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[email protected] September 12th 03 11:42 PM

36.7 cockpit
 
"Donal" wrote:

* * * When I heard that a [Beneteau] 36.7
was available I was quite excited. However,
when I saw it I was *very* dissappointed. The
36.7 is almost a pure racing machine. The
accommodation is [in my opinuion too small]
. . . though the cockpit is huge. * * *
I want performance, but I also want [room in
the boat] to take my family out sailing. The
33.7 has been perfect for us, and I'd really
like to find a slightly bigger version of the
same thing.


If so, why not look at the 40.7 and, if you want something (much more
than "slightly") bigger, look at the 47.7?



Donal September 13th 03 01:08 AM

Prove me Wrong!
 

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:09:52 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:

Read my post again. This time try to imagine a liberal sprinkling of
smilies!


Well put the little f***ers in! I'm good but I can't mind meld....yet.


I know that. However, I'm sure that you appreciate that I post here for
*my* amusement - and not yours! Unfortunately, that means that the
"smilies" will remain absent from my posts. You will just have to accept,
as a matter of faith, that I am taking the ****.

It's more *fun* that way.


You self flagellate too?


You should try it!

Why not? You like to feel superior, and it's no skin off my nose to say
that you are indeed superior. I'm just being sensitive to your ego's
nourishment needs.


Thanks Donal, appreciated.

BTW I got the gearbox and engine installed in the clubman.
Should be running by Monday. That's gonna stroke my ego real good.


That is indeed truly excellent. I really look forward to your new,
"expanded", Ego!



Regards

Donal
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Donal September 13th 03 01:27 AM

36.7 cockpit
 

wrote in message
...
"Donal" wrote:

* * * When I heard that a [Beneteau] 36.7
was available I was quite excited. However,
when I saw it I was *very* dissappointed. The
36.7 is almost a pure racing machine. The
accommodation is [in my opinuion too small]
. . . though the cockpit is huge. * * *
I want performance, but I also want [room in
the boat] to take my family out sailing. The
33.7 has been perfect for us, and I'd really
like to find a slightly bigger version of the
same thing.


If so, why not look at the 40.7 and, if you want something (much more
than "slightly") bigger, look at the 47.7?


The 47.7 makes me slaver at the lips! Unfortunately, it is really too big
for a "family" boat. The keel is also too deep for cruising in my area.
However, every time that I go on one, I really want to sail the thing. If I
was as rich as Oz, then I would own a 47.7, and I would use it on "boy's"
weekends. I love the cockpit! I love the cabin! It just wouldn't be very
practical for us.


The 40.7 doesn't turn me on quite so much because it offers no more
accommodation than the 33.7. The 40.7 (IMHO) wastes all of the extra length
in pursuit of speed. The big wheel means that the interior space stops
about 5 feet from the stern. If you look at the interior dimensions, then
you will see that it offers very little more than the 33.7.

There are some 42s7's around, and they might prove to be a suitable upgrade
path for us.


Regards


Donal
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Donal September 13th 03 01:36 AM

36.7 cockpit
 

"Michael Olsen" wrote in message
.net...
That's interesting about the 36.7 cockpit. I had heard the opinion

expressed
that for a racer its cockpit was too small...


I'm not a racer. I like to sail fast, but I sail with my family. My wife
likes "comfort", although she is a much better sailor than many wives. The
33.7 is a good compromise for us, but the 36.7 wouldn't be. It really is a
case of "different strokes for different folks".

Many people in my sailing club have managed to put their wives off sailing
by taking them out in inappropriate conditions. I am lucky that my wife
will sail with me. I intend to keep it that way. That means that I have to
moderate my choice of boat, as well as the weather conditions that we sail
in!


Regards


Donal
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John Cairns September 13th 03 04:38 AM

36.7 cockpit
 
You can't have it both ways. Hard to tell how small the cockpit is, cruisers
might object, but racers shouldn't have a problem. You don't want your crew
hanging out there when racing, you want them on the rail, not dragging down
the ass end of the boat..Unless the thing is so small you can't work 3 at a
time back there it should be fine.
John Cairns
"Michael Olsen" wrote in message
.net...
That's interesting about the 36.7 cockpit. I had heard the opinion

expressed
that for a racer its cockpit was too small...

For example, this review:
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/review...neteau36_7.htm

Michael












"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Michael Olsen" wrote in message
.net...
why'd you nix the first 36.7?


Every boat represents a compromise of some sort. The easiest

compromise
to
spot is between cruisers and racers.

