"By the way, Donal," an internet opera, in which Boobs and Jeff battle
to show who knows less about sailing. Donal, the namesake of the
thread, sits calmly by, stirring the pot ever so gently as he holds his
nose and grins. T J Fletchen takes notes. Jonathan slyly slips in
proof that neither Jeff nor Boobs has any conception of wind force or
sea state. O'le Thom congratulates Jonathan on his double kill. Both
Jeff and Boobs crab sideways, exiting stage left.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Force 9 conditions is more properly called a gale or strong gale. Most
"sailors" consider anything about force 6 to be somewhat challenging.
This past
sunday we sailed in Force 7 and maybe Force 8 for a bit.
More than you could handle. But I suppose you call anything above
force 5 heavy
air right up to force 12!!

But I'm sure you can quickly conjure up a story of how you were in
this storm
or that! And some folks here will believe you!

Bwahahahha!

Bob. you cannot get off the hook that easily. Once again, here are *your*
words.

"Winds were challenging
to say the least, blowing 20-25 and gusting well above 30 to perhaps 35.

What hook is that, Donal!!!?? I already said I stand by that comment!

Bwahahahaaha! Dig, boy, dig!

RB

So, stranger, why don't you give us the benefit of your experience?

What do you sail, and do you find F5 to be challenging?



-jeff www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup at the
deli."

p.s. I thought I was stirring the pot for Donal and RB, and while Ganz's link was fun, it
didn't contradict anything Donal or I was saying.



"Monty" wrote in message
...
"By the way, Donal," an internet opera, in which Boobs and Jeff battle
to show who knows less about sailing. Donal, the namesake of the
thread, sits calmly by, stirring the pot ever so gently as he holds his
nose and grins. T J Fletchen takes notes. Jonathan slyly slips in
proof that neither Jeff nor Boobs has any conception of wind force or
sea state. O'le Thom congratulates Jonathan on his double kill. Both
Jeff and Boobs crab sideways, exiting stage left.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Force 9 conditions is more properly called a gale or strong gale. Most
"sailors" consider anything about force 6 to be somewhat challenging.
This past
sunday we sailed in Force 7 and maybe Force 8 for a bit.
More than you could handle. But I suppose you call anything above
force 5 heavy
air right up to force 12!!

But I'm sure you can quickly conjure up a story of how you were in
this storm
or that! And some folks here will believe you!

Bwahahahha!

So, stranger, why don't you give us the benefit of your experien

That's no stranger and he doesn't own a boat.

RB

Or in the SF bay in the Summer.

wrote in message
...
On 07 Aug 2003 12:19:02 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Try getting some sailing instruction and
those sub-30k winds may not be so challenging.

So you're saying that 25-30 knots of wind should not be called
"challenging?"
Just want to know, cuz every sailing text seems to agree with me on the
term.


Those winds would be challenging for someone with limited sailing
experience, even in fairly well protected waters, such as the LIS. For
some people, 25 - 30 knots is an ordinary day. Try sailing in the LIS
this winter, and you'll gain some perspective. Be sure to take someone
who is experienced.

BB

I would never doubt you.

"Donal" wrote in message
...
Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I think you're both wrong:

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/webpage/beaufort/



THey seem to have copied their data from this page:-
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/educati.../beaufort.html which is
about the history of the beaufort scale.

The current beaufort scale is available at the same site.
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/educati.../beaufort.html


As you can see, I was correct and Bobsprit was incorrect - as always!!


Here are a couple of others, in case you still doubt me.
http://www.r-p-r.co.uk/beaufort.htm

http://www.zetnet.co.uk/sigs/weather...s/beaufort.htm

Regards


Donal
--

I thought they would have been when that fat woman stepped
on the boat. She rivaled him.

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
The biggest waves Booby sees are those he makes when he steps on the boat.

Cheers MC

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Also, it's not just about wind speed. In protected waters, the
scale doesn't apply as directly as it does offshore. It's also
about wave heights and behavior.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Force 9 conditions is more properly called a gale or strong gale. Most
"sailors" consider anything about force 6 to be somewhat challenging.
This

past

sunday we sailed in Force 7 and maybe Force 8 for a bit.
More than you could handle. But I suppose you call anything above force
5

heavy

air right up to force 12!!

But I'm sure you can quickly conjure up a story of how you were in this

storm

or that! And some folks here will believe you!

Bwahahahha!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob. you cannot get off the hook that easily. Once again, here are *your*
words.

"Winds were challenging
to say the least, blowing 20-25 and gusting well above 30 to perhaps 35.


What hook is that, Donal!!!?? I already said I stand by that comment!


Well, try to keep the higher wind speeds out of your posts. You are
constantly talking about winds 25-30 kts, when the wind was 20-25 kts.

As I've said before, most sailors of boats like ours, would find 20-25
kts -along with the attendant 30kt gusts- to be good sailing. Your original
post sounded like you were a bit frightened by an F5 wind. You sounded as
if you were seeking respect for the courage that you displayed by going out.

It really doesn't matter how much you wriggle. You may try to pretend that
everybody misinterpreted the nervousness that was so evident in your
original post. Wimp!


Regards


Donal
--

Well, try to keep the higher wind speeds out of your posts. You are
constantly talking about winds 25-30 kts, when the wind was 20-25 kts.

The wind was reported above 20-25. Even Marc observed that the winds increased,
and even more so after an hour of sailing.

Marc wrote:
The wind was gusting over 25 kn from the S/W, the sky was a deep blue
with storm clouds building in the west and there was a 3 to 4' short
chop with blowing whitecaps and an ebbing current.

Following this he wrote:
While waiting, the wind picked up to such an extent that I
had to furl the deck umbrella I was sitting under and the storm clouds
began to cover 3/4 of the sky

Wait, it gets worse for Donal. Michael Olson wrote:
No question about it. The wind was gusty. I was out near Huntington Bay at
4.30 and we hit 31 knot winds true south-southwest. Apparent reached 38.

So much for 20-25 knots!

Busted again!!! Bwahahahaha!

RB

It is a challenge for me to get out of bed every day. It is a
challenge to walk to the bathroom. It is a big challenge to take a
dump and get off the potty. And a big challenge to make breakfast,
but not to eat it. My life is one big challenge after another. I NEED
HELP!

RB