Why do you assume that radar would not have existed without the Brits help? Its true that
significant improvements where made in England, especially to the cavity magnetron (itself
an American invention), but this was a technology rapidly advancing in a number of sites.
In the US, the Radiation Laboratory (or RadLab) at MIT was funded at the same level as the
Manhattan Project, and surely would have duplicated most of the British work in a matter
of months. Given the significance of the work, of course, that several months was rather
important.





"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?


The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.




Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?


The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--

Hey Empress,

The Queen as spoken!

Empresses have much more authority than Queen's...royal or the other =
type....
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

That's funny I though thge cavity magentron was invented by the British
and smuggled to the US in a sock. Come to think of it, the British
seemed to like that ploy as they also used it to smuggle penicillin to
the US as well!

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

Why do you assume that radar would not have existed without the Brits help? Its true that
significant improvements where made in England, especially to the cavity magnetron (itself
an American invention), but this was a technology rapidly advancing in a number of sites.
In the US, the Radiation Laboratory (or RadLab) at MIT was funded at the same level as the
Manhattan Project, and surely would have duplicated most of the British work in a matter
of months. Given the significance of the work, of course, that several months was rather
important.





"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...


Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?


The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.





Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?


The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--

5 cents!

That's all you're worth? I would have thought at least 2.98...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Sonar? What's your claim?



"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
Let's not forget sonar...

Cheers MC

The_navigator© wrote:

What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?



The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.




Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?



The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--

ASDIC?

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

Sonar? What's your claim?



"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Let's not forget sonar...

Cheers MC

The_navigator© wrote:


What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...


Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?



The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.





Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?



The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--

How about:

ASDIC 1916-1921 (1921 British sucessfully detect silent sub on bottom.

US navy underwater sound group develop their version effective below 6
knots: SONAR in 1931 (10 years later).

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

Sonar? What's your claim?



"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Let's not forget sonar...

Cheers MC

The_navigator© wrote:


What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...


Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?



The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.





Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?



The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--

I doing YOUR bidding as requested your Highness.

katysails wrote:

5 cents!

That's all you're worth? I would have thought at least 2.98...

And what about RDF?

Cheers MC

The_navigator© wrote:

Let's not forget sonar...

Cheers MC

The_navigator© wrote:

What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and
before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?




The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.




Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?




The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--

The Cavity Magnetron was invented by A W Hull and General Electric in 1921. A number of
others, including Germans, contributed enhancements over the years. The British version
had greatly increased power and was the first practical for use in airplanes. It was
certainly a major step forward, but not the "invention of radar" as many would have it.

The discovery of penicillin was probably a more unique discovery.



"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
That's funny I though thge cavity magentron was invented by the British
and smuggled to the US in a sock. Come to think of it, the British
seemed to like that ploy as they also used it to smuggle penicillin to
the US as well!

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

Why do you assume that radar would not have existed without the Brits help? Its true
that
significant improvements where made in England, especially to the cavity magnetron
(itself
an American invention), but this was a technology rapidly advancing in a number of
sites.
In the US, the Radiation Laboratory (or RadLab) at MIT was funded at the same level as
the
Manhattan Project, and surely would have duplicated most of the British work in a
matter
of months. Given the significance of the work, of course, that several months was
rather
important.





"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

What would the US have built without being given the design of the
supercharged merlin engine? What about radar? Makes one wonder...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...


Sure Donal,

Peace in our time was said just after Adofl went into Austria and before
England went to War.

U.S. went to war 12/7/41

Now,Donal, Maybe you would like to give the group a list of the Battles
that the Brits won in that time?


The Battle of Britian comes to mind. If the British had lost, then the
outcome of the American war with Japan could have turned out very
differently.





Your refernce was a Joke? At whose expense?


The Californian electorate.


Regards

Donal
--