Well let's see if you can recover from yet another revealing little
error. Say you are trimmed for 150 on a broad reach. At what angle does
the main start to luff? Hint 1: Look up what luffing means Hint 2:
Luffing does _not_ mean you are sailing 90 ).

Cheers MC

DSK wrote:

Doen't have to be slower. The boat may well be faster standing more
upright...

The Cappys Master wrote:
Of course it'll be slower if every time you get extra pressure you
dump the kite and have to crank it on again.
Especially if the chute self destructs as it flogs.


Oz, I think I see the picture. Navvie is confused about whether one is sailing
upwind or downwind when all this happens. He seems to think that the mainsail
will be luffing, and that easing the spinnaker sheet makes everything A-OK.

It would probably be kinder to let him hash this out with Bubbles, then they'll
both come out thinking they've "won."

DSK

Which of my statements of fact are you disputing? And are you
classing the AS29 (30ft, 3 tons), Martha Jane (24 ft, 1 ton) as
dinghies? (I accept that the Light Schooner at 24 ft and 1/2 ton
laden is marginally a dinghy, and the rest are sailing dinghies).
None of the cases runs a spinnaker. All can be made to death-roll
as indicated without much effort (all one has to do is ignore the
build-up, since they mostly give fair warning).

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The navigator© wrote:

I can understand Dougs limited ability to talk abour anything except
dingies but I thought you knew more. Was I was mistaken?

Cheers MC

Flying Tadpole wrote:

DSK wrote:

The navigator© wrote:
snip
3. It's hard to do a death roll without a spinnaker and the reason is
the spin pulls the boat over as long as it's full of air!

Total nonsense. I guess small una rigs like the Laser and Finn are notorious for death
rolling because "it's hard to do without a spinnaker."



Lady Kate will death roll running square. Flying Tadpole II would
deathroll running wing and wing until we worked out how to set
the schooenr rig properly. Windsprints (Lugger) and Martha Janes
(balanced lugger) deathroll on a square run if not set up
properly. No spinnakers on any of them. Mirror dinghies without
spinnaker are great death rollers. So it goes.


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The navigator© wrote:

I can understand Dougs limited ability to talk abour anything except
dingies but I thought you knew more. Was I was mistaken?

How does a clear demonstration of greater familiarity with the handling of large keelboats &
their spinnakers become, in your opinion, "limited ability to talk abour anything except
dingies"? Who was it that said "standing the boat up massively" is accepted sailing technique,
with no further explanation or example?

Is it possibly the same reason why you claim I never studied thermodynamics? Having a bad day,
Navvie©?

DSK

Clear demonstration of big boat experience? Oh, you mean like letting
the letting the vang go or pulling the pole down to stop a broach? You
pompous ass. Well if you had sailed big keel boats you would know that
they do not broach easily when the spinnaker is taken down...

The fact that you don't know about the effect of heeling during the
development of a broach is even more telling. Fess up, you know nothing
about sailing big boats.

Cheers MC



DSK wrote:

The navigator© wrote:


I can understand Dougs limited ability to talk abour anything except
dingies but I thought you knew more. Was I was mistaken?


How does a clear demonstration of greater familiarity with the handling of large keelboats &
their spinnakers become, in your opinion, "limited ability to talk abour anything except
dingies"? Who was it that said "standing the boat up massively" is accepted sailing technique,
with no further explanation or example?

Is it possibly the same reason why you claim I never studied thermodynamics? Having a bad day,
Navvie©?

DSK