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"Scott Vernon" wrote : How's that little birdie that was on your shoulder doing these days? Beautiful picture, shows CM at his best... LP |
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I can think of several examples on this newsgroup.
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Farm animals are born and bred to be used for food or by-product. Who decided that? Pigs are very smart animals. Cats and dogs are NOT! In some countries they ARE. |
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And you know this for a fact? I'm impressed that you
would admit it. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Dogs don't like the taste of faggots! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I always thought of my dog as potential food. I'm sure he thought of me in similar terms. He lived to be 17, which isn't bad for a dobie/lab mix. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Negative! What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's worse these people expect support and sympathy for their moral decriptitude. |
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After 17 years I figured he was too tough to try. Fortunately, I
buried him before RB got to him. "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ... So how did he taste? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I always thought of my dog as potential food. I'm sure he thought of me in similar terms. He lived to be 17, which isn't bad for a dobie/lab mix. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Negative! What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's worse these people expect support and sympathy for their moral decriptitude. |
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Sorry, but anybody who's a friend of Mooron's is no friend of mine . . .
S.Simon - the only true friend is a faithful cat or dog "Lady Pilot" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I got your dementia right here (as he grabs his crotch)! You are taking out your frustration on Capt. Mooron. Nothing personal, Neal... we could still be friends. You didn't say how long it takes to sail from the Bahamas to Ft. Lauderdale? LP |
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Yup... had to run Dad to the hospital... pneumonia. With him 90+ years old
it's a serious consideration. Mom has it as well. No fun. CM "Lady Pilot" wrote in message ... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | Next morning I took down 8 grouse in two shots with my12 gauge | pump..... | all tumbled dead to the ground. | | CM | | I think I'm going to faint... | | What am I doing here? | | LP ( needs to unsubscribe and wallpaper my bathroom) | | P.S. Did you take the day off, Capt. Mooron? | | LP | | |
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He probably died in the claws of a hawk..... I only just met it and
returned it to the forest when the photo was taken. It was a wild bird..... CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... | How's that little birdie that was on your shoulder doing these days? | | Scotty | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | Lead Poisoning.... a shot of Vitamin "B"..... walkin' the dawg one last | time.... | | I remember a couple of friends that had decided to save $200 bucks by | killing some unwanted kittens. I offered to do the job, but these big ole | boys decided a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.... | | About 3 hours later they staggered into the bar.... sober, pale and | lookin' | like one sorry lot. Didn't take much to find out that despite two guns | [both | wrong for the job-rifles]..... even after ten shots there were bloody | screaming kittens jumping or clawing out of the bag! They had to reload! | One | of them had tears in his eyes. They both had nightmares about bloody | screaming kittens for weeks. | | Next morning I took down 8 grouse in two shots with my12 gauge pump..... | all tumbled dead to the ground. | | CM | | "Scott Vernon" wrote in message | ... | | Donal! Here in civilized countries, we don't throw our pets into the | water | | to drown. Ugh! you're despicable. We shoot them. One clean shot to the | | brain. | | | | Scotty | | | | "Donal" wrote in message | | ... | | | | "Simple Simon" wrote in message | | ... | | | | snip | | That's not to say these animals shouldn't be treated as | | humanely as possible while being raised and dispatched | | as humanely as possible when their time comes. | | | | So, are you saying that you should pay good money to a vet to ease | their | | passage into the next world? $100 could feed an African baby for | about | | two | | years. Would it not be better to put your sick pet into a weighted | sack, | | and throw it into the river, so that you could donate the $100 to an | | African | | charity?? | | | | In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth | two | | years of life for a human?? | | | | | | | | Regards | | | | | | Donal | | -- | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message ... | Why are you doing this? | | LP (shrieking!!!) Everyone should know what a steak really costs...... CM |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message | You wouldn't take an animal on board your boat? Sure... as long as it could tail winches, hoist anchor, swab the deck.... in short carry it's fair share of the load. That ain't gonna happen with a dog or a cat. I've been known to allow deck gorillas aboard...... CM |
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And probably a colored girl or two you sicko!
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I've been known to allow deck gorillas aboard...... |
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I'm hurt Simon.... you don't consider me a friend???
