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Jeff Morris July 29th 03 07:55 PM

Alien Sail
 
Hey Neal - you won, Booby just announced it! None of your arguments made any sense to me,
but booby is convincing. I think you should take lessons from him!



"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
This why the Crapton©'s picture is in the dictionary under the definition of
"loser"

He is relying on Bubbles to help his claim that he won!

He did win. Jeff lost, then tried to alter the thread and finally called Neal
names.
Neal stayed on topic and proved his points. I'm hardly a huge fan of Neal's,
but I know a knock out when I see one. Jeff hit the matt cold.

RB




Scott Vernon July 29th 03 08:20 PM

Alien Sail
 

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote ...
I think you should take lessons from him!



sailing lessons?




Scott Vernon July 29th 03 08:20 PM

Alien Sail
 
ha ha ha.. is that what that monstrosity is for?


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
You never know when some klutz
,carrying a sledge hammer, might fall off the dock into my boat and bend

my
wheel.

Why don't you get one of those big ass extra long boarding ladders. I

heard
they prevent that kind of thing from happening.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




Scott Vernon July 29th 03 08:22 PM

Alien Sail
 
my boat has air brakes.


"How do you expect
a sailboat to stop her foward progress? Does your
sailboat have brakes or something? "






SAIL LOCO July 29th 03 11:06 PM

Alien Sail
 
ha ha ha.. is that what that monstrosity is for?

Can also be used for tying up in Europe.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Jeff Morris July 29th 03 11:21 PM

Alien Sail
 
They were prepared for an afternoon sail. These boats are used for racing & instruction
only. I forget why they were let out and then forgotten about. Of course, in my youth,
I recall going out "after hours" a few times. In fact, I camped club boats (different
club) on that island a number of times, but only in the Summer.

I'll try to track down a record of it, but it was pre-web and not something that gets
advertised.

"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:51:11 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

The boat was a Soling. The spot was Brewster Spit, though I'm not sure how close to

the
island it was. Somewhere north of "kelp ledges" on the chart. IIRC it was October,
maybe 91 or 92. I believe they stayed with the boat and it was an unseasonably cold,
nasty night.

http://www.sv-loki.com/brewster.jpg


They must have been incredibly badly prepared and stupid to boot!

There is plenty of room under the deck of a Soling.
If it was cold they would or should have been dressed warmly.
Drop the sails, use them to cover the front of the cockpit after
lining it with spinnakers and jib and snuggle down for the night.

Oh and always carry flares!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Donal July 29th 03 11:56 PM

Alien Sail
 

"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
...
You have a compass mounted 7 feet away from your helming position?

Yep!

Guess you don't worry about confirming shifts eh?


Huh?

Just tack when the bow goes down?


Huh?

Regards


Donal
--




Jeff Morris July 30th 03 12:05 AM

Alien Sail
 
OK Already. I agree. But they didn't. I can't remember why - If they were on the spit
at low tide they could have walked to the island. But if they were on rocks, tried to get
in, but got soaked instead, they'd have a problem. Cemeteries are filled with people
that "should" have survived.



"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
...
You didn't read my post!
They should easily have survived one night!

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:21:21 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

They were prepared for an afternoon sail. These boats are used for racing &

instruction
only. I forget why they were let out and then forgotten about. Of course, in my

youth,
I recall going out "after hours" a few times. In fact, I camped club boats (different
club) on that island a number of times, but only in the Summer.

I'll try to track down a record of it, but it was pre-web and not something that gets
advertised.

"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:51:11 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

The boat was a Soling. The spot was Brewster Spit, though I'm not sure how close to

the
island it was. Somewhere north of "kelp ledges" on the chart. IIRC it was

October,
maybe 91 or 92. I believe they stayed with the boat and it was an unseasonably

cold,
nasty night.

http://www.sv-loki.com/brewster.jpg

They must have been incredibly badly prepared and stupid to boot!

There is plenty of room under the deck of a Soling.
If it was cold they would or should have been dressed warmly.
Drop the sails, use them to cover the front of the cockpit after
lining it with spinnakers and jib and snuggle down for the night.

Oh and always carry flares!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Flying Tadpole July 30th 03 12:59 AM

Alien Sail
 

CANDChelp wrote:

You're right. You, Ganz and Neal may targets of yourselves that even Ozzy

can't
resist poking at you!


You've a new hero, huh?

Yeah...and it's you!
Donal AKA "Target Man"

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB


What will you do if, before you carry out your sentence, he asks
for a last donut from you ?
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace!
http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com

Vito July 30th 03 05:15 PM

Alien Sail
 
CANDChelp wrote:

Hard to imagine that they couldn't stay alive for a single night.


