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Jonathan Ganz July 19th 03 02:19 AM

Never run downwind?
 
He's talking about 50' moored barges.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
,but I still clean it with a little scrub brush
every two weeks just to retain that fine, competitive edge that
allows me to handily beat J/24s and stay even with most 50-
foot cruising boats.


LOL........... Stop!
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




Thomas Stewart July 19th 03 02:49 AM

Never run downwind?
 
Simple,

You're getting worst than Nutsy. "America's Cuppers" sail downwind from
lay line to Layline, Gybing several times in so doing, If it was
faster, why does the windward boat cover the Lee boat sailing for the
Layline. Using your logic ,the trailing boat would gain the lead and
with no trouble passing by going straight downwind

Boy, what a downwind leg it would be between you and CM!!! Oh Yeah!!!!

Ole Thom
P/S Neal I have many, many tapes of America Cupper downwind, Even going
back to the 12 Meters. Everyone with Gybing downwind. I could let you
have one if it would help you

Ole Thom


Thomas Stewart July 19th 03 03:10 AM

Never run downwind?
 
Thanks Steve,

I used a lower wind speed on the 150 angle so I Could use the 30x60
trinagle.
I've had trouble with Simple about exceeding wind speed downwind. I
didn't want to get into exceeding hull speed and surfing all in one
bite. This way I'm able to use visual angle and distances without
working trig formulars.

OT


Capt. Mooron July 19th 03 03:43 AM

Never run downwind?
 

"Thomas Stewart" wrote in message

| Boy, what a downwind leg it would be between you and CM!!! Oh Yeah!!!!

Thom it wouldn't even be a contest... I would be so far ahead of Neal he
would be checking to make sure he had unhitched his mooring painters. In a
DDW leg racing in light to moderate winds I'll broad reach and gybe.... in
really gusty winds or wind speeds in excess of 30 knots it's just plain
safer, quicker and easier to wing on wing and avoid not only the stress on
the rig from a gybe but the loss in momentum and speed from the action
itself.

Nonetheless... I so rarely race anymore that it's a non issue. I'll take the
hassle free goose winged set any day.

CM



CANDChelp July 19th 03 12:07 PM

Never run downwind?
 
75 miles off and return in 3 days? That's 50 miles a day?
Wow, now that's fast!

Do you think I'm leaving from Sandy Hook, Ganzy?

RB

Pony Express July 19th 03 12:24 PM

Never run downwind?
 
No, I would say that it sounds like Jeff and Skitch did your homework.
--
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...


This post proves that Ganzy knows nothing about sailing.
Think about where I am, Ganzy. Now imagine that I leave Saturday at 8:00

am and
I need to return Sunday night.
Think about Hells Gate...can't exactly turn it when I want, now can't I.

Now
imagine that winds are low and I don't want to motor the whole trip.
75 miles offshort and back assuming a direct VMG would be 150 NM plus

waiting
for the tides and possible uncooperative wind to make the gate both ways.
Hmmmm. Sounds like I did my homework.

RB



Jeff Morris July 19th 03 01:14 PM

Never run downwind?
 
You're assuming I gave RB the correct info. It's up to him to double and triple check
everything - this isn't a place where you want to get things wrong. Since I don't transit
NYC often, I always use two different tide/current sources to make sure I didn't go to the
wrong page or column.

-jeff
"Constant Vigilance!" - Frances W. Wright



"Pony Express" wrote in message
...
No, I would say that it sounds like Jeff and Skitch did your homework.
--
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...


This post proves that Ganzy knows nothing about sailing.
Think about where I am, Ganzy. Now imagine that I leave Saturday at 8:00

am and
I need to return Sunday night.
Think about Hells Gate...can't exactly turn it when I want, now can't I.

Now
imagine that winds are low and I don't want to motor the whole trip.
75 miles offshort and back assuming a direct VMG would be 150 NM plus

waiting
for the tides and possible uncooperative wind to make the gate both ways.
Hmmmm. Sounds like I did my homework.

RB





CANDChelp July 19th 03 03:29 PM

Never run downwind?
 
No, I would say that it sounds like Jeff and Skitch did your homework.

Thanks for the complement.

RB

CANDChelp July 19th 03 03:31 PM

Never run downwind?
 
It's up to him to double and triple check
everything - this isn't a place where you want to get things wrong.

Hells gate is simple. Check for the flow and go! The only trouble we ever had
was years ago in the tiny 27 footer, forced down by the CG against the current
after the fireworks display.

RB

Simple Simon July 19th 03 08:09 PM

Never run downwind?
 
Speed has never been and never will be the primary reason to go
to sea. Even those who go to break speed records are doing it
primarily for money and fame. Speed is but a means to an end.

(or, in your case, speed is something you snort up your nose)


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
Only a fool would prefer to go to sea for a circumnavigation
with speed as the primary reason.

Unless speed was the primary reason for going to sea.

RB





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