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Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Sorry to leave the lively discussion last night, but I had to go take a
Bertie. Now my bucket must be emptied or there'll be Bertie all over the deck. You guys can feel free to argue with this clown and his sock puppets and pimple popping pals, but I really suggest filtering, deleting, and ignoring. I really wouldn't mind all the posts if they were either funny, witty, interesting, or sincere. I see no evidence of anything but a juvenile mentality screaming for attention. I recognize the M.O. Does anyone else get the feeling that they had their own NG but realized at some point that they have nothing interesting to talk about? Scout |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Scout wrote: Does anyone else get the feeling that they had their own NG but realized at some point that they have nothing interesting to talk about? Scout A frameable quote! We are not alone! -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Tim,
As usual, you have lighted another side of a dark cave. Do I understand your last comment correctly, in that you are saying a lack of interesting conversation may be what drove mankind to explore other villages, other lands, other planets, and now, other newsgroups? Could it be that the spirit of adventure, even the roots of sailing, share a cause-effect relationship with less than fabulous confabulation? Are these outsiders just virtual explorers and exploiters? The new white man? Let us not make the same mistake as those who have been intruded upon before us! Let's get them drunk and finish them off as they sleep. -- Scout be back later - gotta take a Bertie "Flying Tadpole" wrote Scout wrote: Does anyone else get the feeling that they had their own NG but realized at some point that they have nothing interesting to talk about? Scout A frameable quote! We are not alone! -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
For "a lack of interesting conversation" read "they could no
longer stand their own company". Scratch an explorer, a developer, an alpha male or a bunyip and find someone desperately trying to validate their own existence in the eyes of their parents/teachers/peers/other adults in some sort of adult/child transaction, with them the child (transactional analysis appleid to the present rash is very rewarding. Again, the sociologists are going to love it). And when the validation fails, as fail it must in so many cases--as indeed it is failing for our new vikings--then they create wonderful support structures of empires, slavery in all its forms including moral and intellectual, and amazingly banal instruments of torture. BTW, glad to see someone including the entire indo-european gene pool as "white man", given the immaculate performance in the development of empire of all the egyptian/mid-east and middle asian civilisations! And yes, of course the best, in fact the only, time to kickeminthenadgers is when they're down. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com Scout wrote: Tim, As usual, you have lighted another side of a dark cave. Do I understand your last comment correctly, in that you are saying a lack of interesting conversation may be what drove mankind to explore other villages, other lands, other planets, and now, other newsgroups? Could it be that the spirit of adventure, even the roots of sailing, share a cause-effect relationship with less than fabulous confabulation? Are these outsiders just virtual explorers and exploiters? The new white man? Let us not make the same mistake as those who have been intruded upon before us! Let's get them drunk and finish them off as they sleep. -- Scout be back later - gotta take a Bertie "Flying Tadpole" wrote Scout wrote: Does anyone else get the feeling that they had their own NG but realized at some point that they have nothing interesting to talk about? Scout A frameable quote! We are not alone! -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Truth be told, I am a fairly-firm believer in 'the Real Eve' theory (i.e.,
we are all 'out of Africa') as proposed by Oxford University's Stephen Oppenheimer. Interesting stuff. -- Scout be back later - gotta take a Bertie BTW, glad to see someone including the entire indo-european gene pool as "white man", given the immaculate performance in the development of empire of all the egyptian/mid-east and middle asian civilisations! |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Yes, I found that a bit confusing at first. But we are talking about what,
150K years of mutation since the proposed exudos? The existing gene pool, before the departure, had millions of years to produce the variations to that point. So by comparison, our 'new' family is much younger, with less time to evolve divergently (given that changes seen on the surface are really just that shallow). As a Euro-American, would I be out of line to say our native people, we would have gotten here before you if we didn't have that big puddle in the way? lol Good stuff. -- Scout be back later - gotta take a Bertie "Flying Tadpole" wrote I was thinking of the rip-roaring Arab slave trade of the last 1500 or so years. What I find intriguing with the "out of Africa" is that the genetic variability of those who departed is far less than that remaining in Africa; what's the estimate, about 100K "departed" to produce such a narrow gene pool? -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com Scout wrote: Truth be told, I am a fairly-firm believer in 'the Real Eve' theory (i.e., we are all 'out of Africa') as proposed by Oxford University's Stephen Oppenheimer. Interesting stuff. -- Scout be back later - gotta take a Bertie BTW, glad to see someone including the entire indo-european gene pool as "white man", given the immaculate performance in the development of empire of all the egyptian/mid-east and middle asian civilisations! |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Scratch an explorer, a developer, an alpha male or a bunyip and their fleas may jump off on you... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Oh yes. Good post.
