Killing Pets
 

You're not very intelligent, are you? Either that or you're just
an illogical contrarian. I did not show compassion for Minx.
I did not know the little animal so how can I show compassion
for an unkown entity.

What I did show was loathing for a very large subset of people
who assume the obligation of a pet and then because the animal
does not live up to their expectations or becomes more trouble
than assumed these people abandon or have their pet killed.

They then expect sympathy from people for their "loss" not even
understanding that they suffered no "loss". Losing something and
throwing it away on purpose are two different things. Minx was
thrown away. She was not lost. Why is this so hard to understand?

I think it's easy to understand but the same subset of people who
abandon and kill and call it losing don't allow themselves to see the
truth because the truth hurts and recognizing it as the truth would
require attitudes to change. Better to lie than to change. Better to
call killing losing than to be truthful. This is sickness pure.

S.Simon


"The Carrolls" wrote in message ...
You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show
compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a
person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the
conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a
dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the
opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and
compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your
character.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Negative!

What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things
that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway
toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's
worse these people expect support and sympathy for their
moral decriptitude.

People move into an apartment or house where pets are not
allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car
along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person
who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the
pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat
so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many
excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept
obligations because it is inconvenient to do so.

This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect
for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many
people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people
will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their
pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever
kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live.
Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal.
A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal
to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations.

It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to
regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on
the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind.
Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever
is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is
they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals
with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense.

If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are
worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these
words.

S.Simon - loves and respects animals


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

Killing Pets
 

No Minxy was taken from us by a disease. Her life was ended before she
suffered more and I stand by my humane decision that was recommended by
animal care experts.

MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Minx was
thrown away. She was not lost. Why is this so hard to understand?

I think it's easy to understand but the same subset of people who
abandon and kill and call it losing don't allow themselves to see the
truth because the truth hurts and recognizing it as the truth would
require attitudes to change. Better to lie than to change. Better to
call killing losing than to be truthful. This is sickness pure.

Navigator's lament
 

I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:

The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

Killing Pets
 

91.... but he insists on no middle numbers until he hits one hundred. Man
has he ever chilled with the years. He was one strict, mean SOB when he was
my age. Back then I couldn't do anything to please him.... now everything I
do just amuses him!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| You don't know your Dads' age? Oy!
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
| Yup... had to run Dad to the hospital... pneumonia. With him 90+ years
old
|
|
|
|
|

Killing Pets
 

Your're sounding more and more like a LIBERAL every day!

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| What's this 'put down' ****?
|
| How people obfuscate! Using a sanitary term does not make putting down
| any less than the act of killiing.
|
| People kill; people die. People do not put down; people do not pass away!
| Let's accept reality for once.
|
| The very use of English shows the extremes people go to to deny acts
| and consequences. This is sickness pure!
|
| S.Simon
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
...
|
| In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two
| years of life for a human??
|
| It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell (if
you are able to do it...)
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|

Killing Pets
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...

In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two
years of life for a human??

It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell (if
you are able to do it...)


$15.00 is very cheap, compared to what our thieving vers charge!


My question must be re-phrased, thusly " In other words, is three minutes of
suffering for a dumb pet worth 15 weeks of life for a human"?

I already know what Simon's answer will be! He's a sick, and twisted,
individual who is incapable of seeing the simple truth when it stares him in
the face!

Regards


Donal
--

Killing Pets
 

You're confused, man! Liberals are the ones all for politically correct
speech. Liberals are the one's who make up terms like, 'putting down'
for killing, 'passing away' for dying, 'resource center' for library, 'right to
choose' for killing a foetus, 'African-American' for Negro, ad nauseum.

Get it straight before opening your pie hole.

S.Simon - tells it like it is - a very conservative thing to do.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Your're sounding more and more like a LIBERAL every day!

Navigator's lament
 

It would seem to me it is up to you to prove me wrong.

So far there has been precious little evidence coming
from you that I was wrong. Why, you won't even
put a name to this horrible and painful disease you
say your kitten suffered from. The conclusions I
draw come from the words you wrote. Try writing
something more informative and I might consider
apologizing for being too harsh on you.

