Excuse Me Bob but....
 

According to Simp, going to the foredeck and back to the cockpit and then to
the mast is too much moving about and lubberly,

Skitch, please let us know . . . .

How was the Coney Island shark feeding trip? Didn't make it, did you?

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

He means the testis of time.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:
It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.

Bull...the proper way is whatever works for you....and you would know about the tests of time...I believe yours is quickly
running out...

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

-- Pick up and secure one mooring painter

Or on your way past the mast you can undo the halyard, loop it under the cleat on the main and walk forward with it...loop it
under a deck cleat, catch the painter, flip the halyard off one cleat then the other and voila! BTW, this does work....I know
it for a fact....
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

He means the testes of time.

I think those ran out a long time ago...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

He has 2?

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:
He means the testes of time.

I think those ran out a long time ago...

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

He has 2?

An assumption, only. I'm sure I wouldn't know.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

It's clearly the incorrect method of sail handling.

1) longer lines mean more friction,
2) turning blocks mean more friction,
more friction means sails don't come down easily,
3) extra length of line means increased
chances of a snag or a jam,
4) longer lines means more expense,
5) longer lines mean increased tripping hazard,
6) roll-up jenny means at least two extra lines
to snag and jam and trip on,
7) leaving the tiller is no problem if the skipper
knows what he's doing,
8) sailboats don't have a bridge - they have a helm,
9) you have to go to the mast anyway to secure and
cover the mainsail so that shoots the hell out of
your 'unsafe' argument.
10) Roll-ups don't roll up too well when they are
flapping in the wind as is the case when one
picks up a mooring.

Idiots and fools including you Moroon. I can understand
ineptitude from the likes of Katy but you should know
better. Shame on you. What a lubberly outfit!



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
It's not only idiotic to work at the mast ... it removes you from the
"bridge" when single handing.

Pick up and secure one mooring painter...... walk to the cockpit and drop
the sails.... coil the sheets and then return to the bow and work your way
back making fast the second mooring painter, bagging sails and placing the
sail cover.

This isn't work Cappy... it's part of sailing.

CM


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| All real sailors do their work at the mast. Leading lines
| back to the cockpit is one of the more lubberly practices
| that has become accepted lately and it's wrong, just plain
| wrong and lubberly. It is done in the name of safety and
| that's just plain stupid thinking. There is nothing unsafe
| about working at the mast to raise and lower both sails.
| It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| All my halyards are run to the cockpit.....
|
| Who the heck has a mast winch anymore?
|
| CM
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| | After making the mooring pendant fast one walks to the mast and cast
| | off both the main and jib halyards and both sails fall right down.
| |
| | Poor Katy would have to drop the main with the jenny slapping her
| | across the head and shoulders and then go back to the cockpit to
| | roll up the stupid wind up sail. Sooooo lubberly, don't cha know?
| |
| |
| | "The_navigator©" wrote in message
| ...
| | Why?
| |
| |
| | Cheers MC
| |
| | Simple Simon wrote:
| | Of course one must
| | have hank-on sails for this procedure to work right so
| | that leaves you out, honey.
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Wrong, crabby Kates! The proper way is the simple, uncomplicated
way and not systems that have extra and unnecessary moving parts,
cost more, result in more failures and dangers etc., etc.

I guess you are the type of person who uses an electric can opener
instead of a hand operated model which is superior in every way.
You probably use a dishwashing machine instead of doing them by
hand and you probably cannot have an orgasm without a vibrator.

That is the fix you have gotten yourself into by you stupid and
pathetic reliance upon unnecessary systems. Real sailors keep
it simple and they live longer, more satisfying lives and that's
a fact. No wonder Moroon is an alcoholic - he thinks and sails
like a woman - he needs something to dull his senses to forget
his lubberly way. You as a woman have an excuse for idiotic
behavior because female brains don't function logically but
Moroon????




"katysails" wrote in message ...
It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.

Bull...the proper way is whatever works for you....and you would know about the tests of time...I believe yours is quickly
running out...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

And it proves you live if an imaginary world if you have
not seen it going on. Either that or you sail even less than
40 hours a year. Some sailor. Ha a hahha h a ha hah ah ah!


"katysails" wrote in message ...