Cheers MC Scout wrote: Sorry to leave the lively discussion last night, but I had to go take a Bertie. Now my bucket must be emptied or there'll be Bertie all over the deck. You guys can feel free to argue with this clown and his sock puppets and pimple popping pals, but I really suggest filtering, deleting, and ignoring. I really wouldn't mind all the posts if they were either funny, witty, interesting, or sincere. I see no evidence of anything but a juvenile mentality screaming for attention. I recognize the M.O. Does anyone else get the feeling that they had their own NG but realized at some point that they have nothing interesting to talk about? Scout |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
katysails wrote: Scratch an explorer, a developer, an alpha male or a bunyip and their fleas may jump off on you... No, they're alpha fleas and are bloodsucking so hard they don't have time to... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
"Scout" wrote in
: Sorry to leave the lively discussion last night, but I had to go take a Bertie. Now my bucket must be emptied or there'll be Bertie all over the deck. You guys can feel free to argue with this clown and his sock puppets and pimple popping pals, but I really suggest filtering, deleting, and ignoring. I really wouldn't mind all the posts if they were either funny, witty, interesting, or sincere. I see no evidence of anything but a juvenile mentality screaming for attention. I recognize the M.O. Does anyone else get the feeling that they had their own NG but realized at some point that they have nothing interesting to talk about? Scout Attaboy Scoutwad, get it out of your system. Feel better? Bertie |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
"Scout" wrote in
: Tim, As usual, you have lighted another side of a dark cave. Do I understand your last comment correctly, in that you are saying a lack of interesting conversation may be what drove mankind to explore other villages, other lands, other planets, and now, other newsgroups? Could it be that the spirit of adventure, even the roots of sailing, share a cause-effect relationship with less than fabulous confabulation? Are these outsiders just virtual explorers and exploiters? The new white man? Let us not make the same mistake as those who have been intruded upon before us! Let's get them drunk and finish them off as they sleep. you can try, of course. Bertie |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
Flying Tadpole wrote in
: For "a lack of interesting conversation" read "they could no longer stand their own company". Scratch an explorer, a developer, an alpha male or a bunyip and find someone desperately trying to validate their own existence in the eyes of their parents/teachers/peers/other adults in some sort of adult/child transaction, with them the child (transactional analysis appleid to the present rash is very rewarding. Is it? Bertie |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
You really have nothing to say, nothing to add, no wit, no humor, and no
information to offer other than publicly displaying your portfolio of personal failings and misgivings. Yet, you keep making noises, seemingly unaware of what an embarrassment you are to the species. Your time would be better spent applying to colleges. Don't forget to tell them about your IEP. -- be back later - gotta take a Bertie Scout "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote Well, no as long as you believe it, the rest of the world can stop worrying, can't they? Bertie |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
"Scout" wrote in
: You really have nothing to say, nothing to add, no wit, no humor, and no information to offer other than publicly displaying your portfolio of personal failings and misgivings. Yet, you keep making noises, seemingly unaware of what an embarrassment you are to the species. And yet, you are talking to me. Bertie |
Eulogy for a doomed troll tribe
Have no fear Bertie and pals, "finishing you off" is a euphimism for ending
your life in a.s.a. only. You are nothing more than contemporaneous specimens here, viewed with the same fascination Van Leeuwenhoek felt when he looked at those simple creatures trapped under his glass. But those creatures, as it turned out, had more depth and character than any of you have managed to demonstrate. Your childish repartee has left almost as much wanting as you initially promised, and so your time here is short. Yes, you provided some minor amusement. And the fact that you and your pals believed you were in control was necessary for us to stay interested in you. Don't you see how delightful that scenario is Bertie, Gary, Peter, Insane, et. al.? No matter. You were a momentary distraction, a diversion, play things. When we are through with you, and I fear that time is very close, we will "finish you off" by ignoring you, and you will wither, emaciate, and die; metaphorically at least. Oh, I'm sure you will thrash about for some time, making noises, name calling, and such, because the life force is strong, even in the most primitive animals. But I hope, via this edification, to soften the blow when you are forced to make that difficult transition from obscurity into oblivion. I leave you with this last bit of friendly advice: find another outlet for your energy, try sailing, try camping, try cooking, try community service. But try something, and save yourselves, before it is too late. Scout "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote you can try, of course. Scout wrote: Let's . . . finish them off as they sleep. |
Eulogy for a doomed troll tribe
"Scout" wrote in