I attacked you more out of a desire to point out
pets are a very great responsiblilty not to be assumed
lightly. They represent an obligation not to be dismissed
easily. I felt you were an example of rather callous
behavior regarding pets that is epidemic these days.
I suppose it's useless to expect even one person
to agree with me these days but I have to try at least.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:

The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

Killing Pets
 

Now they even
kill the chickens BEFORE...
Many meat breed chickens that are ranched are now geneticlly =
featherless....really gross looking creatures....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

remember 'Ol Yellow?

On my list of "Seen Once Never Want To See Again" movies along with =
Beautiful Joe, The Biscuit Eater, Where the Red Fern Grows, Bambi, and =
The Yearling. All great movies...once....I have unfortunately been on =
the other side of the killing needle and putting down someone's pet is a =
hard thing to do. We keep animals alive long past when they would have =
naturally succumbed in the wild and sometimes prolong their agony by our =
good intentions. Coming to mind are such actions as attaching a wagon =
to the rear end of a dog so he can move his paralyzed back end =
around....or have you ever watched a dog with degenerative hip dysplacia =
gradually lose control of his back end only to go through surgery after =
surgery to replace what wasn't there in the first place? The difference =
between lower animals and ourselves is that we know why pain exists. We =
can choose. An animal in the wild will gnaw off its' own limb if in =
that much pain and then will die of the infection. Animals cannot =
choose suicide...they just become so weak they become a part of the food =
chain for others. Making an animal that is a pet go through pain like =
that is unkind and unnatural.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

Did something happen to the Captain?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
remember 'Ol Yellow?


"katysails" wrote

Or the price of a .22 shell (if you are able to do it...)

Killing Pets
 

You're confusing animals and minorities.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
That's because inbred red-neck texans *try* to run them over. They have
a
point system and everything.

SV

"jlrogers" wrote in message
.. .
Now that's not funny. I drove out to Jacksboro, TX yesterday and was
amazed
at the dead animals on the highway. In a hundred miles I counted 2 dead
skunks, 3 dead possums, 1 dead dog and 3 dead but unidentifiable.


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
When I get tired of a dog I take him out to chase balls on RT 95.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Killing Pets
 

"Simple Simon" wrote:

Sorry, but anybody who's a friend of Mooron's is no friend of mine .
.. .

S.Simon - the only true friend is a faithful cat or dog

Tsk, tsk. No wonder you hang on your mooring all alone with no
friends.

LP

Killing Pets
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote :

Everyone should know what a steak really costs......

I already know, my ex in-laws have a big cattle ranch. But I really
don't like to dwell on such unpleasant thoughts...

LP

Killing Pets
 

My question must be re-phrased, thusly " In other words, is three =
minutes of
suffering for a dumb pet worth 15 weeks of life for a human"?

There are choices and then there are choices. If a person does not =
spend the money for the euthanasia, then he will spend it for the vet. =
I had a client with 3 small children. The family acquired a cute fuzzy =
wuzzy daisy dog with an unfortunate genetic bone disease. The dogs =
forelegs were actually rotating in the shoulder sockets and by the time =
the dog was 6 months old, his feet were on almost backwards...the local =
high priced vet with the CAT scan, etc. referred them to the state =
university vet hospital for extensive surgery. The surgery was going to =
cost 4K. The woman asked my opinion and I gave it to her honestly. I =
said that 4K buys a lot of groceries and a lot of healthy puppies that =
could play with her children. I explained that even though it would be =
a hard thing to do, euphonizing the animal was probably the best thing =
all around. I lost her as a client, but still knew people who were =
familiar with the family. The dog died on the operating table and they =
still owed 4K for the surgery. And their kids still didn't have a dog =
they could play with. And I bet Christmas was pretty light that year. =20

Everyone justifies their own actions by their own set of ethics and =
values. Each person holds one thing more dear than another person =
might. I'm not going to judge a person for spending money on =
euphonizing an animal over feeding someone starving in Africa. The New =
testament says that the poor will always be with us. We can alleviate =
that as much as possible, but we still have our own lives. I guess =
unless we all decide to emulate St. Francis of Assisi (who BTW did not =
exclude animals from his care...that we're just kind of stuck making the =
best decisions we know how with what we personally have to work with.
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

Yech...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
After 17 years I figured he was too tough so I pressure cookered him....

You ever see the movie "Fried Green Tomatoes"?