Usually there is a lot of hollering and screaming
going on while the mooring procedure takes place

Like I said...you live in a strange and sad world if that's what you're exposed to all the time...no wonder you're warped.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Of fer cryin' out loud.... I never heard such a line of whining from
someone that purports to be a sailor in my life. I have oversized blocks and
very fair runs... my 12 year old nephew can hoist the main without a winch
required until the last 2 feet of hoist. If you're stupid and clumsy enough
to trip you deserve to fall. Expense is irrelevant when it comes to lines I
don't scrimp on quality. My boat no only has a bridge and a helm I also
have several other locations ..10 Forward, The Libido Deck, 4 Battle
Stations and a "brig".

The only idiot is the person so inexperienced in a variety of sailing
vessels and configurations as to tout "his" system as absolute for use in
any vessel. Stand Down and Stand By One... If I get down there this winter
I'll show you how things work on a proper vessel.

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| It's clearly the incorrect method of sail handling.
|
| 1) longer lines mean more friction,
| 2) turning blocks mean more friction,
| more friction means sails don't come down easily,
| 3) extra length of line means increased
| chances of a snag or a jam,
| 4) longer lines means more expense,
| 5) longer lines mean increased tripping hazard,
| 6) roll-up jenny means at least two extra lines
| to snag and jam and trip on,
| 7) leaving the tiller is no problem if the skipper
| knows what he's doing,
| 8) sailboats don't have a bridge - they have a helm,
| 9) you have to go to the mast anyway to secure and
| cover the mainsail so that shoots the hell out of
| your 'unsafe' argument.
| 10) Roll-ups don't roll up too well when they are
| flapping in the wind as is the case when one
| picks up a mooring.
|
| Idiots and fools including you Moroon. I can understand
| ineptitude from the likes of Katy but you should know
| better. Shame on you. What a lubberly outfit!
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| It's not only idiotic to work at the mast ... it removes you from the
| "bridge" when single handing.
|
| Pick up and secure one mooring painter...... walk to the cockpit and
drop
| the sails.... coil the sheets and then return to the bow and work your
way
| back making fast the second mooring painter, bagging sails and placing
the
| sail cover.
|
| This isn't work Cappy... it's part of sailing.
|
| CM
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| | All real sailors do their work at the mast. Leading lines
| | back to the cockpit is one of the more lubberly practices
| | that has become accepted lately and it's wrong, just plain
| | wrong and lubberly. It is done in the name of safety and
| | that's just plain stupid thinking. There is nothing unsafe
| | about working at the mast to raise and lower both sails.
| | It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| | All my halyards are run to the cockpit.....
| |
| | Who the heck has a mast winch anymore?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | After making the mooring pendant fast one walks to the mast and
cast
| | | off both the main and jib halyards and both sails fall right down.
| | |
| | | Poor Katy would have to drop the main with the jenny slapping her
| | | across the head and shoulders and then go back to the cockpit to
| | | roll up the stupid wind up sail. Sooooo lubberly, don't cha know?
| | |
| | |
| | | "The_navigator©" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Why?
| | |
| | |
| | | Cheers MC
| | |
| | | Simple Simon wrote:
| | | Of course one must
| | | have hank-on sails for this procedure to work right so
| | | that leaves you out, honey.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

The only thing you can possibly show me is the high failure rate
and increased danger involved with unnecessary systems.

On second thought, there are TWO things you can show me -
the above and how to live 24/7 while legally drunk.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Of fer cryin' out loud.... I never heard such a line of whining from
someone that purports to be a sailor in my life. I have oversized blocks and
very fair runs... my 12 year old nephew can hoist the main without a winch
required until the last 2 feet of hoist. If you're stupid and clumsy enough
to trip you deserve to fall. Expense is irrelevant when it comes to lines I
don't scrimp on quality. My boat no only has a bridge and a helm I also
have several other locations ..10 Forward, The Libido Deck, 4 Battle
Stations and a "brig".

The only idiot is the person so inexperienced in a variety of sailing
vessels and configurations as to tout "his" system as absolute for use in
any vessel. Stand Down and Stand By One... If I get down there this winter
I'll show you how things work on a proper vessel.

