Never run downwind?
 

My God, Thom, get a grip. You're going to have a stroke over downwind sailing???? Please go have another drink.

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Never run downwind?
 

You people are hopelessly stupid. You cannot figure
out context means everything when it comes to the
written word. The context clearly was given enough
wind to reach hull speed.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
that is incorrect information for any displacement monohull where
it is always faster to run straight down wind

That my friend is what you said. You said ALWAYS FASTER TO RUN STRAIGHT
DOWNWIND;

You said ALWAYS, you said ALWAYS. Yes you did. You said it, you said it.

You said America Cup racer sail straight downwind, only making slight
adjustment. You said it. Yes you did. You said it

You said ANY DISPLACEMENT MONOHULL. You did, you said it G
You sad ANY. That what you said :^)

As I've said before; "UP YOURS!"

AND; "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!!!"

Ole Thom

Never run downwind?
 

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line.

Sailing the straight line is faster downwind unless the winds
are light and fluky. Given any decent wind the boat with
chute going directly from point to point will beat some
geek chasing lay lines and looking at polar predictions
every time. That's a fact. I suggest you go watch a few
more races and you will see just what I mean.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
My Friend Neal,

Please don't try racing. At times you are enough embarrassement to the
ASA without proving it as a fact. Besides you can't race with those
potted plants sitting on your self. stay on your mooring.

If you know anything about anything, the rating on the "Banana Boat"
would be so slow you'd have to race in the cruising class. That my
friend in a class that doesn't allow Flying Sails. For your information
your Assy. Spinn is a flying sail. Not allowed. However, that blown out
Main of yours might work as a good downwind Chute :^)

Now, about "AM CUPPERS" going downwind. Neal, If you've ever watch the
races, you've must have seen them turn the weather mark where one vessel
will choose a Gybe SET and the other will choose a BEAR AWAY SET. Even
with SPINNAKERS they are working on wind ANGLES for their downwind runs.
They know which way the wind is blowing. They send crew up the mast to
assure this. Why Oh Seaman Supreme, does this happen?

Also, If you have an ASSY you must also be aware that is an off wind
reaching sail. Even poled out it is more efficient cracked off dead
downwind, aren't you?

Ole Thom

Never run downwind?
 

There's something wrong with your server or news client.

I get nothing but garbled text from you.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...

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Never run downwind?
 

That's odd - you're coming through quite clearly:

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The cute nurse has been giving me pills every morning and night
but I fooled her! I hide the pills under my tongue and throw them
out when nobody is looking!
I hope the starship comes again tonight ... it's so much fun when
they beam me to their holodeck so I can go sailing again!

Never run downwind?
 

Here Cappy.... I've reposted it from my server to help you out... buddy! ;-D

CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
| What's going on Neal, did you forget to take your meds again?
|
| Half the time you're saying that gybing downwind never works, and half the
time you're
| saying it works if you're going slower than hull speed.
|
| You claim that you watched the America's Cup on TV, and they always ran
directly to the
| downwind mark; now in uk.rec.sailing you're saying you never watch TV.
Anyone that
| watched the Cup matches knows they gybed through significant angles
downwind.
|
| Last year you wrote that 10 knots winds were so light you had to motor
both ways on your
| Bahamas trip; now you claiming you do hull speed in 10 knots.
|
| You also wrote the only excuse for running an engine was light air, but on
your trip you
| frequently motorsailed against strong headwinds.
|
| So what's going on here, Neal? It would seem that there is a complete
disconnect between
| the real world and what you write.
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| The shortest distance between two points is a straight line.
|
| Sailing the straight line is faster downwind unless the winds
| are light and fluky. Given any decent wind the boat with
| chute going directly from point to point will beat some
| geek chasing lay lines and looking at polar predictions
| every time. That's a fact. I suggest you go watch a few
| more races and you will see just what I mean.
|
| "Thom Stewart" wrote in message
| ...
| My Friend Neal,
|
| Please don't try racing. At times you are enough embarrassement to the
| ASA without proving it as a fact. Besides you can't race with those
| potted plants sitting on your self. stay on your mooring.
|
| If you know anything about anything, the rating on the "Banana Boat"
| would be so slow you'd have to race in the cruising class. That my
| friend in a class that doesn't allow Flying Sails. For your
information
| your Assy. Spinn is a flying sail. Not allowed. However, that blown
out
| Main of yours might work as a good downwind Chute :^)
|
| Now, about "AM CUPPERS" going downwind. Neal, If you've ever watch
the
| races, you've must have seen them turn the weather mark where one
vessel
| will choose a Gybe SET and the other will choose a BEAR AWAY SET.
Even
| with SPINNAKERS they are working on wind ANGLES for their downwind
runs.
| They know which way the wind is blowing. They send crew up the mast to
| assure this. Why Oh Seaman Supreme, does this happen?
|
| Also, If you have an ASSY you must also be aware that is an off wind
| reaching sail. Even poled out it is more efficient cracked off dead
| downwind, aren't you?
|
| Ole Thom
|
|
|
|
|

Never run downwind?
 

Canadian servers don't seem to work either for some reason . . .


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Here Cappy.... I've reposted it from my server to help you out... buddy! ;-D

CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
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Never run downwind?
 

He raced a tricked out J30 often and only saw 10 knots ONCE!

Tell the group what a "tricked out" J30 is. I for one will be waiting.

Just as I thought. You know nothing about the J30. Here's a primer for ya.
http://www.j30.org/
The J30 is far and away more popular than your boat and actually get's one
design races going. As a racer it even has a proper tiller and more tunable
fractional rig.

RB

RB

Never run downwind?
 

The problem is on your side... at least according to everything
I can determine.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Canadian servers don't seem to work either for some reason . . .


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Here Cappy.... I've reposted it from my server to help you out... buddy!
;-D

CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
snipped garbled text

Never run downwind?
 

,Just as I thought. You know nothing about the J30. Here's a primer for ya.
http://www.j30.org/
The J30 is far and away more popular than your boat and actually get's one
design races going. As a racer it even has a proper tiller and more tunable
fractional rig.

Poor attempt at evading the subject. As usual you failed to answer the
question that was asked. I'll ask again. What is a "tricked out" J30. I'll
be waiting again.
To address your irrelevant points however it is more popular in some areas
because of the one design aspect. More tunable? Don't think so. Maybe not
even more adjustable since the Express has inline shrouds, a babystay and an
adjustable backstay. It might be more bendable. I'll take a masthead boat in
average North American wind conditions anyday. The J30 is a slug upwind on the
typical 10kt day with leftover chop.
Now please post what a "tricked out" J30 is and not some wasted link that
doe not answer the question.
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