There are numerous Coronado 27's that have circumnavigated.
"Cut the Mustard" will be among them one of these days.

This is a LIE. And a dangerous one. There is a record of a Catalina 27 doing
this after MAJOR mods.
Capt Neal and his Coronado 27 will NEVER circumnavigate, unless it's on
containerships!

RB

Look at the capsize ratio charts for your average cruising cat.

What do you see? An angle of fifty or sixty degrees or less.
Bwahahahahahha!

You idiot!
Do you have any idea what it takes to get a cruising cat to those
angles?

jeff, why waste time kicking the poor old fool. How would he know anything
about cruising cats? The poor guy snapped his boom in half, then glued it back
together, trippling it's weight! This was his solution to simply finding a
properly made boom.
The worst thing I've heard about Cruising cats is from a friend who's delivered
a few over the Atlantic. He says their motion in poor conditions can be very
hard on the crew compared to a good mono.
Given the type of sailing that 95% of us do, a Cat can make a lot of sense,
especially when enjoying more than one type of vessel in a lifetime of sailing.
I expect I'll own a Cat in between future boats...but I think my last boats
will be monos.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
mono.
Given the type of sailing that 95% of us do, a Cat can make a lot of sense,
especially when enjoying more than one type of vessel in a lifetime of sailing.
I expect I'll own a Cat in between future boats...but I think my last boats
will be monos.

I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

S.Simon

I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

Why warp the truth? Are you sooo angry about your tired boat?
A cat like Jeff's is fantastic for his usage and would be damn good for yours
as well!

RB

I sailed in company with a PDQ of the same size Jeff sails on
the Sea of Abaco between Green Turtle Cay and Marsh Harbour.

It was a beat and that crummy cat could not point worth a
damn. I swear I had twenty degrees to weather good on his
best efforts. I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

Those cruising cats simply won't go to weather.

S.Simon - the one and only.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

Why warp the truth? Are you sooo angry about your tired boat?
A cat like Jeff's is fantastic for his usage and would be damn good for yours
as well!

RB

I sailed in company with a PDQ of the same size Jeff sails on
the Sea of Abaco between Green Turtle Cay and Marsh Harbour.

That's a good story, Neal. But does not match what I've read. As you know, the
boat will only sail as well as the person piloting her.

RB

I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

And then he had a wonderful comfortable evening on his boat, while you were
stuffed into your cubby like a swollen sardine.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

And then he had a wonderful comfortable evening on his boat, while you were
stuffed into your cubby like a swollen sardine.


. . . and having to listen to and smell the exhaust from his
stupid generator. If you can't do without a generator you
should stay at home on the grid and leave us real sailors in
peace.

S.Simon

That was almost undoubtedly one of Mike's charter boats from SailAbaco.
http://www.sailabaco.net/
You were probably racing someone who had never been on a cat until the day before.
Footing off was not a bad tactic for the cat, as he should have increased speed more than
enough to compensate - though 20 degrees sounds like a lot. However, you're talking about
a beat of about 25 miles in effectively a narrow channel - its takes a fair amount of work
to get the most out of cat in those conditions.

Even if your 15 minute margin was real, its not very significant. Frankly, since we've
had this performance discussion twice recently and you suddenly "remembered" this
incident, its pretty obvious that you're just making it up!

If you really want upwind performance, the PDQ 36 Express had twin daggerboards, 29% more
sail area, and weighs more than a ton less.




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I sailed in company with a PDQ of the same size Jeff sails on
the Sea of Abaco between Green Turtle Cay and Marsh Harbour.

It was a beat and that crummy cat could not point worth a
damn. I swear I had twenty degrees to weather good on his
best efforts. I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

Those cruising cats simply won't go to weather.

S.Simon - the one and only.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

Why warp the truth? Are you sooo angry about your tired boat?
A cat like Jeff's is fantastic for his usage and would be damn good for yours
as well!

RB

Even if your 15 minute margin was real, its not very significant. Frankly,
since we've
had this performance discussion twice recently and you suddenly "remembered"
this
incident, its pretty obvious that you're just making it up!

Of course he's making it up! He JUST remembered it after months of bashing
cats! What a fool.

RB