Tink:
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Landlubbers call them ropes, they're called lines! TnT
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Sorry to disappoint, sailors call them sheets.

Wilf

"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

KMAN wrote:
in article D353e.866271$8l.306388@pd7tw1no, frtzw906 at

wrote on 4/1/05 12:34 AM:

The best thing to do is simply start. Introduce a new thread and
see where
it goes. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world to
provide
the
type of discussion you are looking for.

KMAN:
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That being said, the dang water is still frozen here, so aside from
telling
you about getting my gear organized, there isn't much to say for
another
couple of weeks
================

I think I'm going to bolt my roofrack contraption together
tomorrow.

Wilf
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I think I will inspect various ropes for evidence of fraying.

Landlubbers call them ropes, they're called lines! TnT

No, I'm talking about ropes. I've got various ropes in the shed.

KMAN wrote in
:

in article D353e.866271$8l.306388@pd7tw1no, frtzw906 at
wrote on 4/1/05 12:34 AM:

The best thing to do is simply start. Introduce a new thread and see
where it goes. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world
to provide the type of discussion you are looking for.

KMAN:
===========
That being said, the dang water is still frozen here, so aside from
telling you about getting my gear organized, there isn't much to say
for another couple of weeks
================

I think I'm going to bolt my roofrack contraption together tomorrow.

Wilf
===========

I think I will inspect various ropes for evidence of fraying.


I'm going to drill about 16 holes in the deck of my cedar strip kayak.

I've never cared much for the deck fittings (web loops) I originally
installed so I'm going to build in some recessed fittings. The fittings are
simply small pieces of mahogany, about an inch long, 1/4" wide, and 1/2"
deep with two holes drilled in the side. The holes in the deck will be
drilled with a 1" forstner bit, and the a 2" (or so) diameter piece of wood
(probably red cedar) will cover the hole under the deck and will be epoxied
in place. Then I'll use the same forstner bit do drill into the under deck
covers to a depth such that the fittings will be flush with the top of the
deck. I'll epoxy the fittings into place, then sand the deck around the
fittings for a piece of fiberglass cloth covering the fittings. After
filling in weave, the rest of the deck and hull will be get a light sanding
before putting on several coats of varnish. When I'm done the boat will
have a much nice deck rigging layout and will likely look better than the
day I first launched it.

I'm not a very handy guy and the lack of a drawing doesn't help a
dimwit like me figure this out. But here's my question: won't you have
16 holes in which water will pool? If so, I'm guessing that it's not an
issue?

Wilf
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On 31 Mar 2005 09:38:52 -0800, "
wrote:

I've been waiting patiently to read about paddling and touring trips.
Really tired of this other subject that keeps popping up.
Let's hear about water sports...
I'm a canoest, and seakayaker...and want to read and talk about
that...isn't that why we signed up here? If not let me know, and I'll
unsubscribe and move on...

Let's give it a go..eh?


Shall I say, "You first." or "Bub bye now." ?

Instead of whining and threatening to deprive us of your, possibly
otherwise nice, company, why don't you tell us what and where you
paddle and what's good or bad about it?

All I paddle are a canoe (rental the last couple of years since I gave
away my stipper) and a recreational Old Town Otter kayak and (when I
lose 5 more pounds?) an old Perception Dancer that I use like a
recreational kayak.

I do them on lakes and the St. Croix River in MN/WI. Like them all,
Lke the places except that too many other people in canoes like the
'Croix on warm weekends. But the backwaters remove most of the
aluminum hatch from sight and sound.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

in article , Cyli at
lid wrote on 4/1/05 12:08 AM:


Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

Excellent sig!

I too speak to squirrels. Minnows do not worship me, however.

I once caught a speckled trout that was so cute it put my off fishing.
Apparently there are gar pike in the area where I've recently moved and that
has me a bit excited about fish again.

Like most people I am almost entirely harmless until there comes a time when
I am not.

RBC makes Canadians think of a large chartered bank.

"Cyli" wrote in message
...
On 31 Mar 2005 09:38:52 -0800, "
wrote:

I've been waiting patiently to read about paddling and touring trips.
Really tired of this other subject that keeps popping up.
Let's hear about water sports...
I'm a canoest, and seakayaker...and want to read and talk about
that...isn't that why we signed up here? If not let me know, and I'll
unsubscribe and move on...

Let's give it a go..eh?


Shall I say, "You first." or "Bub bye now." ?

Instead of whining and threatening to deprive us of your, possibly
otherwise nice, company, why don't you tell us what and where you
paddle and what's good or bad about it?

All I paddle are a canoe (rental the last couple of years since I gave
away my stipper) and a recreational Old Town Otter kayak and (when I
lose 5 more pounds?) an old Perception Dancer that I use like a
recreational kayak.

