Yes well the unlashed and free swinging part is the point I have trouble
with. As I've stated to Bob.... I have never seen it done... I have not been
able to do it myself and I doubt it can be done unless the fin keeled vessel
is specially designed or modified to allow it. I certainly can't picture a
C&C 32 managing to do it... and I've offered a challenge to Bob to provide
video footage... which he has kindly agreed to do.

CM



"Oz1" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:06:45 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Yeah... sure Oz.... a fin keeler that makes way upwind on sail set alone
| with the tiller free to swing..... sounds like a bare poles sailing
story
| to me.
|
| CM
|
| Missed the unlashed!
| Still for a few minutes at a time it is possible on a well
| tuned/trimmed boat with no lashing.
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Maybe it was only one second. There was a definite delay.


Are you insane? For the rudder not to have an instant perceptable effect,
Beneteau would be guilty of the all-time worst boat design since the Mac26x.

RB

Properly trimmed sails will ballance the boat and rudder.


huh?

I've sailed for about 10 minutes hands off on a C&C 36 and
a C&C 34. Eventually, the course started changing back and
forth enough to warrant taking back the helm from the sea.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Yes... I've never seen a fin keeler that would allow the helm to be left
unlashed or unstopped and make way upwind with the helm free. It won't
happen... not in a month of Sundays. I could care less what trim you
claimed
to have.... it will round up or fall off..... but it will not make ground
to
the waypoint.

CM

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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| I call Bull****... it can't be done on any fin keeler!
|
| I hope you're not serious.
|
| RB

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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Maybe it was only one second. There was a definite delay.


Are you insane? For the rudder not to have an instant perceptable effect,
Beneteau would be guilty of the all-time worst boat design since the
Mac26x.

Did I sound impressed??

Sheesh! The mainsheet was controlled by a winch on the coachroof, there
was no travellor, the steering was crap, etc. etc.

Bear in mind that this was an 11 year old design. You probably wouldn't
have noticed anything amiss.


Regards


Donal
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100% true. Properly trimmed sails will ballance the boat and rudder.

RB

No kidding.....what a revelation!

Yup. To some.

RB

Bear in mind that this was an 11 year old design. You probably wouldn't
have noticed anything amiss.

Yes, I remember those "slow rudder" designs from the late 80's and early 90's.

Donal, you are INSANE.

RB

According to his response to Loco, it's hi-tech compared to his boat.
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Donal" wrote in message
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Bear in mind that this was an 11 year old design. You probably wouldn't
have noticed anything amiss.


Regards


Donal
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According to his response to Loco, it's hi-tech compared to his boat.

Hey, Steve...got any of those slow acting rudders??!!!
Maybe you can help out Donal like you helped poor scotty with his boat choice!

"If Scotty was interested in resale he bought the wrong boat."

Bwahaahahahahaha!

RB

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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According to his response to Loco, it's hi-tech compared to his boat.

Hey, Steve...got any of those slow acting rudders??!!!
Maybe you can help out Donal like you helped poor scotty with his boat
choice!

"If Scotty was interested in resale he bought the wrong boat."

Bwahaahahahahaha!

Bob, I hope that you are not trying to divert attention away from your poor
performance in this thread.


Let's get back onto the subject. Are you saying that all rudders,
regardless of sizem will produce an immediate course change when pushed full
over?



Regards


Donal
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