"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
.. .
Most of what you say makes sense, but I don't see why you said that a mast
furled main would have limited roach.
If it was boom furled, that would be another story.


Please bear in mind my limited experience when reading my response.

AFAIK, most mast furling systems do not have any roach because the battens
would foul. Most sails with a roach need battens to support the leach.


I would have thought that it was easier to have battens on a boom furling
system.


The Barvaria that I sailed had no roach at all. I believe that the boat was
designed with a standard mainsail in mind. The result was that the mainsail
was too small - either because the mast, or boom, was too short.



Regards


Donal
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"Frank and Ronnie Maier" wrote in message
m...
(Bobsprit) wrote:
For a cruising boat 35-40 feet, how much performance is lost with an
in-mast
mainsail furling system. What are the specific losses.

Well, hell; since no one is replying seriously,

Jeeeze. I did my best!

Don't be so contemptuous.



Regards


Donal
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DSK wrote:
(Bobsprit) wrote:
For a cruising boat 35-40 feet, how much performance is lost with an in-mast
mainsail furling system. What are the specific losses.

Frank and Ronnie Maier wrote:
Well, hell; since no one is replying seriously

Well, look who's asking.

Yeah, I know; but given the recent x-posting infestation, he seems
(almost) acceptable. Shudder! I can't believe I really said that.

Nice to hear from an expert. Pity that the owners of 'Northern Light'
don't agree. They know a lot more than you do and have sailed a lot
further.

PDW

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:22:09 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Just like wind-up headsails, the major loss is in
reliability. Also, there is a loss in safety. Then
there is the loss of money. Finally there is the
loss in dignity.

Don't even THINK about wind-ups.

Keep it simple, keep it seamanlike.




"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
For a cruising boat 35-40 feet, how much performance is lost with an in-mast
mainsail furling system. What are the specific losses.

Thanks for any info.

RB

Thanks for all of the replies. The person who's thinking of a in mast system is
elderly and has a bad hand. He was actually looking at an electric furling
system retrofitted to a Cal 35. I've printed the non-troll answers for him.

Thanks again,

RB

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:33:45 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

Depends upon whom one marries. Loco and Stevie,
for example, have wives who are a financial liability
as well as a blow their dignity while your beautiful
woman not only looks sexy and fine but makes
good money.

I am immensely lucky that both of my fiances, and my girlfriend make
lots of money.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:30:37 -0400, "Steve Thomas"
wrote this crap:

Most of what you say makes sense, but I don't see why you said that a mast
furled main would have limited roach.

You can't have battens on a roller furling main.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:10:18 +1000, The Captains Master wrote:

On 13 Aug 2003 01:01:32 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Thanks for all of the replies. The person who's thinking of a in mast system is
elderly and has a bad hand. He was actually looking at an electric furling
system retrofitted to a Cal 35. I've printed the non-troll answers for him.

Thanks again,

RB

Well if you had stated that in the first instance you might have more
sensible replies!

Smacks of another troll Bubbles.

Yeah, what I thought.

Get the book 'Time on Ice' be Rolf Bjelke and Deb Shapiro. They
converted to in-mast roller furling and did a lot of heavy weather
sailing including Palmer Peninsula. The book was published in 1991
(IIRC). They're in Hobart at the moment, still have the Selden in-mast
furling gear. I've had a good look at their yacht - a Moitessier
'Joshua' hull. Nice cruising boat.

Personally I wouldn't do it - more things to go wrong and a real bitch
to fix. Also expensive. However, Deb Shapiro isn't very big/strong
(her admission) and the roller furling means she can handle the sails
without calling the off-watch person to help.

Peter Wiley

"Donal" wrote:
"Frank and Ronnie Maier" wrote:
(Bobsprit) wrote:
For a cruising boat 35-40 feet, how much performance is lost with an
in-mast
mainsail furling system. What are the specific losses.

Well, hell; since no one is replying seriously,

Jeeeze. I did my best!
Don't be so contemptuous.

Sorry.

My personal time delay between posting and reading is to blame. When I
composed my post I had only seen a couple of the usual "You suck!"
"No! You suck!" posts. After I posted I saw that there had then been
several realistic answers.

Next time I'll just follow my usual practice of lurking while the
regulars sort it out.

Frank

On 13 Aug 2003 01:20:20 GMT, Horvath wrote:

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:30:37 -0400, "Steve Thomas"
wrote this crap:


You can't have battens on a roller furling main.



..
I have a Hunter 426 DS on my right with the FurlBoom with full battens
and a Hunter 356 on my left with a Seldon in mast furler and the Doyle
Swing Batten Main