: Have no fear Bertie and pals, "finishing you off" is a euphimism for ending your life in a.s.a. only. OK. You're doing a great job, BTW. You are nothing more than contemporaneous specimens here, viewed with the same fascination Van Leeuwenhoek felt when he looked at those simple creatures trapped under his glass. Yes, of course. BTW, is all of the high school biology talk supposed to make me feel inferior or something? I'm just curious, because that's the sort of bunyip I am. Bertie |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 02:50:39 -0400, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: You really have nothing to say, nothing to add, no wit, no humor, and no information to offer other than publicly displaying your portfolio of personal failings and misgivings. Yet, you keep making noises, seemingly unaware of what an embarrassment you are to the species. Your time would be better spent applying to colleges. Don't forget to tell them about your IEP. Yet somehow it works on ****heads like you. Heh. -- Gary/Kevin/Bertie/YourWorstNightmare -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 Talk to me in Google Groups! http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.fan.pjr |
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Yo Ho Ho and a Cabin_boy's Ass
wrote in : On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 02:50:39 -0400, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: You really have nothing to say, nothing to add, no wit, no humor, and no information to offer other than publicly displaying your portfolio of personal failings and misgivings. Yet, you keep making noises, seemingly unaware of what an embarrassment you are to the species. Your time would be better spent applying to colleges. Don't forget to tell them about your IEP. Yet somehow it works on ****heads like you. Heh. Yep,. And yet, somehow, it was UI who was trolled. Bwawhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahh! Bertei |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
The Cappys Master wrote in
: Guess you upset him Scout. Boy you guys are dumb. Either that or he's just a natural gutter mouth. snort! bertie On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 07:38:29 +0100, Yo Ho Ho and a Cabin_boy's Ass wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 02:50:39 -0400, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: You really have nothing to say, nothing to add, no wit, no humor, and no information to offer other than publicly displaying your portfolio of personal failings and misgivings. Yet, you keep making noises, seemingly unaware of what an embarrassment you are to the species. Your time would be better spent applying to colleges. Don't forget to tell them about your IEP. Yet somehow it works on ****heads like you. Heh. -- Gary/Kevin/Bertie/YourWorstNightmare Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Cedar bucket is full of Bertie
"Scout" wrote in
: Cappy, I'm LMAO here; these kids are so desperate for attention, and a direct response from me, that they are now sock puppetting with a "Scout" doll. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! So if I won't give them a direct response, they will make one up for me! Is that funny or what? If I ever need proof that I've beaten them, that oughta' do it! Ah yeah. Of course as an alternative, you could always just jerk off against the wall and read it like tea leaves! Bertie |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Yo Ho Ho and a Cabin_boy's Ass wrote in : On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 02:50:39 -0400, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: You really have nothing to say, nothing to add, no wit, no humor, and no information to offer other than publicly displaying your portfolio of personal failings and misgivings. Yet, you keep making noises, seemingly unaware of what an embarrassment you are to the species. Your time would be better spent applying to colleges. Don't forget to tell them about your IEP. Yet somehow it works on ****heads like you. Heh. Yep,. And yet, somehow, it was UI who was trolled. Bwawhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahh! Trolled???????? Tell us how you feel about the pope again, Bertie!!! Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaa! Yeah, I know! We are all loons. Meanwhile you are looking like an inneffectual idiot. Can you feel your credibility evaporating? Regards Donal -- |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:56:38 +0100 I replied to "Donal"
on a piece of toilet paper while scribbling their name and phone number on the bathroom wall in alt.sailing.asa Can you feel your credibility evaporating? Your's has been gone for years now. |
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Peter,
Our hero appears to be stumped by your word order. "Not even a paragraph can they manage" has, of course, all the necessary components of a technically complete sentence. I congratulate you for so cleverly exposing his weak grasp of the English language. You made it look easy - you're good! Scout "Gary L. Burnore" wrote "Not even a paragraph can they manage." That's not even an actual sentence, dufus. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:35:51 -0400, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: Peter, Our hero appears to be stumped by your word order. "Not even a paragraph can they manage" has, of course, all the necessary components of a technically complete sentence. I congratulate you for so cleverly exposing his weak grasp of the English language. You made it look easy - you're good! Tsk. Try your word order right to get: "Peter, To be stumped by your word order appears our hero. All the necessary components of a technically complete sentence has 'Not even a paragraph can they manage', of course. You for his weak grasp of the English language exposing so cleverly I congratulate. Easy made you it look - good are you!" *Much* easier to understand is that, isn't it? -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:28 -0400, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from katysails: "Not even a paragraph can they manage." That's not even an actual sentence, dufus. Yes, it is. It is a passive sentence. No it isn't. An active sentence it is, with the kind of rhetorical inversion that this idiot somewhere has read effective is sometimes. Unfortunately, *when* it's effective did he not learn. -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 |