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| It's clearly the incorrect method of sail handling.
|
| 1) longer lines mean more friction,
| 2) turning blocks mean more friction,
| more friction means sails don't come down easily,
| 3) extra length of line means increased
| chances of a snag or a jam,
| 4) longer lines means more expense,
| 5) longer lines mean increased tripping hazard,
| 6) roll-up jenny means at least two extra lines
| to snag and jam and trip on,
| 7) leaving the tiller is no problem if the skipper
| knows what he's doing,
| 8) sailboats don't have a bridge - they have a helm,
| 9) you have to go to the mast anyway to secure and
| cover the mainsail so that shoots the hell out of
| your 'unsafe' argument.
| 10) Roll-ups don't roll up too well when they are
| flapping in the wind as is the case when one
| picks up a mooring.
|
| Idiots and fools including you Moroon. I can understand
| ineptitude from the likes of Katy but you should know
| better. Shame on you. What a lubberly outfit!
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| It's not only idiotic to work at the mast ... it removes you from the
| "bridge" when single handing.
|
| Pick up and secure one mooring painter...... walk to the cockpit and
drop
| the sails.... coil the sheets and then return to the bow and work your
way
| back making fast the second mooring painter, bagging sails and placing
the
| sail cover.
|
| This isn't work Cappy... it's part of sailing.
|
| CM
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| | All real sailors do their work at the mast. Leading lines
| | back to the cockpit is one of the more lubberly practices
| | that has become accepted lately and it's wrong, just plain
| | wrong and lubberly. It is done in the name of safety and
| | that's just plain stupid thinking. There is nothing unsafe
| | about working at the mast to raise and lower both sails.
| | It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| | All my halyards are run to the cockpit.....
| |
| | Who the heck has a mast winch anymore?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | After making the mooring pendant fast one walks to the mast and
cast
| | | off both the main and jib halyards and both sails fall right down.
| | |
| | | Poor Katy would have to drop the main with the jenny slapping her
| | | across the head and shoulders and then go back to the cockpit to
| | | roll up the stupid wind up sail. Sooooo lubberly, don't cha know?
| | |
| | |
| | | "The_navigator©" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Why?
| | |
| | |
| | | Cheers MC
| | |
| | | Simple Simon wrote:
| | | Of course one must
| | | have hank-on sails for this procedure to work right so
| | | that leaves you out, honey.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
| Real sailors keep
| it simple and they live longer, more satisfying lives and that's
| a fact. No wonder Moroon is an alcoholic - he thinks and sails
| like a woman - he needs something to dull his senses to forget
| his lubberly way. You as a woman have an excuse for idiotic
| behavior because female brains don't function logically but
| Moroon????

This from someone so deprived of females, so desperate for feminine
attention that it sets off warning bells for miles around so intensely that
even the Digital Divas searching for companionship run at the thought of his
interest. While you can't find a sailing mate for love nor money... I am
surrounded by females that enjoy my company. I'm confident enough to enjoy
my single status and have female company whenever it suits me. I'm not
intimidated by women and I do appreciate their views, our conversations and
their ability to compliment the versatility of a proper crew. I embrace them
and welcome their interest in sail... while you plaster your tiny cabin with
downloaded photos of females that would not offer you the time of day.
Pathetic really....

CM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| The only thing you can possibly show me is the high failure rate
| and increased danger involved with unnecessary systems.

Funny... I've never had a failure.

|
| On second thought, there are TWO things you can show me -
| the above and how to live 24/7 while legally drunk.

Well first off you'll have to learn to hold your liquor..... and I've never
met a Yank a Canadian girl couldn't drink under the table. Then you'll have
to learn how to hoist a Bong... that's the secret to operating while
drinking.

CM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Good job avoiding the sailing content of which you are
a proven inept example of what sailing is all about. Since
you cannot support your slothful sailing ways you had
to resort to a lame, personal attack which simply proves
my point that your methods are that of a woman.




"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message

The proper way is the simple, uncomplicated
way and not systems that have extra and unnecessary moving parts,
cost more, result in more failures and dangers etc., etc.

| Real sailors keep
| it simple and they live longer, more satisfying lives and that's
| a fact. No wonder Moroon is an alcoholic - he thinks and sails
| like a woman - he needs something to dull his senses to forget
| his lubberly way. You as a woman have an excuse for idiotic
| behavior because female brains don't function logically but
| Moroon????