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

I drove out to Jacksboro, TX yesterday and was amazed
at the dead animals on the highway. In a hundred miles I counted 2 dead
skunks, 3 dead possums, 1 dead dog and 3 dead but unidentifiable.

When we drove through OK and the TX panhandle we saw hundreds of dead =
jackrabbits...coudln't believe there could be so many dead animals on =
the road...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message ...
Tsk, tsk. No wonder you hang on your mooring all alone with no
friends.


What business is it of yours?

S.Simon

Killing Pets
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

| You wouldn't take an animal on board your boat?

Sure... as long as it could tail winches, hoist anchor, swab the
deck....
in short carry it's fair share of the load. That ain't gonna happen
with a
dog or a cat.

I don't think a cat would be much trouble, if it liked sailing.

I've been known to allow deck gorillas aboard......

I used to have a Giant Schnauzer that went to work with me everyday at
Tulsa International Airport. He used to fly with me often. He was
attacked trained and would stay between me and the person walking up
to me. He was a very cool dog. Once he nearly drowned in the lake I
lived on. I went out with a friends on their boat and saw in the
distance a bobbing black head, which we all thought was a duck from a
distance. This dog swam about a mile offshore so he could be with me.
We had to pull this huge dog in the boat so he wouldn't drown. The
poor old dog died in surgery for a large tumor.

LP

Killing Pets
 

They are only unpleasant when you have no respect for the animal that
provided your meal. I don't eat store steak.... I only eat flesh when I know
who killed it , how, why and when. I petted the pig whose porkchops grace my
fridge. She had a good life.... only the best foods and a quick painless
death. The two of them drank 5 gallons of homemade cider prior to getting
shot between the eyes while they were staggering up to the trough for
another helping of apple sauce. Bet'cha they didn't even know they were dead
when they died.

CM

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote :
|
| Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
|
| I already know, my ex in-laws have a big cattle ranch. But I really
| don't like to dwell on such unpleasant thoughts...
|
| LP
|
|

Killing Pets
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
|
|
|
| "Lady Pilot" wrote in message
...
| Tsk, tsk. No wonder you hang on your mooring all alone with no
| friends.
|
|
| What business is it of yours?

She's concerned..... you're pathetic! You should be honoured LP takes even
a fleeting interest.

CM

Killing Pets
 

I bet you could feed a whole village for 5 years with the money you spent to
buy that Bendytoe. You pseudo liberals make me sick!

Scotty



"Donal" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...

In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two
years of life for a human??

It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell (if
you are able to do it...)


$15.00 is very cheap, compared to what our thieving vers charge!


My question must be re-phrased, thusly " In other words, is three minutes
of
suffering for a dumb pet worth 15 weeks of life for a human"?

I already know what Simon's answer will be! He's a sick, and twisted,
individual who is incapable of seeing the simple truth when it stares him
in
the face!

Regards


Donal
--

Killing Pets
 

I just bought a T-bone for $5.67.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote :

Everyone should know what a steak really costs......

Killing Pets
 

Did you include the cost to the cow?

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I just bought a T-bone for $5.67.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote :
|
| Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
|
|
|

Killing Pets
 

You mean besides you and Horass?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Except for Bobsprit and BillyJane who are examples of a new species - homo
homo.

S.Simon


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Got news for you....even though we are sapient and have cognitive
reasoning, we are animals. We are primates of the genus homo and
species sapien. Some people prefer to ignore that fact, but it is a fact.

Navigator's lament
 

As someone who has been involved with a particular rescue organization
for a particular breed of dog, I have to agree with Neal's basic premise
that too many people consider pets to be some form of disposable toy,
rather than a long term responsibility.
However, having also been involved with the necessity of putting an
animal "down" more than once, with the attendant worry that it was the
right thing to do at the right time, I did not get the sense that the
"Navigator" took his decision lightly, nor does he need to explain his
reasons to those of us not there and/or familiar with the situation that
existed, at the time ..... nuff said.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
It would seem to me it is up to you to prove me wrong.

So far there has been precious little evidence coming
from you that I was wrong. Why, you won't even
put a name to this horrible and painful disease you
say your kitten suffered from. The conclusions I
draw come from the words you wrote. Try writing
something more informative and I might consider
apologizing for being too harsh on you.