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The more they post, the more they embarrass themselves. There was even
a deliberate typo for them to nit-pick over. Perhaps their spelling is too poor fo them to have noticed. On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:35:51 -0400, "Scout" wrote: Peter, Our hero appears to be stumped by your word order. "Not even a paragraph can they manage" has, of course, all the necessary components of a technically complete sentence. I congratulate you for so cleverly exposing his weak grasp of the English language. You made it look easy - you're good! Scout "Gary L. Burnore" wrote "Not even a paragraph can they manage." That's not even an actual sentence, dufus. |
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Yep. It's hilarious how they try to change the charge after they've been
proven wrong. First they claim it's not a sentence. Then they want to restate my point, as though they knew it all along. I love it! Scout "Peter Wiley" wrote The more they post, the more they embarrass themselves. Peter Ross wrote: "Tsk. Try your word order right to get:" Scout wrote: [GLB is] . . . stumped by your word order. [It is] a . . . complete sentence. Gary L. Burnore wrote: "Not even a paragraph can they manage." That's not even an actual sentence, dufus. |
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Peter Wiley wrote:
The more they post, the more they embarrass themselves. There was even a deliberate typo for them to nit-pick over. Perhaps their spelling is too poor fo them to have noticed. Cheetah! Cheetah! On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:35:51 -0400, "Scout" wrote: Peter, Our hero appears to be stumped by your word order. "Not even a paragraph can they manage" has, of course, all the necessary components of a technically complete sentence. I congratulate you for so cleverly exposing his weak grasp of the English language. You made it look easy - you're good! Scout "Gary L. Burnore" wrote "Not even a paragraph can they manage." That's not even an actual sentence, dufus. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:43:35 -0400, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: Yep. It's hilarious how they try to change the charge after they've been proven wrong. First they claim it's not a sentence. "They"? When did Gary become plural? Then they want to restate my point, as though they knew it all along. You had a point? I love it! Scout I'm going to have more fun here than I expected if you all start grammar- and spelling-laming. -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 |
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A Texan walks up to a student at Harvard U., and says, "Excuse me, where's
the library at? The student replies, "Here at Harvard, we do not end sentences with prepositions." To this, the accommodating Texan replies, "Sorry, where's the library at asshole?" Scout "Peter Wiley" wrote The more they post, the more they embarrass themselves. |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
1. Peter Wiley wrote:
What credibility? Bertie and his smelly sockpuppets don't have any. I use 'any' in the most general sense, as in 'they have nothing' - 1. Then Peter J Ross wrote: Since "any" is meaningless unless it refers back to "credibility", your "most general sense" is clearly not a sense known in English as the rest of us speak and write it. Redefining words to mean what you choose them to mean doesn't make a good impression on a reader. 1. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. Since "What credibility?" is clearly the topic sentence of this abbreviated paragraph, modern English readers and writers (rightfully) assume the supporting details of that paragraph refer back to it. If they do not refer back to the topic sentence, then the paragraph is considered unfocused and disorganized. 2. Peter Wiley wrote: no wit, no humour, no skills in debate, no originality, no ability to engage in even social conversation over the net, where they can hide their physical inadequacies from the world. 2. Then Peter J Ross wrote: This makes no sense at all unless the word "even" modifies "over the net", in which case it needs to be moved two words along. When you learn to write English more fluently you'll be able to place words better. 2. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. I believe the writer is using 'even' as an additional adjective for the noun 'conversation', Id est, he is referring to the sad fact that you and your pals are incapable of having a conversation with us that is "on the level." 3. Peter Wiley wrote: Look what happened here. Bertie got his head handed to him on a platter. Unable to compete in wit at any level, or invective above the puerile, he runs off to fetch his equally dim and socially retarded compatriots - 3. Then Peter J Ross wrote: Are you saying we're all of the same nationality, or are you confused about the meaning of the word "compatriot"? Perhaps you wanted the word "compeers"? 3. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: Any confusion about the definition of the word compatriot can be cleared up with an English dictionary. My own dictionary (American Heritage, 3rd ed.) gives these two definitions for the word: [com·pa·tri·ot: n. 1. A person from one's own country. 2. A colleague.]