This from someone so deprived of females, so desperate for feminine
attention that it sets off warning bells for miles around so intensely that
even the Digital Divas searching for companionship run at the thought of his
interest. While you can't find a sailing mate for love nor money... I am
surrounded by females that enjoy my company. I'm confident enough to enjoy
my single status and have female company whenever it suits me. I'm not
intimidated by women and I do appreciate their views, our conversations and
their ability to compliment the versatility of a proper crew. I embrace them
and welcome their interest in sail... while you plaster your tiny cabin with
downloaded photos of females that would not offer you the time of day.
Pathetic really....

CM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Bong? Hah ahaha hah ha hh ahahhahhhahahhahahh!

You and Cheech and Chong! I don't do drugs and
if I did, I certainly would not be depraved enough to
boast about it.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| The only thing you can possibly show me is the high failure rate
| and increased danger involved with unnecessary systems.

Funny... I've never had a failure.

|
| On second thought, there are TWO things you can show me -
| the above and how to live 24/7 while legally drunk.

Well first off you'll have to learn to hold your liquor..... and I've never
met a Yank a Canadian girl couldn't drink under the table. Then you'll have
to learn how to hoist a Bong... that's the secret to operating while
drinking.

CM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

You and Cheech and Chong!

Cheech has been sailing for longer than you and on better boats. My friend owns
his old boat, a Pacific Seacraft 34 called Lonely Knights. I think he sails a
big J-boat now.

RB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

What sailing content... your feeble but truthful complaint about simplicity
being key in sailing that took a half of one sentence in a paragraph??? or
the dishwasher, can opener lament you went on about.

Look.. I picked up right where my name was mentioned.... I'm not about to
get into a bitch fest when you are getting in touch with your feminine side
by arguing with a woman..... you ain't gonna win even if God is on your
side... Deal with It!

No wonder you can't get laid!!

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Good job avoiding the sailing content of which you are
| a proven inept example of what sailing is all about. Since
| you cannot support your slothful sailing ways you had
| to resort to a lame, personal attack which simply proves
| my point that your methods are that of a woman.
|
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
|
| The proper way is the simple, uncomplicated
| way and not systems that have extra and unnecessary moving parts,
| cost more, result in more failures and dangers etc., etc.
|
| | Real sailors keep
| | it simple and they live longer, more satisfying lives and that's
| | a fact. No wonder Moroon is an alcoholic - he thinks and sails
| | like a woman - he needs something to dull his senses to forget
| | his lubberly way. You as a woman have an excuse for idiotic
| | behavior because female brains don't function logically but
| | Moroon????
|
| This from someone so deprived of females, so desperate for feminine
| attention that it sets off warning bells for miles around so intensely
that
| even the Digital Divas searching for companionship run at the thought of
his
| interest. While you can't find a sailing mate for love nor money... I am
| surrounded by females that enjoy my company. I'm confident enough to
enjoy
| my single status and have female company whenever it suits me. I'm not
| intimidated by women and I do appreciate their views, our conversations
and
| their ability to compliment the versatility of a proper crew. I embrace
them
| and welcome their interest in sail... while you plaster your tiny cabin
with
| downloaded photos of females that would not offer you the time of day.
| Pathetic really....
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

I can get laid any time I want to get laid. I just don't
feel like spending the money on it right now.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
What sailing content... your feeble but truthful complaint about simplicity
being key in sailing that took a half of one sentence in a paragraph??? or
the dishwasher, can opener lament you went on about.

Look.. I picked up right where my name was mentioned.... I'm not about to
get into a bitch fest when you are getting in touch with your feminine side
by arguing with a woman..... you ain't gonna win even if God is on your
side... Deal with It!

No wonder you can't get laid!!