I attacked you more out of a desire to point out
pets are a very great responsiblilty not to be assumed
lightly. They represent an obligation not to be dismissed
easily. I felt you were an example of rather callous
behavior regarding pets that is epidemic these days.
I suppose it's useless to expect even one person
to agree with me these days but I have to try at least.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:


The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

Killing Pets
 

I didn't buy it for no stinking cow, I bought it for myself. I paid for it.
It cost ME $5.67.

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Did you include the cost to the cow?

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I just bought a T-bone for $5.67.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote :
|
| Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
|
|
|

Killing Pets
 

This dog swam about a mile offshore so he could be with me.

Tht's one of the bad thngs about dogs going overboard...they will follow =
the boat because you are on it even if shore is a swimmable distance =
away....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

One day a farmer's donkey fell down into a well. The
: animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried
: to figure out what to do. Finally, he decided the
: animal was old, and the well needed to be covered up
: anyway; it just wasn't worth it to retrieve the
: donkey. He invited all his neighbors to come over and
: help him. They all grabbed a shovel and began to
: shovel dirt into the well. At first, the donkey
: realized what was happening and cried horribly. Then,
: to everyone's amazement he quieted down. A few ! shovel
: loads later, the farmer finally looked down the well.
: He was astonished at what he saw. With each shovel of
: dirt that hit his back, the donkey was doing something
: amazing. He would shake it off and take a step up. As
: the farmer's neighbors continued to shovel dirt on top
: of the animal, he would shake it off and take a step
: up. Pretty soon, everyone was amazed as the donkey
: stepped up over the edge of the well and happily
: trotted off!
:
: Life is going to shovel dirt on you, all kinds of
: dirt. The trick to getting out of the well is to shake
: it off and take a step up.! Each of our troubles is a
: stepping- stone. We can get out of the deepest wells
: just by not stopping, never giving up! Shake it off
: and take a step up.
:
:
:
:
: Enough of that crap . . .
:
: The donkey later came back and bit the the
: farmer who had tried to bury him. The gash from the
: bite got infected, and the farmer eventually died in
: agony from septic shock.
:
:
:
: MORAL FROM TODAY'S LESSON:
:
: When you do something wrong and try to cover your ass,
: it always comes back to bite you.

Killing Pets
 

You should have seen it in the fifties. On certain occasions, farmers and
ranchers would load up in pickups and go rabbit hunting. Imagine 20 to
thirty pickups: 2 shooters with .22's in the back,a driver and a spotter in
the cab. The pickups spread out in a line about 100 yards apart and all
move forward together at about 5 miles an hour. Headlights on high beam.
As the rabbits run and are picked up by the headlights, they freeze and the
shooters would kill them. The spotter used the spot light to freeze those
running outside the light. Many a night 300 to 1,000 rabbits were killed.
They were left where they fell and the foxes, coyotes and vultures had a
feast.



"katysails" wrote in message
...
I drove out to Jacksboro, TX yesterday and was amazed
at the dead animals on the highway. In a hundred miles I counted 2 dead
skunks, 3 dead possums, 1 dead dog and 3 dead but unidentifiable.

When we drove through OK and the TX panhandle we saw hundreds of dead
jackrabbits...coudln't believe there could be so many dead animals on the
road...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

They were left where they fell and the foxes, coyotes and vultures had a
feast.

So the foxes, coyotes and vultures of TX are lazy louts and cannot hunt =
their own dinner? What spoiled wildlife you have.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

$5.67 for you..... a life time for a cow! Did you know the cow? Was it a
happy cow?

Happy Cows make good meat!

Anybody can BBQ a cow...... few can BBQ a happy cow!


CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I didn't buy it for no stinking cow, I bought it for myself. I paid for
it.
| It cost ME $5.67.
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Did you include the cost to the cow?
|
| CM
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| | I just bought a T-bone for $5.67.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote :
| |
| | Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Killing Pets
 

Our friends had 2 cows, they were more pets than livestock, very happy cows,
fed right, when it came time to butcher, they couldn't eat their 'pets'. We
got the one. Meat was kinda tough, chewey.

Scotty

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
$5.67 for you..... a life time for a cow! Did you know the cow? Was it
a
happy cow?

Happy Cows make good meat!