. I believe the writer (correctly) chose the second definition. Might I add that you (plural) made the decision to (ahem) collaborate with the Bunyippies; hence, you are colleagues, or compatriots, if you prefer. 4. Peter Wiley wrote: Not even a paragraph can they manage. 4. Then Peter J Ross wrote: No style, 4. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: Of course it's style. It just so happens you don't care for that style. "Star Wars" fans love it! 5. Peter Wiley wrote: and it's a struggle for them to get there. We're all laughing at the few pathetic posts that make their way past the twit filters, respond to less, 5. Then Peter J Ross wrote: "We're all laughing... responding... and laughing" would be correct, 5. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. Your rewrite is ambiguous. The reader may incorrectly interpret that to mean "we laugh at you, we respond, and then we laugh at our own responses." Or is that not what you mean? See? I'm confused by your diction. Since you have decided to grade this as a formal, college level paper, you had better not be guilty of ambiguity yourself, professor. {large section snipped - contained extreme nit-picking on the part of Peter J Ross} 6. Then Peter J Ross wrote: For the piece as a whole, I'll give you five marks out of ten, and hope you'll improve after reading these few hints. In your next exercise, aim for clarity, and don't attempt to use vocabulary that's beyond you. Good luck! You don't *have* to pay me anything, but a few years ago I used to receive five or ten UK pounds a time for writing similar comments on Local Government leaflets. It was money for old rope. 6. Then Scout summarized his take on the post: You don't have to pay me either. I make $74,000/year teaching English in America. I'm also a paid/published author. Peter, at least I see an honest attempt to communicate here. You are, of course, guilty of (facetiously?) grading a memo as though it were a dissertation. Even so, your point deductions are at best, debatable. The real crime, however, is that you miss, no, that you ignore, the author's point. Most of your friends post one or two word nonsensical responses. Throw in a controversial thought once in a while, and we'll have a good time kicking it around. Behave like asses, however, and we will just have to enjoy ourselves by kicking you around. One more thing. I did my Master's in linguistics at Temple University. One day our professor handed out an essay and told us to find all the mistakes. We found plenty. We gave the graded papers back to the teacher. He checked our work, and handed us all F's. Why? Because there was nothing really wrong with the papers. We wanted to find mistakes, so we did. Language, no, syntax, is like that. The Gettysburg Address was torn to ribbons by a grammar checker. My posts could be ripped apart as well. So can anything you care to post. You know it. I know it. So why pretend that we don't see the point in Peter's post? You seem like an intelligent person, why not put it to good use? It's your choice. Scout |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:20:24 -0400, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Scout: 1. Peter Wiley wrote: What credibility? Bertie and his smelly sockpuppets don't have any. I use 'any' in the most general sense, as in 'they have nothing' - 1. Then Peter J Ross wrote: Since "any" is meaningless unless it refers back to "credibility", your "most general sense" is clearly not a sense known in English as the rest of us speak and write it. Redefining words to mean what you choose them to mean doesn't make a good impression on a reader. 1. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. Since "What credibility?" is clearly the topic sentence of this abbreviated paragraph, modern English readers and writers (rightfully) assume the supporting details of that paragraph refer back to it. If they do not refer back to the topic sentence, then the paragraph is considered unfocused and disorganized. Insofar as I can make any sense of this verbiage, you appear to be agreeing with me. Thanks! 2. Peter Wiley wrote: no wit, no humour, no skills in debate, no originality, no ability to engage in even social conversation over the net, where they can hide their physical inadequacies from the world. 2. Then Peter J Ross wrote: This makes no sense at all unless the word "even" modifies "over the net", in which case it needs to be moved two words along. When you learn to write English more fluently you'll be able to place words better. 2. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. I believe the writer is using 'even' as an additional adjective for the noun 'conversation', Id est, he is referring to the sad fact that you and your pals are incapable of having a conversation with us that is "on the level." Then what do you make of the appendage about "physical inadequacies"? How is it contrasted with "socail conversation", as "even" requires it to be? Admit that you're gibbering in an attempt to defend the indefensible. 3. Peter Wiley wrote: Look what happened here. Bertie got his head handed to him on a platter. Unable to compete in wit at any level, or invective above the puerile, he runs off to fetch his equally dim and socially retarded compatriots - 3. Then Peter J Ross wrote: Are you saying we're all of the same nationality, or are you confused about the meaning of the word "compatriot"? Perhaps you wanted the word "compeers"? 3. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: Any confusion about the definition of the word compatriot can be cleared up with an English dictionary. My own dictionary (American Heritage, 3rd ed.) gives these two definitions for the word: [com·pa·tri·ot: n. 1. A person from one's own country. 2. A colleague.]