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Good job avoiding the sailing content of which you are
| a proven inept example of what sailing is all about. Since
| you cannot support your slothful sailing ways you had
| to resort to a lame, personal attack which simply proves
| my point that your methods are that of a woman.
|
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
|
| The proper way is the simple, uncomplicated
| way and not systems that have extra and unnecessary moving parts,
| cost more, result in more failures and dangers etc., etc.
|
| | Real sailors keep
| | it simple and they live longer, more satisfying lives and that's
| | a fact. No wonder Moroon is an alcoholic - he thinks and sails
| | like a woman - he needs something to dull his senses to forget
| | his lubberly way. You as a woman have an excuse for idiotic
| | behavior because female brains don't function logically but
| | Moroon????
|
| This from someone so deprived of females, so desperate for feminine
| attention that it sets off warning bells for miles around so intensely
that
| even the Digital Divas searching for companionship run at the thought of
his
| interest. While you can't find a sailing mate for love nor money... I am
| surrounded by females that enjoy my company. I'm confident enough to
enjoy
| my single status and have female company whenever it suits me. I'm not
| intimidated by women and I do appreciate their views, our conversations
and
| their ability to compliment the versatility of a proper crew. I embrace
them
| and welcome their interest in sail... while you plaster your tiny cabin
with
| downloaded photos of females that would not offer you the time of day.
| Pathetic really....
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Fine if you don't smoke... I respect that... but you stated that you
wouldn't boast about using pot. I didn't boast.. I made a statement.

No Cappy... teenage girls don't attract my attention at all. I view them as
children until they are at least 18. The legal age in Canada is 16. What
would you find appealing about an inexperienced, clumsy young thing is
beyond me. What attracts me is a woman who is self assured and confident,
assertive and comfortable with her sexuality. You don't find those traits
until they have time to mature a bit. Leave the sixteen year olds to
explore their sexuality with their own age group. They can't go dancing at
the club, they can't get into the seaside bar, they can't carry on an
interesting discussion, they can't pay their own way... really... all they
have to offer is their innocence. Big Deal.... I've seen 30 year olds with
way more to offer in body and spirit. I consider a 20 year old as robbing
the cradle....

CM




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| People who smoke pot are stupid.
| Smoking marijuana causes cancer just like cigarette smoking.
|
| It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that smoking
| anything is not good for the lungs and body. I've got nothing against
| eating some brownies laced with tetrahydrocannabinoids but I
| will never again smoke anything legal - or illegal.
|
| That's the difference between me and people like you. I
| have the ability to live and learn while you and your ilk
| just continue with the same program - destructive or not.
|
| One other thing, any man who says they are not attracted to
| girls old enough to menstruate are damned liars. If these
| girls happen to be 13 or 14, so what? It is natural for a man
| to be sexually attracted to them. One need only pay attention
| to the local laws that establish legal age to stay out of trouble
| with the law.
|
| The USA and Canada are ridiculous when it comes to setting
| a legal age. 18 years old to legally have sex. Balderdash! Talk
| about letting religion rule the roost. Biologically speaking the
| saying "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" is 100%
| correct.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| You were certainly "depraved enough to proclaim your hate of blacks and
| Hispanics.... you were brave enough to proclaim your attraction to
under
| age girls... you boasted of having illegal Cuban Cigars! You do all the
| other drugs.. caffeine, alcohol, aspirin, etc..... why be two faced and
| hide the fact you smoke pot? I done a lot of recreational drugs in my
| lifetime... probably so have many folks posting here. Pot isn't
harmful...
| it's illegal down your way..Yes! ... so what, lots of stuff you do is
| illegal. What happened to the renegade? The Pirate? ... they were really
| after the Rum Runners during prohibition... now the Rum Runners and
their
| ships are famous.
|
| Plus it's no big deal up here as long as you aren't selling it.... you
can
| have an once for personal consumption. It's about time the USA got with
the
| friggin' program and legalized pot!
|
| CM
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| | Bong? Hah ahaha hah ha hh ahahhahhhahahhahahh!
| |
| | You and Cheech and Chong! I don't do drugs and
| | if I did, I certainly would not be depraved enough to
| | boast about it.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | The only thing you can possibly show me is the high failure rate
| | | and increased danger involved with unnecessary systems.
| |
| | Funny... I've never had a failure.
| |
| | |
| | | On second thought, there are TWO things you can show me -
| | | the above and how to live 24/7 while legally drunk.
| |
| | Well first off you'll have to learn to hold your liquor..... and
I've
| never
| | met a Yank a Canadian girl couldn't drink under the table. Then
you'll
| have
| | to learn how to hoist a Bong... that's the secret to operating while
| | drinking.
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

I guess you are the type of person who uses an electric can opener
instead of a hand operated model which is superior in every way.
You probably use a dishwashing machine instead of doing them by
hand and you probably cannot have an orgasm without a vibrator.


