"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Yes... I've never seen a fin keeler that would allow the helm to be left
unlashed or unstopped and make way upwind with the helm free. It won't
happen... not in a month of Sundays. I could care less what trim you
claimed
to have.... it will round up or fall off..... but it will not make ground
to
the waypoint.


Yon can steer Setanta by constantly trimming the sails. Last year I sailed
her for 45 minutes with the tiller left free. The wind was about 10 kts and
dropping. At the end we ended up pointing almost dead downwind, and I had
to use the tiller at that point.



Regards


Donal
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Yes... I've never seen a fin keeler that would allow the helm to be left
unlashed or unstopped and make way upwind with the helm free.

Then you haven't seen a well sailed boat. When Ghost or Alien were "in the
groove" they tend to stay there. Of course this is less likely in chop and
heavy gusts, but it can be done with ease on the LIS.

RB

Unfortunately, no pics of your wife's boat actually sailing.

Are you sure, Skitchy? You may want to check again!
You have no boat.

RB

but most of us are able to convey the truth without relying on such
tangibles.

I say you convey NADA. You talk and talk, but are one of the few who can't and
won't produce a pic of your boat.
There's really only one conclusion. You don't own one.

RB

If you failed to explain it properly to begin with YOU are the only one
who'll
look stupid!
Now go ahead and make something up!!!


No need to.

Uh huh!!! Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Dennis was talking about the America's Cup catamaran with a winged mast.

Dennis wasn't talking about anything, you dopey tool!

Bwahahahahaha! So easy!

RB

Jax never produced a photo or confirmation he owned a boat.... at least to
the group. Odd since he wasn't shy about posing for the camera.

CM

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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| but most of us are able to convey the truth without relying on such
| tangibles.
|
| I say you convey NADA. You talk and talk, but are one of the few who can't
and
| won't produce a pic of your boat.
| There's really only one conclusion. You don't own one.
|
| RB

I'll have to see proof of this since all my experience with many fin keelers
of various sizes would indicate it is impossible upwind. Since you are
familiar and claim to be proficient at this task.... combined with your
excellent photography skills, equipment , opportunity and capability to post
the proof... I ask that you confirm your claim with a video clip of Alien
going to weather, under canvas, the helm free and auto pilot removed, no key
in the ignition and the lever in neutral.... with nobody at the helm....
for even 30 seconds. Heck use any comparable fin keeler....

Without such factual proof... your claim has no basis. I don't even
entertain wind speed or sea state to be a concern....

CM


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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| Yes... I've never seen a fin keeler that would allow the helm to be left
| unlashed or unstopped and make way upwind with the helm free.
|
| Then you haven't seen a well sailed boat. When Ghost or Alien were "in the
| groove" they tend to stay there. Of course this is less likely in chop and
| heavy gusts, but it can be done with ease on the LIS.
|
| RB

The why did you say he did? I don't get it. Are you saying you deliberately lied? Most
people grow out of that by age 8, or they go into politics.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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Dennis was talking about the America's Cup catamaran with a winged mast.

Dennis wasn't talking about anything, you dopey tool!

Bwahahahahaha! So easy!

RB

The why did you say he did? I don't get it. Are you saying you deliberately
lied?

Jeff, you're clearly a fun-loving guy!!! What a gasser!

RB