CM "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... | Sorry, but anybody who's a friend of Mooron's is no friend of mine . . . | | S.Simon - the only true friend is a faithful cat or dog | | | "Lady Pilot" wrote in message ... | | "Simple Simon" wrote in message | ... | | | I got your dementia right here (as he grabs his crotch)! | | You are taking out your frustration on Capt. Mooron. | | Nothing personal, Neal... we could still be friends. | | You didn't say how long it takes to sail from the Bahamas to Ft. | Lauderdale? | | LP | | | | |
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If the girls don't have any colour before they come aboard... they will have
when they leave. That blush of satisfaction.... CM "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... | And probably a colored girl or two you sicko! | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... | | I've been known to allow deck gorillas aboard...... | | |
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You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show
compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your character. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Negative! What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's worse these people expect support and sympathy for their moral decriptitude. People move into an apartment or house where pets are not allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept obligations because it is inconvenient to do so. This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live. Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal. A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations. It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind. Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense. If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these words. S.Simon - loves and respects animals "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... The Navigator's Lament I had a kitten and I loved her so much She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch. But alas she went blind And in my warped mind A handicapped cat might never survive And I fancied her better off dead than alive. So I KILLED her . . . S.Simon - loves animals |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
Dogs don't like the taste of faggots! Why Not? Big White Tigers do! Joe RedCloud "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I always thought of my dog as potential food. I'm sure he thought of me in similar terms. He lived to be 17, which isn't bad for a dobie/lab mix. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Negative! What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's worse these people expect support and sympathy for their moral decriptitude. |
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Food. Besides, farmers don't torture the animal before they kill it, do
they? You've never visited the killing floor at a slaughterhouse, I'm = thinking. It's pretty horrible. Do you remember Clarice's soliloquy = about slaughtering the lambs in "Silence of the Lambs"? That was an = accurate portrayal. It's not nice and could be done much more humanely = but that would not be cost effective.=20 --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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One good whack! Don't imagine the
cow ever knew what hit it. Is that horrible? Except that it's one cow in 10 that gets the one stroke killing = whack....some have to be whacked repeadedly and many are hung on the = line still alive and kicking to be gutted...been there..seen that...not = nice...throw up time.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
People don't wnat to know...they want to live their nice clean = complacent lives where pain, dirt, sualor and misery never touch them = and reality is what you see on TV.... This society would be doomed if there ever was a cataclysmic event that = took away all their toys and fureblows...truly only the strong and able = would be the survivors...Neal would perish since he would not be able to = kill an animal to feed himself (yet he merrily broils pork chops on his = grill...never had a thought for the pig that donated that meat). --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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you're just
| another animal Got news for you....even though we are sapient and have cognitive = reasoning, we are animals. We are primates of the genus homo and = species sapien. Some people prefer to ignore that fact, but it is a = fact. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Sorry, but anybody who's a friend of Mooron's is no friend of mine . . .
Mooron's been my friend for quite some time now....too bad, so sad.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two years of life for a human?? It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell = (if you are able to do it...) --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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They both had nightmares about bloody
screaming kittens for weeks. And well they should have....what idiots.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Beautiful picture, shows CM at his best...
I like the other one better.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Does your cat pull it's own weight on the boat? Pets on boats.... how
lubberly can you get! Pathetic is what you are. Chopper pulls his. When we're not aboard, he barks at all usurpers and = he makes a great afghan on cold nights. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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After 17 years I figured he was too tough so I pressure cookered him....
--=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Yech...
"katysails" wrote in message ... After 17 years I figured he was too tough so I pressure cookered him.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Lady Pilot" wrote in message | You wouldn't take an animal on board your boat? Sure... as long as it could tail winches, hoist anchor, swab the deck.... in short carry it's fair share of the load. That ain't gonna happen with a dog or a cat. I've been known to allow deck gorillas aboard...... A gentleman doesn't tell. |
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A cat on board is a necessary if not sufficient component of any survival
kit. They can find food in any port in the World and will bring you nice birds, snakes, lizards, and rats so fat they would grace anyone's table. And if you are starving at sea, you can eat the cat, use its claws for hooks, its gut for line, its eyes for bait, and tie its tail to your radio ariel. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... One dog in the team one time... wouldn't pull, wouldn't wheel, wouldn't lead, fought with it's team mates.... one week later it died of a lead overdose. No tears.... Does your cat pull it's own weight on the boat? Pets on boats.... how lubberly can you get! Pathetic is what you are. CM "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... | Negative! | | What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things | that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway | toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's | worse these people expect support and sympathy for their | moral decriptitude. | | People move into an apartment or house where pets are not | allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car | along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person | who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the | pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat | so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many | excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept | obligations because it is inconvenient to do so. | | This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect | for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many | people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people | will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their | pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever | kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live. | Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal. | A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal | to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations. | | It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to | regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on | the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind. | Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever | is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is | they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals | with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense. | | If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are | worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these | words. | | S.Simon - loves and respects animals | | | "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... | Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid. | "Simple Simon" wrote in message | ... | The Navigator's Lament | | I had a kitten and I loved her so much | She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch. | But alas she went blind | And in my warped mind | A handicapped cat might never survive | And I fancied her better off dead than alive. | So I KILLED her . . . | | | | S.Simon - loves animals | | | | | | |
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Yeah, but even the Big White Tiger didn't swallow.