The winter I spent in Minnesota was one of the coldest on record. A
resident hopped out to get his morning paper, got locked out and froze
to death. His tracks showed how he'd walked around his house trying
windows then started for his neighbors house. After some 20 yards he
circled away, apparently loosing it, and fell ... all in minutes. I know
it's never that cold on the water but ...?
Cheers
Howard

SAIL LOCO July 30th 03 05:16 PM

Alien Sail
 
His tracks showed how he'd walked around his house trying
windows then started for his neighbors house.

Unless the Putz had bars on the windows why didn't he just break in. I would
have kicked in the back door. What a shame.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Donal July 30th 03 11:24 PM

Alien Sail
 

"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:22:44 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


Enjoy the smug feeling!


Oh I will, all smuggled up and warm :-)


I hope that one day I will know as much as you do.

I'd like to feel smug too!


Regards


Donal
--




Horvath July 31st 03 11:36 AM

Alien Sail
 
On 30 Jul 2003 16:16:52 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote this
crap:

His tracks showed how he'd walked around his house trying
windows then started for his neighbors house.

Unless the Putz had bars on the windows why didn't he just break in. I would
have kicked in the back door. What a shame.


I would have left the door unlocked, or used the key I keep on the
back porch.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

Donal July 31st 03 10:58 PM

Alien Sail
 

"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
...
Both cryptic comments related to the same thing. Confirming that you
have indeed entered a wind shift rather than just tacking because the
bow has gone down.
To race smart you MUST have an easy to read compass or tactical
compass to confirm shifts somewhere where you or your crew can keep a
constant eye on it.

Can you think why?

You're still trying to play "cat and mouse". I also get the impression that
you think that I am a racer. I'm not. I did a few "Round the Island" races
because that seemed a good way to learn sailing. I like to do things well,
so when I moved to sail, I entered a couple of races to hone my skills.

I've no idea what you mean by "the bow has gone down", so I cannot answer
your questions.


From the helm, I have a clear view of the compass. I can use it to detect
wind shifts when we are out at sea. When we are doing the "Round the
Island", we don't need the compass to tell us that there has been a shift.




I've said before that I am a novice sailor. I'm happy with my position

in
the learning tree, because I *am* learning. If you need to take pleasure
from looking down your nose at people like me, then so be it. Good luck

to
you.


You misread me.
I taught for many years....yes, something else I've done....and found
that a cryptic clue was an excellent neuron exciter.
I look down on no-one but one who feels there is nothing more to
learn, and look up to many.


Hmmmm! Read your earlier replies to me. Do I give the impression that
I've nothing to learn? I'm aware that I sometimes come across much stronger
than I feel, but I can't do anything about that. I am *learning* to sail,
and I have NO problem with that. I'm very happy to accept advice from you,
or anybody else who has more sailing experience than I have.


Quite a few on this ng who when they open
up provide a wealth of knowledge both sailing and otherwise.


Perhaps you could "open up" from time to time??


What do yo mean by "bow down"?

Regards


Donal
--




DSK August 1st 03 12:20 AM

Alien Sail
 
Donal wrote:

I've no idea what you mean by "the bow has gone down", so I cannot answer
your questions.


I think what he means is that the helm has been put up, the boat turning away
from the wind, bearing away... although if it's in response to a shift it's not
really bearing away since the idea is to keep the same angle to the wind.

DSK



Horvath August 1st 03 12:25 AM

Alien Sail
 
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:57:12 +1000, The Cappys Master wrote this
crap:

On 31 Jul 2003 10:36:44 GMT, Horvath wrote:

I would have left the door unlocked, or used the key I keep on the
back porch.




You need a key to slit the tape on that carton you call home?


FYI, I live in a new house, in a very nice neighborhood, on a hill
overlooking a pond full of ducks and geese. And it's paid for.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

The_navigator© August 1st 03 01:54 AM

Alien Sail
 
The Cappys Master wrote:

I've no idea what you mean by "the bow has gone down", so I cannot answer
your questions.


I think what he means is that the helm has been put up, the boat turning away


from the wind, bearing away... although if it's in response to a shift it's not


really bearing away since the idea is to keep the same angle to the wind.

DSK



Actually I was thinking more off coming off a gust when boatspeed is
still up but wind strength has dropped. Apparent moves forward so the
boat is pulled away/bow goes down.
Many skippers see this immediately as a knock and tack with
disasterous results.


'Many' You have got to be kidding. What fleet/club is this (Holly's)?

Cheers MC


me August 1st 03 02:36 PM

Alien Sail
 
and it has new tires

FYI, I live in a new house, in a very nice neighborhood, on a hill
overlooking a pond full of ducks and geese. And it's paid for.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!





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