Simple Simon wrote:
That sail probably has 12 or 13 thousand miles on it.


Read: It was sewn in Thailand and has sat on the boom ever since.

Ah, so you're a stupid pimp.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:56:07 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

So, you're a pimp. Ok. I get it.

You jealous?

But I'm not. I don't take any of their money.


"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:33:45 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

Depends upon whom one marries. Loco and Stevie,
for example, have wives who are a financial liability
as well as a blow their dignity while your beautiful
woman not only looks sexy and fine but makes
good money.

I am immensely lucky that both of my fiances, and my girlfriend make
lots of money.




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Actually he wouldn't... he can't get his up.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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It sounds gay.

You would know!

RB

Sure, but it's kind of hard to see the battens in this picture...

http://www.sailnow.com/sail/my_boat.html

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:57:06 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Yes you can. I had them on my previous boat. It was a 16 foot
trimaran. It had vertical battens, and the main furled on the mast.

Vertical battens? Got any pics?

It sounds gay.




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Jeff Morris wrote:

There are several solutions like Batt-cars and the Strong track that allow the main to go
up and down very easily. Add a Dutchman system, or a StackPak (too bad you can't do both)
and you have something that's very easy and not more complicated than a normal system.

There's a 38 footer with a Dutchman flaking system on her mainsail in our marina. From
watching it in action, I'd prefer the StackPak.

Full length battens, lazy jacks, and a solid vang make the easiest handling sail so far
devised. If you want to back up one level of technology, a junk rig is the way to go... except
that I have never personally seen a junk rigged boat with decent performance under sail... the
junk rig junkies all swear it can be done though.

The one large benefit of the vertical roller furling main is that it can be reefed or furled
on any point of sail. To douse a full batten main with lazy jacks, you need to bring the wind
forward of the beam. In my experience the easiest point of sail in heavy weather is to bring
the wind & wave just forward of the beam, using a preventer & the main sheet to lock the boom
in place as firmly as possible. It's an added step but it seems to save time in conditions
where you spend much of your energy hanging on and trying to keep your head above water.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Jeff,

I'll go with the stackpac but you can have my share of the "Dutchman"
They let the sail go up and down OK but other than that they're a PITA.
Sailcovers, boom position, lines in the sail trim, etc.

My Lazy Jack pull up to the mast and the boom when sails are trimmed.
They take a Std Sailcover and can be in place in an ease condition in
biulding wind to make reefing easy

Over all, I think a well thought out 'Jack System is pretty hard to
beat.

OT

No, noooo, he doesn't consider his 75% cut to be "their" money.
Scout


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
Ah, so you're a stupid pimp.

"Horvath" wrote
I don't take any of their money.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:03:22 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Actually he wouldn't... he can't get his up.

How do you know?




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It's pretty obvious.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:03:22 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Actually he wouldn't... he can't get his up.

How do you know?




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Hero,

I've seen in-mast mains with roaches using vertical battens. I don't
know anything about them.

My first thought was about controlling twist? I've never discussed this
with someone who has used them.

There is a Schooner rigged boat out of Friday Harbor out here, who has
converted all his sails to wind-ups and seems very happy. They aren't
in mast furling. He has set up furlers behind the masts. He has control
of all his sails from the cockpit.

He does mostly single handing and it gives him a lot of options on sail
combinations

Ole Thom