. O tempora. O mores. I hate it when useful, precise words come to be misused so often that even dictionaries have to accept the misuse. I believe the writer (correctly) chose the second definition. Might I add that you (plural) made the decision to (ahem) collaborate with the Bunyippies; hence, you are colleagues, or compatriots, if you prefer. No, I don't prefer "compatriots". It's sloppily ambiguous at best. 4. Peter Wiley wrote: Not even a paragraph can they manage. 4. Then Peter J Ross wrote: No style, 4. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: Of course it's style. It just so happens you don't care for that style. If you had enough brains to work out who said what, you'd know that that was exactly what my response (which you snipped silently) meant. Yes, it just so happens that I don't care for pseudo-archaic pretentiousness, especially when the writer is clearly semi-literate. Nevertheless, it's sometimes fun to laugh at it. "Star Wars" fans love it! Then tell your little friend to bugger off to a Star Wars newsgroup. 5. Peter Wiley wrote: and it's a struggle for them to get there. We're all laughing at the few pathetic posts that make their way past the twit filters, respond to less, 5. Then Peter J Ross wrote: "We're all laughing... responding... and laughing" would be correct, 5. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. Your rewrite is ambiguous. I expect I'd stick an extra pronoun or two in. The reader may incorrectly interpret that to mean "we laugh at you, we respond, and then we laugh at our own responses." Or is that not what you mean? See? I'm confused by your diction. I suggest you stick to "Janet and John" then. Since you have decided to grade this as a formal, college level paper, No, I'm treating it as an effort at communication by somebody who probably wouldn't get into any college that set a written exam. you had better not be guilty of ambiguity yourself, professor. Since about half of what you've written so far is barely comprehensible and you've even shown confusion about who said what, I don't think you're in a very strong position to criticise. {large section snipped - contained extreme nit-picking on the part of Peter J Ross} I'm glad you admit that you can't dispute any of it. 6. Then Peter J Ross wrote: For the piece as a whole, I'll give you five marks out of ten, and hope you'll improve after reading these few hints. In your next exercise, aim for clarity, and don't attempt to use vocabulary that's beyond you. Good luck! You don't *have* to pay me anything, but a few years ago I used to receive five or ten UK pounds a time for writing similar comments on Local Government leaflets. It was money for old rope. 6. Then Scout summarized his take on the post: You don't have to pay me either. I make $74,000/year teaching English in America. I'm also a paid/published author. O tempora again. Peter, at least I see an honest attempt to communicate here. No, you've been trolled, actually. I've been on a roll recently. One of the idiots in soc.men is accusing one of my temporary sockpuppets of stalking him; another of them seems to think I've reported his Yahoo group to the Canadian government; and now I have you boasting about how much you earn. I haven't *tried* to achieve any of these things, but I've certainly found myself in the right place at the right time. You are, of course, guilty of (facetiously?) grading a memo as though it were a dissertation. Even so, your point deductions are at best, debatable. The real crime, however, is that you miss, no, that you ignore, the author's point. His "point", if that's the right word for something so lacking in sharpness, was to whine about the illiteracy of people who in fact write far more clearly, stylishly and entertainingly than he does. Most of your friends post one or two word nonsensical responses. Throw in a controversial thought once in a while, and we'll have a good time kicking it around. Behave like asses, however, and we will just have to enjoy ourselves by kicking you around. Oh yes. "Look how my face is smashing your fist!" One more thing. I did my Master's in linguistics at Temple University. Ought I to have heard of it? One day our professor handed out an essay and told us to find all the mistakes. We found plenty. We gave the graded papers back to the teacher. He checked our work, and handed us all F's. Why? Because there was nothing really wrong with the papers. We wanted to find mistakes, so we did. Language, no, syntax, is like that. The Gettysburg Address was torn to ribbons by a grammar checker. My posts could be ripped apart as well. So can anything you care to post. You know it. I know it. So why pretend that we don't see the point in Peter's post? Why is this rather silly diatribe not directed at your semi-literate little friend? He's the one who started complaining about other posters' grammar and style, remember. You seem like an intelligent person, why not put it to good use? It's your choice. Oh I will, I assure you. But you probably won't like it much. -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
I've ordered extra popcorn and some donuts and pulled up a comfy
