"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Since the last time that anybody disagreed with you.

I said 'state the facts'. Your blather is nothing but a bunch
of pacifist, pinko, putrid, pusillanimous perfidy. Puck off!

Whassamatter? Are you trying to follow Bobsprit off the deep end?

You wrote/asked:-
"Since when is it Anti-American to state the facts?"

My answer (above) made sense. I was merely hilighting your recent inability
to conduct a rational debate.

Lately, when somebody disagrees with you, you call them anti-American. This
is a completely irrational response, especially when you consider that most
of the people who supported the US position on Afghanistan, are against the
current action in Iraq. I assume that you are reduced to defending Bush
because you are unable to deal with the fact that your President lied to
you. You have no real facts to back up your position, so you constantly
fall back on meaningless ad-hominems. The fact that you voted for a man
who appeared to be a bit stupid and who couldn't even put a simple sentence
together has probably had an enormous effect on your self-confidence.


Face reality Neal. Bush is every bit as stupid as he looks and sounds.


Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message
Face reality Neal. Bush is every bit as stupid as he looks and sounds.


Yes sir! Try telling that to Saddam Hussein and Uday and Qusay.
Try telling that to Osama bin Laden. Try telling that to Al Gore.

You know nothing. The deaths of the Saddam Sadists will go
a long way towards helping Iraqis who feared the regime to
get over their fears and start living normal and productive
lives. It will also help them speak up against Saddam and
his regime and might result in the old man being flushed out
and eliminated.

Oh, but I forgot, since Saddam has not been found you also
claim he does not exist and never existed just like his
WMDs. If only you knew what a laughing stock you are.

Go shear a sheep or two, Putz!


"Oz1" wrote in message ...
They chased and caught Saddams sons to bolster their image in the US,
it will change nothing in Iraq. The US is still seen as an invader and
occupier not a savior!

We don't have much desire to explore little rat countries. When
one is used to eating prime Black Angus steak everyday one
does not get an appetite for sheep burgers.


"Oz1" wrote in message ...
BTW like Jocks you know nothing about Oz..must be a requirement to
being a patriot..a closed inward looking mindset.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
Face reality Neal. Bush is every bit as stupid as he looks and sounds.


Yes sir! Try telling that to Saddam Hussein and Uday and Qusay.
Try telling that to Osama bin Laden. Try telling that to Al Gore.

Why would I want to tell that to your list of wasters?

Are you stupid enough to believe that I support anybody on your childish
little list?


Wake up, Neal. This is about the integrity of our leaders. This is about
their ability to sacrifice our soldiers lives to promote their own narrow
interests. This is about Truth, Morality and Decency.


Did you see Rumsfeld on the TV today? He was actually dancing for joy at
the beginning of the news conference. He was justifiably pleased about the
deaths of Saddam's sons. He must have been very grateful that the three
American soldiers who were killed this morning were "militarily
insignificant".


Perhaps JL will update his list. It would be interesting to know how old
those boys were.


A few weeks ago, US casualities were averaging 1 death every 2 days. That
figure is rising, and at the same time the public are becoming accustomed to
the news. As one reporter said today :-
"..... But then again, a few weeks ago the death
of an American soldier in Iraq would have been
in the first paragraph of this dispatch rather than
the ninth. And that, in a sense, tells you the whole story."


I know that this represents a biased view but, it does contain a grain of
truth.


I hope that Saddam's sons were in some way organising the resistance, and
that their deaths will lead to a reduction in the death toll. Time will
tell.



Regards


Donal
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and undertake lying as a
matter of general practice.

And what is it called when Canadian citizens smuggle stuff back to Ontario from US grocery and department stores? And don't
deny it...remember I have inside Candian contacts of the blood variety....
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s/v Chanteuse
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

You have a boat in Tonga?


No...I don't have any wish to go to Tonga....
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katysails
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Your view is unwarranted and unwelcome. Does it never occur
to you that 'those boys' are volunteers who are patriots who
signed up for military service? It might be different if they were
draftees who were not where they wanted to be. But, that is
not the case. These fine patriots died fighting for their country.
They deserve better than having rabble like you demean their
sacrifice.

I take it that you also consider them to be "militarily insignificant"?
Your response suggests that you would prefer to ignore their deaths. You
don't want your celebrations to be dampened by the thought of your soldiers
dying.

I think that your boys should be treated with the respect that they deserve.
They volunteered to fight for their country. You seem to expect them to
die for the protection of their lying president's chances of winning another
election.

You do not speak like someone who ever volunteered to sacrifice anything.


Does it never occur to you that the soldiers who die fighting for
what they think is right have families and loved ones whom you
defile every time you second guess motives or give them your
slanted and cowardly view of the world?

Don't you think that Rumsfeld defiled the memories today's dead when he
danced in front of the cameras?



Does it never occur to you to just mind your own business?

AAhhhhhh. It is my business. The UK is tied up in all of this. I live
near London.


Any and all comments coming from third parties are not worth
any response other than a fast rejection. Get your head out of
your ass. You used to have some sense. I wonder what happened
to it. You have no right to judge our leaders. You have no right
to demean our patriots You don't live here and you don't vote.


Peoples' votes don't actually matter in the choice of president, do they?




You don't see me criticizing your leaders even when they are a bunch
of socialists. It's not my business until and unless they attack our
country.

You are attacking our country and you have no right to because
you are a stupid foreigner.

I have never attacked your country.

You're pathetic. Butt out, asshole!


Why do you bother replying to an asshole? Have you sunk so low? You used
to lead everyone about by the rings in their noses. Remember? That's why
I came here in the first place. I respected, and was entertained by, your
debating abilities and your brilliant command of language.


Regards


Donal
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"A man should not mince his words to spare the sensibilities of the thin
skinned, or ignorant."

Umm actually it occurred that most are from depressed rural economic
regions who were unable to get jobs and saw the military as a way to
feed themselves.

Actually, based on statistics that appeared today, earnings and unemployment
are lowest in the agri states. It is worse on the coasts due to losses in hi
tech and services and worse in the south due to eroding manufacturing, but nice
try.

Does it ever occur to you that your leaders never saw action and
regard those boys as numbers "militarily insignificant" numbers?

The statements regarding militarily insignificant losses DO come from military
leaders who, in most cases, have seen action. They are not politicians and not
trained to temper their remarks. The fact is that those losses ARE militarily
insignificant. They are NOT insignificant in human terms. But you knew that
and that the "militarily insignificant" thing is just a hot button term to gain
traction on an issue that is slipping away.

Does it ever occur to you that world peace IS our business, that there
is more to this world than the USA?

I'll give you that. Wise up, Cappy. Remember, though, that you and just about
everyone else relies on the US to keep world peace. Such is the yoke of a sole
superpower.

Sounds like someone's jealous...

Bwahahahaha!

Warmer than a blow up doll.

Plus Neal would not be exhausted each time he had to fill his date with hot
air.

RB