Where do you get this crap? First of all, I very rarely open cans and when I do I use a manual because the electric ones shave
steel shavings into the food. Secondly, I had 5 kids. Why the heck would I need or want a dishwasher? When they left there
was the two of us. It would take 3-4 days to make a dishwaher worthwhile...You just make this stuff up so you can blather
away....Like I've said before, your rendition of me and the reality of me have nothing in common except for the fact that we are
both female.
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

you ain't gonna win even if God is on your
side... Deal with It!

She isn't on his side....
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

And it proves you live if an imaginary world if you have
not seen it going on.

Percentage wise? Nope. Yes, there are people who yell and scream about anything at all...it has very little to do with sailing
and a lot to do with the way they relate to one another. For some people, that's just the way they communicate. You don't even
have anyone to communicate with (except the cat) so you don't know how you'd react. But we all do....
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Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

I notice Katy did not deny the vibrator part. He he!
She simply cannot compete with my advanced
intellect and cutting edge insults. I've got her on
the ropes.


"katysails" wrote in message ...

I guess you are the type of person who uses an electric can opener
instead of a hand operated model which is superior in every way.
You probably use a dishwashing machine instead of doing them by
hand and you probably cannot have an orgasm without a vibrator.


Where do you get this crap? First of all, I very rarely open cans and when I do I use a manual because the electric ones
shave
steel shavings into the food. Secondly, I had 5 kids. Why the heck would I need or want a dishwasher? When they left there
was the two of us. It would take 3-4 days to make a dishwaher worthwhile...You just make this stuff up so you can blather
away....Like I've said before, your rendition of me and the reality of me have nothing in common except for the fact that we
are
both female.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

katysails wrote:

snip First of all, I very rarely open cans and when I do I use a manual because the electric ones shave
steel shavings into the food.

Thus denying yourself a useful Fe supplement!

FT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

I've got her on
the ropes.

You wish...the vibrator part was so stupid that I ignored it...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Thus denying yourself a useful Fe supplement!

I use a cast iron skillet....hate pciking tin out from between my teeth....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

They are too. The proliferation of kiddie porn proves it.

wrote in message ...

Sorry, but MEN are not attracted to females in the larval stage.

BB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Oz1 wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:02:20 +0930, Flying Tadpole
wrote:

middle=aged members on this list who destroyed their brains in
the '60s and '70s by using copper implements (and jewellery, and
bracelets, and...).

Flying Tadpole

and water pipes?


Hmmm...I would have thought that the hemp smoke in a water pipe
would help the oxide barrier to establish and prevent any copper
being inhaled...

FT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Well, it certainly isn't little kids putting it on the Internet.
And, it isn't women. That leaves men. Dolt!


wrote in message ...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:32:17 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote:


They are too. The proliferation of kiddie porn proves it.

I said MEN. That obviously leaves you out.

BB


wrote in message ...

Sorry, but MEN are not attracted to females in the larval stage.

BB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

They are too. The proliferation of kiddie porn proves it.

I said MEN. That obviously leaves you out.

Sadly, Billy, you're wrong about the "larval stage" or not being honest. The
entire media industry is involved in kiddie porn on multiple levels.

RB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

On 21 Jul 2003 17:15:47 GMT, (CANDChelp) wrote this
crap:

You and Cheech and Chong!

Cheech has been sailing for longer than you and on better boats. My friend owns
his old boat, a Pacific Seacraft 34 called Lonely Knights. I think he sails a
big J-boat now.

RB

I saw him in "Yellowbeard"




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

of course, one can easily pick those
middle=aged members on this list who destroyed their brains in
the '60s and '70s by using copper implements (and jewellery, and
bracelets, and...).