seat to watch Scout, the friendly neighbourhood vivisector, display his artistry on a hypnotised victim. "It's all for your own good!" he says, as he delicately gelds the willing subject. But will Peter J Ross, having failed in normal intercourse, now resort to binary fission? -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com Scout wrote: 1. Peter Wiley wrote: What credibility? Bertie and his smelly sockpuppets don't have any. I use 'any' in the most general sense, as in 'they have nothing' - 1. Then Peter J Ross wrote: Since "any" is meaningless unless it refers back to "credibility", your "most general sense" is clearly not a sense known in English as the rest of us speak and write it. Redefining words to mean what you choose them to mean doesn't make a good impression on a reader. 1. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. Since "What credibility?" is clearly the topic sentence of this abbreviated paragraph, modern English readers and writers (rightfully) assume the supporting details of that paragraph refer back to it. If they do not refer back to the topic sentence, then the paragraph is considered unfocused and disorganized. 2. Peter Wiley wrote: no wit, no humour, no skills in debate, no originality, no ability to engage in even social conversation over the net, where they can hide their physical inadequacies from the world. 2. Then Peter J Ross wrote: This makes no sense at all unless the word "even" modifies "over the net", in which case it needs to be moved two words along. When you learn to write English more fluently you'll be able to place words better. 2. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. I believe the writer is using 'even' as an additional adjective for the noun 'conversation', Id est, he is referring to the sad fact that you and your pals are incapable of having a conversation with us that is "on the level." 3. Peter Wiley wrote: Look what happened here. Bertie got his head handed to him on a platter. Unable to compete in wit at any level, or invective above the puerile, he runs off to fetch his equally dim and socially retarded compatriots - 3. Then Peter J Ross wrote: Are you saying we're all of the same nationality, or are you confused about the meaning of the word "compatriot"? Perhaps you wanted the word "compeers"? 3. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: Any confusion about the definition of the word compatriot can be cleared up with an English dictionary. My own dictionary (American Heritage, 3rd ed.) gives these two definitions for the word: [com·pa·tri·ot: n. 1. A person from one's own country. 2. A colleague.]. I believe the writer (correctly) chose the second definition. Might I add that you (plural) made the decision to (ahem) collaborate with the Bunyippies; hence, you are colleagues, or compatriots, if you prefer. 4. Peter Wiley wrote: Not even a paragraph can they manage. 4. Then Peter J Ross wrote: No style, 4. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: Of course it's style. It just so happens you don't care for that style. "Star Wars" fans love it! 5. Peter Wiley wrote: and it's a struggle for them to get there. We're all laughing at the few pathetic posts that make their way past the twit filters, respond to less, 5. Then Peter J Ross wrote: "We're all laughing... responding... and laughing" would be correct, 5. Then Scout corrected Peter J. Ross with this clarification: No. Your rewrite is ambiguous. The reader may incorrectly interpret that to mean "we laugh at you, we respond, and then we laugh at our own responses." Or is that not what you mean? See? I'm confused by your diction. Since you have decided to grade this as a formal, college level paper, you had better not be guilty of ambiguity yourself, professor. {large section snipped - contained extreme nit-picking on the part of Peter J Ross} 6. Then Peter J Ross wrote: For the piece as a whole, I'll give you five marks out of ten, and hope you'll improve after reading these few hints. In your next exercise, aim for clarity, and don't attempt to use vocabulary that's beyond you. Good luck! You don't *have* to pay me anything, but a few years ago I used to receive five or ten UK pounds a time for writing similar comments on Local Government leaflets. It was money for old rope. 6. Then Scout summarized his take on the post: You don't have to pay me either. I make $74,000/year teaching English in America. I'm also a paid/published author. Peter, at least I see an honest attempt to communicate here. You are, of course, guilty of (facetiously?) grading a memo as though it were a dissertation. Even so, your point deductions are at best, debatable. The real crime, however, is that you miss, no, that you ignore, the author's point. Most of your friends post one or two word nonsensical responses. Throw in a controversial thought once in a while, and we'll have a good time kicking it around. Behave like asses, however, and we will just have to enjoy ourselves by kicking you around. One more thing. I did my Master's in linguistics at Temple University. One day our professor handed out an essay and told us to find all the mistakes. We found plenty. We gave the graded papers back to the teacher. He checked our work, and handed us all F's. Why? Because there was nothing really wrong with the papers. We wanted to find mistakes, so we did. Language, no, syntax, is like that. The Gettysburg Address was torn to ribbons by a grammar checker. My posts could be ripped apart as well. So can anything you care to post. You know it. I know it. So why pretend that we don't see the point in Peter's post? You seem like an intelligent person, why not put it to good use? It's your choice. Scout |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
