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BERTIE ALERT
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in
: Well, don't give JL too much credit. It was pretty easy to out that Gary/Bunny fag. Oh God, this is just toooo funnny! I think I'll actualy try a few socks suing some spare serevers just for fun now! They'll be jumping on everyone that pops their head in! Bertie "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... Thank you for all that jl. Most illuminating. FT jlrogers wrote: Sorry Wally, I posted my reply to your message to Jeff. Here it is. First, if you parse the header of the original message, you will find it is incomplete. That's the first clue. Second is the "... information for POC handle ZM117-ARIN has been reported to be invalid." Third is all of the "sprint-gw.dlstx.ip.att.net bogus rDNS: host not found" messages. Using the info returned and shown below, you can trace addresses, "finger" servers, run Reverse DNS lookups, and follow any route. You can find out a lot. All of it perfectly common and legal. You can trace from one IP address to another and even query the machines for what services the machines have available and then use those services. Be warned though, if you're clumsy, you can bring down a poorly configured server or just waste the bandwidth of the server at critical times for the owners! Practice on your own network. If you are really interested, download "Sam Spade http://www.samspade.org/ssw/ and play with it (free). I used it to trace Bertie to databasix.com, then fingered the server to find out who it belonged to. I then pinged all his IP addresses to see which ones were on line and identified the IP address of his computer (or at least the one the message came from). I quit there. I could have scanned all the ports on all the machines on his network to see if any were open. And if I found an open port or could tease one open, or flood one etc. etc. I could have "made requests." However, while knocking on the port and making requests is not illegal, forcing a port is. If you are an Intermediate, get "What'sup Gold" free thirty day trial from: http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/net...anagement.html What's Up will draw you a diagram from your computer to any address you like, show all the servers and devices along the path and tell you far more than you want to know. If you have the time, you can map the entire internet (some exaggeration for effect). You will quickly learn how to use telephone numbers and registrations to learn the geographical location of a particular device if it isn't in the log. The email addresses of server operators are often available and you can email them if you hit a snag at their server. It is not very hard stuff, but there is so much of it that it takes time to "get it." Finding Bertie is easy only because he is lazy. He has his own ISP and likes to use it. I am sure that he can attack us and be "almost untraceable" if he wants to take the time to do so, and isn't concerned with . That is, with a little work, he could make it a lot of work to track him down and pin it on him. That's what he does. And he is good at it. If any one gets really ****ed and goes after Bertie (Gary Burnore), he seems to just move on until things cool down. However, whenever you take on one of these guys you have to be damned careful. Some of them are vicious and will retaliate. Shields up! (I set up my sniffer after I clashed with him, and I copied my stuff to a friend of mine at my ISP just in case.) UU.NET is host to thousands of spammers and cranks. They have only 41 employees to handle both mail and newsgroup abuse complaints. I called and talked to one of their wiennies and just asked him if he was familiar with databasix.com. He started laughing and yelled out to the room, "Hey this guy want's to know if we know Burnmore!" "Wally" wrote in message ... "jlrogers" wrote in message news:ZNMXa.1436 Do a trace and you'll find the header is forged and so is the routing. Which header is forged? The IP traces to Comcast, which consistent with other headers. How do you know 'the header' is forged, and how did you find out? It came from N. Carolina via MA. Please show how this is so. -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk |
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BERTIE ALERT
On 8 Aug 2003 06:36:47 GMT I replied to Bertie the Bunyip
on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Hey jagoff! Trace me! Betcha can't! I challenged them to do that for me as well, they couldn't |
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BERTIE ALERT
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:53:51 +0000 (UTC) I replied to Bertie the
Bunyip on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Just Plain Insane wrote in : On 8 Aug 2003 06:36:47 GMT I replied to Bertie the Bunyip on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Hey jagoff! Trace me! Betcha can't! I challenged them to do that for me as well, they couldn't I had a guy in another newsgroup trace me to his own house once. No ****! Even funnier was that his ISP was almost as clueless as he was. My toy's name was Greg olsen and you can find him in the mn.* froups, but I can't remember the name of his provider. Bertie Probably USWest, they are the prevalent MN ISP right now. I'm waiting for one of these turds to do more slobber like a baby. |
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BERTIE ALERT
Just Plain Insane wrote in
: On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:53:51 +0000 (UTC) I replied to Bertie the Bunyip on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Just Plain Insane wrote in m: On 8 Aug 2003 06:36:47 GMT I replied to Bertie the Bunyip on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Hey jagoff! Trace me! Betcha can't! I challenged them to do that for me as well, they couldn't I had a guy in another newsgroup trace me to his own house once. No ****! Even funnier was that his ISP was almost as clueless as he was. My toy's name was Greg olsen and you can find him in the mn.* froups, but I can't remember the name of his provider. Bertie Probably USWest, they are the prevalent MN ISP right now. I'm waiting for one of these turds to do more slobber like a baby. Nah, as far as I could tell it was some guy operating out of his parent's basement. The guy who was trying to track me down on behalf of the ISP seemed to be the owner. Bertie |
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BERTIE ALERT
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:32:23 +0000 (UTC), a team of surgeons from
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip: The_navigator© wrote in news:bgn4k9$qjh6a$4@ID- 58816.news.uni-berlin.de: Hmmm. I don't think so. The IP is a different domain -right? Jesus Christ. You guys are going to be the death of me. I think I just ripped a lung laughing! They're gonna report you to your TCP soon. -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 Talk to me in Google Groups! http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.fan.pjr |
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BERTIE ALERT
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:43:58 -0500, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Just Plain Insane: On 8 Aug 2003 06:36:47 GMT I replied to Bertie the Bunyip on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Hey jagoff! Trace me! Betcha can't! I challenged them to do that for me as well, they couldn't I'm going to give them one of my IP numbers soon. -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 Talk to me in Google Groups! http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.fan.pjr |
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BERTIE ALERT
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 06:30:40 +0100 I replied to Peter J Ross
on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:32:23 +0000 (UTC), a team of surgeons from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip: The_navigator© wrote in news:bgn4k9$qjh6a$4@ID- 58816.news.uni-berlin.de: Hmmm. I don't think so. The IP is a different domain -right? Jesus Christ. You guys are going to be the death of me. I think I just ripped a lung laughing! They're gonna report you to your TCP soon. That will be after they report you to the FCC. |
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BERTIE ALERT
Peter J Ross wrote in
: On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:32:23 +0000 (UTC), a team of surgeons from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip: The_navigator© wrote in news:bgn4k9$qjh6a$4@ID- 58816.news.uni-berlin.de: Hmmm. I don't think so. The IP is a different domain -right? Jesus Christ. You guys are going to be the death of me. I think I just ripped a lung laughing! They're gonna report you to your TCP soon. Oh ****! There goes the other one! Bertie |
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BERTIE ALERT
Just Plain Insane wrote in
: On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 06:30:40 +0100 I replied to Peter J Ross on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:32:23 +0000 (UTC), a team of surgeons from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip: The_navigator© wrote in news:bgn4k9$qjh6a$4@ID- 58816.news.uni-berlin.de: Hmmm. I don't think so. The IP is a different domain -right? Jesus Christ. You guys are going to be the death of me. I think I just ripped a lung laughing! They're gonna report you to your TCP soon. That will be after they report you to the FCC. Someone has already reported me to the FBI and whatever passs for an intelligence organisation down in NZ bertie |
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