Copper turns your skin green..not very attractive, even for a pseudo-hippy...silver was so much more attraactive and if it
started to turn your arm or neck black, yoiu could always coat it with a layer of clear nail polish....

Harkening back (sailing content...Harken) people actually threw out their staunless steel? I've had my RevereWear for years
upon years...that aluminum stuff is crap to cook in and most of it is coated in Teflon....If I wanted non-skid food, I'd drink a
cup of olive oil with my meals...it's be healthier....(if not very interesting the next morning...)

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Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

NOOOOOOoooooooo! ironwear, before aluminum took over post WW2.


We;;, there you have it...I wasn't born until post WW2...I knew I had an excuse...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Mature MEN are not sexually interested in 12 year olds. That doesn't mean that
there are not plenty of cases of arrested development around, like you and
Neal,
who think this is somehow "normal".

Billy Jane, I don't approve of kiddie porn, but sadly, if you study history at
all, sex with 12-15 year olds is quite common and normal for the species.

Sorry.

RB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Given enough time frustrated
like they are and they do eventually go ballistic.

Look at poor Billy's posts! He just wrote something very disturbing about
hurting 14 year old teens.
He's already there.

RB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Gladly.

My boat heaves-to with no forereaching when the tiller is tied
off so the rudder is 90 degrees to her centerline. This means I
can sail close hauled to a point directly upwind of a mooring,
come up and around so the jib backs, tie the tiller off at 90
degrees and drift about one knot or less depending on the
wind down on the mooring ball.

I then grab the mooring pendant and make the line fast to a
cleat on the bow. This happens while the jib is still backed
and the vessel is still drifting sideways. Then I walk back to
the mast where both the jib and main halyard are made fast
to their respective cleats. I cast off the jib halyard as soon
as the vessel snubs up on the mooring and points her prow
into the wind. The jib falls straight down on the foredeck.

Then I let go the main halyard and the main falls straight
down on the boom since the wind is still directly on the
bow. This all takes place in a flash as if both sails are
falling almost simultaneously. I keep the mast slot lubed
with silicone spray so the slugs don't hand up. The halyards
cause no friction because they don't go snaking through
various turning blocks to the cockpit as on those with
lubberly boats. Also, I have wire to rope halyards and
these run very, very free. The advantage of this type
halyard combined with hank-on jib means it is very
fast to drop the sail. Winding up a headsail while it is
flapping usually cause trouble for the wind-up crowd
while a little flapping assists a hank-on jib to fall.



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

Please explain your techigue of heaving-to to drift sideward?

Also, explain the advantage of "Hanked sails in a heave-to attitude?

OT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

The main does not stay on the boom nice and flaked.
Usually there is a flap or two on one side and the
rest of the sail on the other. It is an easy task to
then flake the sail on the boom starting from the
outhaul and adding gaskets till the sail is secure
and ready for the sail cover.

Keep up the anchoring under sail lessons
and I like the fact that you have them do it
with both sails still up. This is important in
case the anchor does not bite and you have
to get underway again in a hurry for some
reason like dragging down on another boat.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Interesting, but how do you keep the mainsail from falling
off the boom? Even in light wind, this is going to be an
issue. Of course, you would have sail ties ready, but it
would still be a fair mess, even with hand flaking from
the mast.

On the Catalina 27 that I teach on, I have the students
anchor under sail. Since we're picking an area that
generally has some blanket from the wind, flogging jib
sheets aren't an issue. We just head up close hauled,
then turn into it, slowing the boat to zero, deploy, and
let the boat back down while letter out rode. Cello, it's
done.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Gladly.

My boat heaves-to with no forereaching when the tiller is tied
off so the rudder is 90 degrees to her centerline. This means I
can sail close hauled to a point directly upwind of a mooring,
come up and around so the jib backs, tie the tiller off at 90
degrees and drift about one knot or less depending on the
wind down on the mooring ball.

I then grab the mooring pendant and make the line fast to a
cleat on the bow. This happens while the jib is still backed
and the vessel is still drifting sideways. Then I walk back to
the mast where both the jib and main halyard are made fast
to their respective cleats. I cast off the jib halyard as soon
as the vessel snubs up on the mooring and points her prow
into the wind. The jib falls straight down on the foredeck.