I kf'ed Peter J Ross a while ago for committing the unforgiveable sin of being boring. It seems that I was correct in my initial assessment. He wants to nit-pick my grammar? Let him. I don't care. I write in conversational English, an ability that his compatriots sadly lack, judging by their posts. Most of their posts are one-liners and puerile at that. They remind me of a bunch of preschoolers making toilet jokes to each other, mainly because they've so recently managed to learn how & when to use one for its intended purpose. With luck, my top-posting will be annoying to the lot of them. While they fume and spend time attempting to compose intelligent, coherent and witty replies, I'll be, first, having coffee and dinner with an attractive *adult* blonde, followed by a quiet night's reading of Dick Feynman's book. Tomorrow I'll glance in, kf all the new sockpuppets, then spend the rest of the day working with the contractors getting my ship ready for the first voyage of the season. Yesterday, I was building my new cottage and paddling my kayak across the tide flats. It's a tough life, but someone has to live it. This rabble of losers can only aspire to master comic books, and their ability to have social intercourse with a female is limited to their ability to purchase inflatable dolls. They couldn't even get a second date with a prostitute, because there are some things even they won't do for money. Sooner or later, they'll realise just how far out of their intellectual depth they are and retire to lick their wounds, or they'll actually respond to training and attempt to lift their feeble repartee. Who knows, one or two of them may actually *be* trainable. Nav was giving dancing lessons and getting somewhere, but he has more patience than I do. God help them if Mooron gets bored. Ah well, looks like the fun's over x-posting into the vampire ****** n/g; the German news server blocked it. No loss really. If they don't read ASA, good riddance. 6. Then Scout summarized his take on the post: You don't have to pay me either. I make $74,000/year teaching English in America. I'm also a paid/published author. Peter, at least I see an honest attempt to communicate here. You are, of course, guilty of (facetiously?) grading a memo as though it were a dissertation. Even so, your point deductions are at best, debatable. The real crime, however, is that you miss, no, that you ignore, the author's point. Most of your friends post one or two word nonsensical responses. Throw in a controversial thought once in a while, and we'll have a good time kicking it around. Behave like asses, however, and we will just have to enjoy ourselves by kicking you around. One more thing. I did my Master's in linguistics at Temple University. One day our professor handed out an essay and told us to find all the mistakes. We found plenty. We gave the graded papers back to the teacher. He checked our work, and handed us all F's. Why? Because there was nothing really wrong with the papers. We wanted to find mistakes, so we did. Language, no, syntax, is like that. The Gettysburg Address was torn to ribbons by a grammar checker. My posts could be ripped apart as well. So can anything you care to post. You know it. I know it. So why pretend that we don't see the point in Peter's post? You seem like an intelligent person, why not put it to good use? It's your choice. Scout |
Bertie gets trolled
"Scout" wrote in
: Peter, Our hero appears to be stumped by your word order. "Not even a paragraph can they manage" has, of course, all the necessary components of a technically complete sentence. I congratulate you for so cleverly exposing his weak grasp of the English language. Bwaswahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwha hhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhw hahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwha hwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwh ahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhah hwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwh ahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwha hwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwh ahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhah whahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwha hhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhah hwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwh ahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhah whahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwha hwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahh whahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwha hhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahhwhah whahwhahwhahhwha! Bertie |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
"Scout" wrote in
: You don't have to pay me either. I make $74,000/year teaching English in America. enough said. if you gotta tell 'em who you are, you ain't.-Gregory Peck Bertie |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
Flying Tadpole wrote in
: I've ordered extra popcorn and some donuts and pulled up a comfy seat to watch Scout, the friendly neighbourhood vivisector, display his artistry on a hypnotised victim. "It's all for your own good!" he says, as he delicately gelds the willing subject. But will Peter J Ross, having failed in normal intercourse, now resort to binary fission? Mmm hmm. bertie |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
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ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
I must answer this one. No, I'm not Gregory Peck, but I not only met him, I
sat next to him as we watched his daughter in a play. Thanks for the reminder of a great man and a great memory!! Scout "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote if you gotta tell 'em who you are, you ain't.-Gregory Peck Bertie |
ASA Remedial English Classes, Lesson One [ Bertie gets trolled]
Thanks Katy,
It's beginning to look like some of the minor bunyippies could bloom into reasonably intelligent posters. It's only the top dog(s) who still can't manage much more than a "snort" response. My theory is that his overuse of "snort" is an onomatopoeic throwback to the root cause of his disorder. BTW - I do appreciate his random choice of Gregory Peck in his attempt to 'humiliate' me. As you know, Scout is a character from the movie in which Peck cemented his place as my favorite actor of all time. Scout "katysails" wrote I would lend Scout my machete, but then it would all be over too quickly... |
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