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Jeff Morris September 4th 03 10:38 PM

shopping pains
 
Oh, right. Please tell us what monohull with a 3 foot draft goes to weather better than
my boat. remeber, it has to have three staterooms with queen size bunks!

Simple Simon wrote:
"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...

Real cruisers stop by because they know my fridge is twice as large!
But I'm often anchored close to shore since a three foot draft
allows me to go where most monohulls only dream of.


How about paying more attention to going where
three-foot-draft monohulls can only dream of going
- like to weather?

He he!

S.Simon.




Donal September 4th 03 11:06 PM

shopping pains
 

"NH_/)_" wrote in message
...
Good Points given thanks......
lessons and charters are in order, until we get some
seasoned experience before we try deep waters


If you have a reasonable amount of experience, then choosing your boat
should be a bit like buying a home. You will walk onto a boat, and get that
"fits like a glove" feeling. Make sure that she sails like you want her to.


If you are still not sure whether you want a mono- or multihull, then I
would guess that you either need more sailing experience. Alternatively,
you could buy a much cheaper boat than you are presently considering. After
a season, or two, you will have a much better idea of what you really want.

Marinas are filled with expensive boats that never get sailed. The boat
next to mine hasn't left her berth for the last three years!




Regards


Donal
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Donal September 4th 03 11:09 PM

shopping pains
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Get a folding trimaran like the Corsair. Then you can use one slip.
They're still expensive. However, the tris are faster than cats and
they point higher. You can also haul them behind a car if you need
to...


All the folding tri's that I have seen have lousy accommodation. The centre
hull tends to be much narrower than a mono, and the outer hulls have no
accommodation at all. They seem a bit "specialist" to me.


Regards


Donal
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Donal September 4th 03 11:13 PM

shopping pains
 

"NH_/)_" wrote in message
...
Down side

1 Costs are high
the one we are looking at costs 300K
we only have 140K right now so we have to
wait for the trust to come available.


Why not ask Oz for some money? He has loads!

Perhaps you already know a bent cop who has a surplus of cash??


Regards


Donal
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Simple Simon September 4th 03 11:26 PM

shopping pains
 
True Captains don't abide junk. Those big, ugly cruising
catamarans are the SUVs of the boating world. They
even roll over like an SUV. They are not worthy to even
be considered ocean-going boats. They are for partying
at the dock and for motoring around and occasionally
sailing in sheltered or coastal waters.

S.Simon - the one and only


"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:12:59 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Only women and girly men are interested in Catamarans.

(Sorry Per!)

S.Simon - a Captain who knows multihulls are not real boats


A true captain is aware and open minded, able to assess situations as
they develop


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Simple Simon September 4th 03 11:34 PM

shopping pains
 

There's no correlation. There are probably about five percent
or less multi-hulls cruising the oceans of the world. Raw numbers
would make it seem that monohulls suffered more losses but if
one works the percentages it is easy to see that catamarans
are much much more dangerous. They are a gimmick, a fad,
an offshoot from the charter trade where people could care
less about sailing. People who charter big cats only want
room to party, refrigeration and freezers so they can stuff
their faces with food they cooked in their 'gourmet galleys".

They'd be far better of on a cruise ship, for gawd's sake.

S.Simon - a Captain who knows cruising


"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:17:30 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

How do you know about the ones that were lost at sea and never
reported? I thought 'assumptions should not be made of the basis
of scanty information'.

S.Simon


Jesus Cappy you really have lost touch with reality.

Start counting the number on monos lost without trace.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





katysails September 4th 03 11:38 PM

shopping pains
 
Whaaaaat!
You've actually seen a folding tri folded in its slip?
They have no keel and will just fall over.

Guy who used to have a Corsair at the former marina left it partly =
folded...had to rasie the amas to get past the mooring posts..once in =
he'd let her stretch out a bit,. Looked like a Klingon Bird of Prey =
sitting there partially folded....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Simple Simon September 4th 03 11:58 PM

shopping pains
 
If I want three suites and queen-sized bed I'll go to
Motel 8.

I've got three and a half feet of draft and I'll race
you to weather in a good blow on open water any
time and I'll point higher than you.

S.Simon


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
Oh, right. Please tell us what monohull with a 3 foot draft goes to weather better than
my boat. remeber, it has to have three staterooms with queen size bunks!

Simple Simon wrote:
"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...

Real cruisers stop by because they know my fridge is twice as large!
But I'm often anchored close to shore since a three foot draft
allows me to go where most monohulls only dream of.


How about paying more attention to going where
three-foot-draft monohulls can only dream of going
- like to weather?

He he!

S.Simon.






Simple Simon September 5th 03 12:01 AM

shopping pains
 
Huh? Whatta you do about the cooling water intakes
for your refrigerator/freezer and air-conditioning let alone
the genset that runs that crap?

S.Simon


"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...

Actually its the exact opposite
Because of the shallow draft you can go much further in than a mono
and anchor in more sheltered water. Hell if you know the bottom you
can even go in far enough for her to dry out at low tide.




Simple Simon September 5th 03 12:04 AM

shopping pains
 
All it takes is realism and common sense.

Given ocean miles traveled . . .

Fact: Cats capsize more often than monos
Fact: Cats stay upside down more often than monos

Who needs that"

S.Simon



"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:34:11 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:


There's no correlation. There are probably about five percent
or less multi-hulls cruising the oceans of the world. Raw numbers
would make it seem that monohulls suffered more losses but if
one works the percentages it is easy to see that catamarans
are much much more dangerous. They are a gimmick, a fad,
an offshoot from the charter trade where people could care
less about sailing. People who charter big cats only want
room to party, refrigeration and freezers so they can stuff
their faces with food they cooked in their 'gourmet galleys".

They'd be far better of on a cruise ship, for gawd's sake.

S.Simon - a Captain who knows cruising


You're talking thru your hat.....again!

Do me a favour, before you broach the subject again do some research
on the multis lost in recent years....after the designs were sorted.
Remember Cappy they haven't been around all that long.

You're relying on bar talk and rumour, you have absolutely no basis
for the BS you've trotted out.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.






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