Anybody can BBQ a cow...... few can BBQ a happy cow!


CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I didn't buy it for no stinking cow, I bought it for myself. I paid for
it.
| It cost ME $5.67.
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Did you include the cost to the cow?
|
| CM
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| | I just bought a T-bone for $5.67.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote :
| |
| | Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Killing Pets
 

Then I guess they weren't fed right then, now were
they?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Scott Vernon" wrote in
message
...
: Our friends had 2 cows, they were more pets than
livestock, very happy cows,
: fed right, when it came time to butcher, they
couldn't eat their 'pets'. We
: got the one. Meat was kinda tough, chewey.
:
: Scotty
:
: "Capt. Mooron" wrote in
message
: ...
: $5.67 for you..... a life time for a cow!
Did you know the cow? Was it
: a
: happy cow?
:
: Happy Cows make good meat!
:
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happy cow!
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Killing Pets
 

Everyone ought to have windfall once in a while.
Actually it was what turned me off on hunting or killing. Have you ever
heard a wounded rabbit cry?

"katysails" wrote in message
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They were left where they fell and the foxes, coyotes and vultures had a
feast.

So the foxes, coyotes and vultures of TX are lazy louts and cannot hunt
their own dinner? What spoiled wildlife you have.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Killing Pets
 

katysails wrote:

Making an animal that is a pet go through pain like that is unkind and unnatural.

I agree but go even farther. IMHO making an animal into a pet is unkind
and unnatural in and of itself. Most would agree with the fictional
characters in Tolkein's world who abhor the evil of breeding elves into
"orcs", yet we see nothing at all evil in breeding wolves, coyotes and
foxes into creatures that cannot survive without constant human succor.
Breeding food animals to be docile and yield more meat, or taming other
predators to guard us and/or help us hunt is/was a necessity, but
breeding them into misshapen creatures that can only live on somebody's
lap and run their tongues into their keepers' mouth just to gratify that
person's unnatural emotional needs ... Oy! And they'll call me sick?

Killing Pets
 

katysails wrote:

There are choices and then there are choices. If a person does not spend the money for the euthanasia, then he will spend it for the vet. I had a client with 3 small children. The family acquired a cute fuzzy wuzzy daisy dog with an unfortunate genetic bone disease. ...

Any distaste and anger this unfortunate event elicits should be directed
at the fools who bred the cute fuzzy wuzzy daisy dog and at the
over-emotional idiots who suborned their crime by buying it. And no, it
isn't all the big breeders. Had "fuzzy" been a more healthy male, they
might have showed him til he became a "champion" then bred him and taken
"pick of the litter" in payment. Then they'd have bred him to his
daughter to recoup the $big$ they paid for him and make a profit. After
all that's what the people they got him from had done, and recommended -
and the fools before them and ... ad nauseum. That's how these horror
stories begin.

Killing Pets
 

"Pony Express" wrote in message
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Then I guess they weren't fed right then, now were
they?

Bullocks!


Regards


Donal
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Simple Simon wrote:

... However a pet is a different story. A pet is part of the family and a surrogate human ....

Can you not see the madness in that notion? Remember the farm? In my day
the cat went out to hunt rodents and the dog came in to bark intruders
come bed time. Come daylight their places reversed but their jobs stayed
the same. We loved these animals - hell I still love cattle - but we
never, ever thot of them as surrogate humans or part of the family any
more than I thot of a beloved car, bike or boat as a surrogate human.
That IS sick, and the only people I know who exhibit that illness are
demonstrably unbalanced - folks who cannot get the companionship they
seem to need naturally. A healthy man derives sufficient companionship
from friends at a pub, sports bar, et cetera, and from wife and family;
those who cannot get it thru an unnatural relationship with a pet. In
their demented minds the pet takes on the human characteristics they
yearn for until they begin to think like you. It's become so common in
our urban culture that many, divorced from nature, begin to think it
natural. It is not.

Killing Pets
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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| "Lady Pilot" wrote in message
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| Tsk, tsk. No wonder you hang on your mooring all alone with no
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| What business is it of yours?

She's concerned..... you're pathetic! You should be honoured LP takes even
a fleeting interest.

I do not desire, nor do I need the interest or the concern of some
flighty and uppity bitch.

S.Simon