if by ''rapid development '', you mean maturing and leaving the group, then
yes, you have my say so.

Scotty

"SkitchNYC" wrote ...
I think I speak for the
group when I say we would all like to see a little more rapid development
from
you.

Ask him to see a copy of his marriage license. Watch the excuses fly.

SV

"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
with little art and no finish.

There are pics of my boat. Pics of the work I did on her. Pics of the
crew
and
my wife.
There are NO pics of your boat. None. You may be Christopher Reeves for
all
we

Unfortunately, no pics of your wife's boat actually sailing. I guess it
is to
be expected from someone in the media biz that a "pic" is proof enough of
anything, but most of us are able to convey the truth without relying on
such
tangibles.

Yup, I knew that.

SV

"Donal" wrote



They are a very nice cruising boat, which has very comfortable
accomodation
for a 31 footer. The 311 is an Oceanis, which is quite different to my
boat.

The last time that I helmed an Oceanis, I thought that there was a serious
problem with the wheel steering. It turned out that I just wasn't used to
the small rudder.

Regards


Donal
--

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Not upwind he wouldn't... not unless his rudder is so stiff as to act as a
friction dampener. Not for ten seconds unless you calculate momentum and
not
for a minute without a locked helm or a bungee cord.

Like I said... regardless of seastate or wind strength.... it can't be
done.


I'm not so sure! If I get a chance I'll try it this weekend.

When you say that it can't be done by sail trim alone, are you assuming
that the sails are going to be set, and left in position? When I say that
I can steer the boat with the sails I mean that the main is being constantly
adjusted, and the jenny less so.


In most wind/sea states I wouldn't be able to hold a steady course, but I
would be able to steer to my destination. That was the purpose of my trials
last year .... to see if I needed an emergency rudder. The result was that
I don't.



Regards


Donal
--

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Yup, I knew that.

SV

"Donal" wrote



They are a very nice cruising boat, which has very comfortable
accomodation
for a 31 footer. The 311 is an Oceanis, which is quite different to my
boat.

The last time that I helmed an Oceanis, I thought that there was a
serious
problem with the wheel steering. It turned out that I just wasn't used
to
the small rudder.

Welcome back, and thanks for giving me the chance to give Bobby the soundest
thrashing that he has had for a few weeks.

It's not over yet.


Regards


Donal
--

I could do it with the Mac.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Yes well the unlashed and free swinging part is the point I have trouble
with. As I've stated to Bob.... I have never seen it done... I have not
been
able to do it myself and I doubt it can be done unless the fin keeled
vessel
is specially designed or modified to allow it. I certainly can't picture a
C&C 32 managing to do it... and I've offered a challenge to Bob to provide
video footage... which he has kindly agreed to do.

CM



"Oz1" wrote in message
...
| On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:06:45 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Yeah... sure Oz.... a fin keeler that makes way upwind on sail set
alone
| with the tiller free to swing..... sounds like a bare poles sailing
story
| to me.
|
| CM
|
| Missed the unlashed!
| Still for a few minutes at a time it is possible on a well
| tuned/trimmed boat with no lashing.
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

You're welcome. Enjoy your trophy.

Scotty

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Yup, I knew that.

SV

"Donal" wrote



They are a very nice cruising boat, which has very comfortable
accomodation
for a 31 footer. The 311 is an Oceanis, which is quite different to
my
boat.

The last time that I helmed an Oceanis, I thought that there was a
serious
problem with the wheel steering. It turned out that I just wasn't
used
to
the small rudder.

Welcome back, and thanks for giving me the chance to give Bobby the
soundest
thrashing that he has had for a few weeks.

It's not over yet.


Regards


Donal
--

"Oz1" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:20:06 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:

. That was the purpose of my trials
last year .... to see if I needed an emergency rudder. The result was
that
I don't.

You do!
Steering by sails is fine in fair conditions but other times you will
need it.


Actually, I think that you are right. The wind on the day that we tried it
was only about 10kts max. However, I did learn a lot by trying it.


Regards


Donal
--

Yup. Close Hauled. Several times actually. More times on
the C&C 34, single reefed 100% jib. Both sails very tired.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
UP WIND?????

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| I've sailed for about 10 minutes hands off on a C&C 36 and
| a C&C 34. Eventually, the course started changing back and
| forth enough to warrant taking back the helm from the sea.
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Yes... I've never seen a fin keeler that would allow the helm to be
left
| unlashed or unstopped and make way upwind with the helm free. It won't
| happen... not in a month of Sundays. I could care less what trim you
| claimed
| to have.... it will round up or fall off..... but it will not make
ground
| to
| the waypoint.
|
| CM
|
| "CANDChelp" wrote in message
| ...
| | I call Bull****... it can't be done on any fin keeler!
| |
| | I hope you're not serious.
| |
| | RB
|
|
|
|

FYI, these were wheeled boats, not tillers.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
UP WIND?????

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| I've sailed for about 10 minutes hands off on a C&C 36 and
| a C&C 34. Eventually, the course started changing back and
| forth enough to warrant taking back the helm from the sea.
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Yes... I've never seen a fin keeler that would allow the helm to be
left
| unlashed or unstopped and make way upwind with the helm free. It won't
| happen... not in a month of Sundays. I could care less what trim you
| claimed
| to have.... it will round up or fall off..... but it will not make
ground
| to
| the waypoint.
|
| CM
|
| "CANDChelp" wrote in message
| ...
| | I call Bull****... it can't be done on any fin keeler!
| |
| | I hope you're not serious.
| |
| | RB
|
|
|
|