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Bobsprit July 16th 03 03:05 PM

Still no one!
 
I can imagine it would be quite scary with boats that are big, expensive and
slow to stop.

I tend to worry about the "other guy" more. You just never know what will panic
some poor sailor or powerboater...then they do something really dumb.
I never assume that the other sailor/driver has a clue.

RB

Capt. Mooron July 16th 03 03:09 PM

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Bob it's a great idea if you know how to sail and can handle your boat. It's
the crowning mark of a competent sailor to be able to sail to the dock....
even in an active area. I've taken a 46 ft Charter boat in the BVI's to dock
under sail and did a perfect job of it... several 90 degree turns and a
tight area with over a dozen eye witnesses. [ Like how often will that
happen when you don't screw something up]

I recommend that you keep the engine on and have the sheets to hand with
someone on the halyard when practicing.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I haven't sailed anything that size, but I know it's satisfying to sail a
| 16' dinghy up to a pontoon with perfect speed to stop alongside.
|
| Yup. Learned how to do that on a friends J30. But sailing into a crowded
and
| very active slip area is not usually a great idea.
|
| RB



Bobsprit July 16th 03 03:29 PM

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Bob it's a great idea if you know how to sail and can handle your boat. It's
the crowning mark of a competent sailor to be able to sail to the dock....
even in an active area.

I can sail any boat to the dock and stop her on a dime, fenders gentley kissing
the dock. Still, safe sailing is a better idea. I know that people get nervous
on other boats and they may do something dangerous.
No accidents or injuries after nearly 9 years of sailing!

Capt RB

Bobsprit July 16th 03 03:30 PM

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several 90 degree turns and a
tight area with over a dozen eye witnesses.

I'm afraid I don't require eyewitnesses to know that my boat handling is
superb.

RB

Wally July 16th 03 03:32 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

I can imagine it would be quite scary with boats that are big, expensive

and
slow to stop.


I tend to worry about the "other guy" more. You just never know what will

panic
some poor sailor or powerboater...then they do something really dumb.
I never assume that the other sailor/driver has a clue.


Yup, a safe perspective to have. It surprises me how few (if any) bumps
there are between dinghies when they're at such close quarters.


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




Bobsprit July 16th 03 03:48 PM

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Yup, a safe perspective to have. It surprises me how few (if any) bumps
there are between dinghies when they're at such close quarters.

Dinghy sailors DO have a clue most of the time. It's the big boats and their
owners who are cause for defensive tactics.

RB

Capt. Mooron July 16th 03 03:49 PM

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I understand that the abundance of photos you post of sailing is for our
enjoyment and not to validate your abilities Bob...... BUT........ Mr.
Murphy will insist that each time you dock under sail flawlessly there will
be none to witness the event... but should you screw up a dozen will be on
hand to share the joy. I just happened to be quite proud of the fact that I
not only docked a charter boat on which I had no previous experience in
close maneuvering... but I actually had the good fortune to do it while a
large group of people watched.

I merely commented because I know your past opinion on docking under sail
as being considered a dangerous and risky affair and not to be undertaken by
anyone. I'm glad experience has taught you different. Like MOB drills...
docking under sail drills are required to compliment a well rounded set of
sailing skills.


CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| several 90 degree turns and a
| tight area with over a dozen eye witnesses.
|
| I'm afraid I don't require eyewitnesses to know that my boat handling is
| superb.
|
| RB



Wally July 16th 03 04:05 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Yup, a safe perspective to have. It surprises me how few (if any) bumps
there are between dinghies when they're at such close quarters.


Dinghy sailors DO have a clue most of the time.


I guess so. Being so small, they're quite vulnerable and, although the
occasional swim is part of dinghy life, going swimming isn't desired, as
such, and certainly not in a collision situation. One of my overriding
colregs when dinghy sailing is 'stay out of the way of the big boats'.


It's the big boats and their
owners who are cause for defensive tactics.


Why would that be? Does the owner's stupidity or arrogance increase with
boat size?


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




Simple Simon July 16th 03 04:11 PM

Sailing into a berth!
 


What every, single,, solitary so-called sailor
does to ruin their docking under sail efforts
is to do it with the engine running, 'just in case'.

Nothing spoils a seamanlike job of sailing a
vessel into her berth while having that exhaust
outlet spurting water and smelly diesel fumes.

Real sailors don't need a motor running and at
the ready. There is only ONE reason for a motor
on a sailboat and that is when there is no wind.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
I understand that the abundance of photos you post of sailing is for our
enjoyment and not to validate your abilities Bob...... BUT........ Mr.
Murphy will insist that each time you dock under sail flawlessly there will
be none to witness the event... but should you screw up a dozen will be on
hand to share the joy. I just happened to be quite proud of the fact that I
not only docked a charter boat on which I had no previous experience in
close maneuvering... but I actually had the good fortune to do it while a
large group of people watched.

I merely commented because I know your past opinion on docking under sail
as being considered a dangerous and risky affair and not to be undertaken by
anyone. I'm glad experience has taught you different. Like MOB drills...
docking under sail drills are required to compliment a well rounded set of
sailing skills.


CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| several 90 degree turns and a
| tight area with over a dozen eye witnesses.
|
| I'm afraid I don't require eyewitnesses to know that my boat handling is
| superb.
|
| RB





Wally July 16th 03 04:22 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

More than one. The boom vang is removed.


I'm surprised I didn't spot that, what with the trasnparent mast and the
super-hi-res photograph. (What on earth are you using for a digicam, anyway?
VGA res at least, please.)


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk





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