Then I let go the main halyard and the main falls straight
down on the boom since the wind is still directly on the
bow. This all takes place in a flash as if both sails are
falling almost simultaneously. I keep the mast slot lubed
with silicone spray so the slugs don't hand up. The halyards
cause no friction because they don't go snaking through
various turning blocks to the cockpit as on those with
lubberly boats. Also, I have wire to rope halyards and
these run very, very free. The advantage of this type
halyard combined with hank-on jib means it is very
fast to drop the sail. Winding up a headsail while it is
flapping usually cause trouble for the wind-up crowd
while a little flapping assists a hank-on jib to fall.



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Neal,

Please explain your techigue of heaving-to to drift sideward?

Also, explain the advantage of "Hanked sails in a heave-to attitude?

OT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Hmmm.. isn't the main a mess on deck? I prefer not to walk
on sails, since they're pretty slippery. I suppose you could
just bag the sail on itself. We've done that a few times when
there wasn't a lot of time to flake.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


The main does not stay on the boom nice and flaked.
Usually there is a flap or two on one side and the
rest of the sail on the other. It is an easy task to
then flake the sail on the boom starting from the
outhaul and adding gaskets till the sail is secure
and ready for the sail cover.

It's a good practice in the bay. I also teach on a lake,
but there you have no choice, since they don't allow
any engines on the lake. Of course, the boats are
smaller and the wind is lighter.

Keep up the anchoring under sail lessons
and I like the fact that you have them do it
with both sails still up. This is important in
case the anchor does not bite and you have
to get underway again in a hurry for some
reason like dragging down on another boat.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Interesting, but how do you keep the mainsail from falling
off the boom? Even in light wind, this is going to be an
issue. Of course, you would have sail ties ready, but it
would still be a fair mess, even with hand flaking from
the mast.

On the Catalina 27 that I teach on, I have the students
anchor under sail. Since we're picking an area that
generally has some blanket from the wind, flogging jib
sheets aren't an issue. We just head up close hauled,
then turn into it, slowing the boat to zero, deploy, and
let the boat back down while letter out rode. Cello, it's
done.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Gladly.

My boat heaves-to with no forereaching when the tiller is tied
off so the rudder is 90 degrees to her centerline. This means I
can sail close hauled to a point directly upwind of a mooring,
come up and around so the jib backs, tie the tiller off at 90
degrees and drift about one knot or less depending on the
wind down on the mooring ball.

I then grab the mooring pendant and make the line fast to a
cleat on the bow. This happens while the jib is still backed
and the vessel is still drifting sideways. Then I walk back to
the mast where both the jib and main halyard are made fast
to their respective cleats. I cast off the jib halyard as soon
as the vessel snubs up on the mooring and points her prow
into the wind. The jib falls straight down on the foredeck.

Then I let go the main halyard and the main falls straight
down on the boom since the wind is still directly on the
bow. This all takes place in a flash as if both sails are
falling almost simultaneously. I keep the mast slot lubed
with silicone spray so the slugs don't hand up. The halyards
cause no friction because they don't go snaking through
various turning blocks to the cockpit as on those with
lubberly boats. Also, I have wire to rope halyards and
these run very, very free. The advantage of this type
halyard combined with hank-on jib means it is very
fast to drop the sail. Winding up a headsail while it is
flapping usually cause trouble for the wind-up crowd
while a little flapping assists a hank-on jib to fall.



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Neal,

Please explain your techigue of heaving-to to drift sideward?

Also, explain the advantage of "Hanked sails in a heave-to attitude?

OT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

When people generally only lived to be 35-45 years old and you were ancient at 60 sex was "normal" at 14-15 to keep up the
population. It is no longer necessary to populate and with longer lifespans and better health, emotional maturity now lags
behind...the 14-15 year old girl of even 100 years ago was more emotionally mature and prepared to have a family then the
typical 14=15 year old of today. It was a necessity of the species. We have now adapted out of that faze and no longer need to
force our children into early maturity in order to survive as a species. Those who don't heed adaptation often gpo extinct.
Yay. No more Neal.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Don't you wish? I consider it my duty to plague you until
my dying day which isn't until 2046 according to a link
that was posted here not too long ago.


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Yay. No more Neal.