A cruising boat will tend to have a bigger cabin. A pure racing boat

will
have a big cockpit and a small(if any) cabin.

The 33.7 has very nice accomodation below decks, and yet she performs

well.
When I heard that a 36.7 was available I was quite excited. However,

when
I saw it I was *very* dissappointed. The 36.7 is almost a pure racing
machine. The accommodation is no bigger than the 33.7's, because the
cockpit extends into the space that could be occupied by the cabin. The
unusual tiller means that a family could not relax in the cockpit, even
though the cockpit is huge.

It all depends on what you want from a boat. I want performance, but I
also want to take my family out sailing. The 33.7 has been perfect for

us,
and I'd really like to find a slightly bigger version of the same thing.


Does that answer your question? (if it doesn't, then ask again!)



Regards


Donal
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Bertie the Bunyip September 13th 03 12:40 PM

Prove me Wrong!
 
"Donal" wrote in
:


"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...

Ooooh Touchy little devil!!


Read my post again. This time try to imagine a liberal sprinkling of
smilies!


Funny, every time I read one of your posts I imagine a liberal sprinkling
of something or another alright...

Bertie

Donal September 14th 03 12:31 AM

Prove me Wrong!
 

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:08:06 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


You should try it!


Nah, I prefer to pay people for that pleasure.


I thought that you were happily married??

BTW. When I got married, I took an oath. ... I swore that I would remain
faithful "until the day that I die".

I would consider myself to be a liar, if I were unfaithful. I assume that
ex-coppers are exempt from keeping their word?? Or, is it possible that
Australian coppers can be considered "honest" even when they break their
marriage vows?

I'm reminded of a famous phrase - "A man is only as good as his word."


I'm as good as my word. Are you?

Regards


Donal
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Bertie the Bunyip September 14th 03 01:06 AM

Prove me Wrong!
 
"Donal" wrote in
:


"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:08:06 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


You should try it!


Nah, I prefer to pay people for that pleasure.


I thought that you were happily married??

BTW. When I got married, I took an oath. ... I swore that I would
remain faithful "until the day that I die".

I would consider myself to be a liar, if I were unfaithful. I assume
that ex-coppers are exempt from keeping their word?? Or, is it
possible that Australian coppers can be considered "honest" even when
they break their marriage vows?

I'm reminded of a famous phrase - "A man is only as good as his word."


I'm as good as my word.


You must be pretty crap then. Defector.

Bertei

Donal September 14th 03 11:43 PM

Prove me Wrong!
 

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 00:31:46 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:08:06 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


You should try it!

Nah, I prefer to pay people for that pleasure.


I thought that you were happily married??


Umm Donal, the word was flagellate........


Yeah! I know.

I'm sure that your wife would flagellate you if you asked nicely.




BTW. When I got married, I took an oath. ... I swore that I would

remain
faithful "until the day that I die".

I would consider myself to be a liar, if I were unfaithful. I assume

that
ex-coppers are exempt from keeping their word?? Or, is it possible that
Australian coppers can be considered "honest" even when they break their
marriage vows?


What has this got to do with your inability to undersatnd your native
tongue?



Nothing at all. I assumed that you took an oath when you married your
first wife. I also assume that screwing another woman was a breach of that
oath. In other words, you are a liar.

I may well be mistaken - and please correct me if I am!

When I got married I "foresake"'d all others. I swore that I would be
"faithful". I took an oath. Didn't you?

You've admitted that you were unfaithful, therefore - it seems that your
word is worthless.

Regards

Donal
--




I'm reminded of a famous phrase - "A man is only as good as his word."


I'm as good as my word. Are you?


Donal, you're an idiot.
You do realise that don't you?

Regards


Donal




Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Donal September 15th 03 11:23 PM

Prove me Wrong!
 

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:43:13 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:

You've admitted that you were unfaithful, therefore - it seems that your
word is worthless.


Whaaaaat?
Donal, you're hallucinating again.


Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought that you said that your first marriage broke
up because you inherited your father's "wanderlust".

Are you saying that you were never unfaithful to your first wife?



I suggest you try and get your personal fantasies under control before
it leads to a total break with reality.

Did I mention that the overhead showers are each controlled
seperately, and the others have their own control?
All thermostatic so temperature stays exactly as set and are
connected to a continuous flow water heater so we can stay in the
shower as long as we wish.


It seems like a huge extravagance! How often do Australian men take a
shower, anyway?

Regards

Donal





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