"Joe" wrote in message m... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Dogs don't like the taste of faggots! Why Not? Big White Tigers do! Joe RedCloud "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I always thought of my dog as potential food. I'm sure he thought of me in similar terms. He lived to be 17, which isn't bad for a dobie/lab mix. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Negative! What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's worse these people expect support and sympathy for their moral decriptitude. |
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There comes a time in most animals lives, when the quality of life is gone,
when only suffering and pain remain. Most animals reaching that point probably wish to die. I think I would. Those who care the most have an obligation to ease that suffering. The hard part is knowing when "to be" should give way to "not to be." "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your character. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Negative! What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's worse these people expect support and sympathy for their moral decriptitude. People move into an apartment or house where pets are not allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept obligations because it is inconvenient to do so. This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live. Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal. A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations. It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind. Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense. If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these words. S.Simon - loves and respects animals "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... The Navigator's Lament I had a kitten and I loved her so much She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch. But alas she went blind And in my warped mind A handicapped cat might never survive And I fancied her better off dead than alive. So I KILLED her . . . S.Simon - loves animals |
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Get it right. It's okay to kill MUSLIMS.
"Donal" wrote in message ... "Pony Express" wrote in message ink.net... and old people, and sick people , and people that are different then us . . . Iraqis are different! Simple already thinks that it is ok to kill Iraqis. Regards Donal -- |
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Now that's not funny. I drove out to Jacksboro, TX yesterday and was amazed
at the dead animals on the highway. In a hundred miles I counted 2 dead skunks, 3 dead possums, 1 dead dog and 3 dead but unidentifiable. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... When I get tired of a dog I take him out to chase balls on RT 95. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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"A man is made known by the company he keeps."
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Sorry, but anybody who's a friend of Mooron's is no friend of mine . . . S.Simon - the only true friend is a faithful cat or dog "Lady Pilot" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I got your dementia right here (as he grabs his crotch)! You are taking out your frustration on Capt. Mooron. Nothing personal, Neal... we could still be friends. You didn't say how long it takes to sail from the Bahamas to Ft. Lauderdale? LP |
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Simple Simon wrote:
Intended use is a big factor. To be considered reneging one must breach a promise - one makes no promise of sanctuary to farm animals raised for food. Then we're in complete agreement. I make no "promise" when I to buy a cat to catch mice or a dog to bark intruders so if either fails to perform then I shoot them with no more guilt than I'd have for killing a cow, pig or rabbit. Similarly, if I breathed enough carbon monoxide laden city air or did drugs til I become addle pated enough to seek a cat or dog's companionship then all Ie promised to provide is a quick death when I recover my sanity and my unnatural need ends - right? So what are you sniveling about? A couple I know went nuts when their kids flew the nest and bought dogs. Shrink says THEY need something that needs them to survive. Jeeze they even let them sleep on their bed! Can you imagine? They wouldn't let their kids do that. |
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That's because inbred red-neck texans *try* to run them over. They have a
point system and everything. SV "jlrogers" wrote in message .. . Now that's not funny. I drove out to Jacksboro, TX yesterday and was amazed at the dead animals on the highway. In a hundred miles I counted 2 dead skunks, 3 dead possums, 1 dead dog and 3 dead but unidentifiable. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... When I get tired of a dog I take him out to chase balls on RT 95. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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remember 'Ol Yellow?
"katysails" wrote Or the price of a .22 shell (if you are able to do it...) |
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You don't know your Dads' age? Oy!
"Capt. Mooron" wrote ... Yup... had to run Dad to the hospital... pneumonia. With him 90+ years old |
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Except for Bobsprit and BillyJane who are examples of a new species - homo homo.
S.Simon "katysails" wrote in message ... Got news for you....even though we are sapient and have cognitive reasoning, we are animals. We are primates of the genus homo and species sapien. Some people prefer to ignore that fact, but it is a fact. |
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Who said I could not kill an animal for food? Your assumptions are totally
incorrect and naive as usual. I can and do kill lobsters, fish, shrimp etc. for food. When I was a boy on the farm I killed chickens and turkeys, helped with butchering pigs and cows and have no regrets. A man's gotta eat. However a pet is a different story. A pet is part of the family and a surrogate human by the obligation one assumes when one accepts a pet into the family. This places the pet in a different realm than a farm animal and one must treat the pet like one would treat a member of the family. Is this so hard to understand. It's more a matter of obligations assumed at the outset and meeting those obligations. Standards assumed are standards not to be tossed aside lightly. S.Simon "katysails" wrote in message ... Everyone should know what a steak really costs...... People don't wnat to know...they want to live their nice clean complacent lives where pain, dirt, sualor and misery never touch them and reality is what you see on TV.... This society would be doomed if there ever was a cataclysmic event that took away all their toys and fureblows...truly only the strong and able would be the survivors...Neal would perish since he would not be able to kill an animal to feed himself (yet he merrily broils pork chops on his grill...never had a thought for the pig that donated that meat). -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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What's this 'put down' ****?
How people obfuscate! Using a sanitary term does not make putting down any less than the act of killiing. People kill; people die. People do not put down; people do not pass away! Let's accept reality for once. The very use of English shows the extremes people go to to deny acts and consequences. This is sickness pure! S.Simon "katysails" wrote in message ... In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two years of life for a human?? It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell (if you are able to do it...) -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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