.

I could care less about the COLREGS.

It's not about the law, it's about the respect.

Joe
MSV RedCloud