I do them on lakes and the St. Croix River in MN/WI. Like them all,
Lke the places except that too many other people in canoes like the
'Croix on warm weekends. But the backwaters remove most of the
aluminum hatch from sight and sound.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Nice to know there are others out there with a Dancer that is a little snug.
It takes everything that boat has to keep me afloat. I have removed the
plastic bit under the front combing edge and that gets me into the thing. I
was somewhat worried that I would not come out in a wet exit but when the
time came, it came off like a good pair of pants. I love the looks I get
when I show up with it. I'm 6' 1'' and about 275-285 depending on what I had
for breakfast ; and most people where I go have huge canoes and are shocked
that I am actually going to go out in my "little" boat.

Ken

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:02:16 GMT, "No Spam"
wrote:

(snipped)

Nice to know there are others out there with a Dancer that is a little snug.
It takes everything that boat has to keep me afloat. I have removed the
plastic bit under the front combing edge and that gets me into the thing. I
was somewhat worried that I would not come out in a wet exit but when the
time came, it came off like a good pair of pants. I love the looks I get
when I show up with it. I'm 6' 1'' and about 275-285 depending on what I had
for breakfast ; and most people where I go have huge canoes and are shocked
that I am actually going to go out in my "little" boat.

I'm short and chubby and old enough to be less than agile. Bad for
getting in and out of a Dancer. But they're so* nice to paddle. Even
though I don't do whitewater. I once thought I would (about the time
I bought it) but then I tried it a bit and, while it's fun to go
downriver upside down very fast, I wasn't able to do the roll. Had to
pop the skirt every time and swim the little boat down to where I
could drain it and force my way back in. It makes a nice recreational
boat, especially in backwaters and swamps. One can go over a tree
trunk that any other boat would have to beach and pull around. You
push that nose up, reach down to the sides and do a hand push (can't
do that much more, either. Bummer.) and slide yourself right over.
Places anyone else has to get out to pull over the sand bar, you just
dig the paddle in the sand and scoot over it, if there's any water
flowing across it. One does have to learn how to paddle in a straight
line, but that comes along well.



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:02:16 GMT, "No Spam"

wrote:

(snipped)

Nice to know there are others out there with a Dancer that is a
little snug.
It takes everything that boat has to keep me afloat. I have removed
the
plastic bit under the front combing edge and that gets me into the
thing. I
was somewhat worried that I would not come out in a wet exit but
when the
time came, it came off like a good pair of pants. I love the looks I
get
when I show up with it. I'm 6' 1'' and about 275-285 depending on
what I had
for breakfast ; and most people where I go have huge canoes and are
shocked
that I am actually going to go out in my "little" boat.

I'm short and chubby and old enough to be less than agile. Bad for
getting in and out of a Dancer. But they're so* nice to paddle.
Even
though I don't do whitewater. I once thought I would (about the time
I bought it) but then I tried it a bit and, while it's fun to go
downriver upside down very fast, I wasn't able to do the roll. Had
to
pop the skirt every time and swim the little boat down to where I
could drain it and force my way back in. It makes a nice
recreational
boat, especially in backwaters and swamps. One can go over a tree
trunk that any other boat would have to beach and pull around. You
push that nose up, reach down to the sides and do a hand push (can't
do that much more, either. Bummer.) and slide yourself right over.
Places anyone else has to get out to pull over the sand bar, you just
dig the paddle in the sand and scoot over it, if there's any water
flowing across it. One does have to learn how to paddle in a
straight
line, but that comes along well.



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli, Your the kind of gal I would like to see on the survivor program,
any chance you would volunteer? TnT

On 4 Apr 2005 23:09:30 -0700, "Tinkerntom" wrote:



Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli, Your the kind of gal I would like to see on the survivor program,
any chance you would volunteer? TnT


I'd be voted off more quickly than I heard the first guy on the first
show was. The guy that was the only one that knew how to start a
fire...

What little I've seen of it is full of people who want to be movie or
TV actors. Young pretty people in good shape. I don't fit any of
those qualifications. Oh, yeah, and I can be a tad abrasive if I'm
sure I'm right and no one agrees with me. And it's likely no one
would. Most of them (again from the very little I've seen) have
brains the size of walnuts and have common sense factors in the minus
range.

I did see one of their contests all the way through once (my husband
went downstairs to use the computer, so the channels didn't change).
One where the people were shooting at pumpkins or something like that.
Duh. This is not survivalism at basic. You walk over, grab the
pumpkin, cut it open and take it away to cook it. You don't, if in
real need, make a bow and arrow first thing, you make pit traps or
deadfalls or nets. Then you make bows and arrows. Or atalals (sp?
Spear throwers, whatever they're called).

Anyway, I think you can see now why I'd not enter one, even if I were
in good shape. After three days with what I've seen of those people
I'd possibly use any bow and arrows they gave me to shoot the guide,
the other contestants, or, better yet, the producer, if I didn't
shortcut it all and use the arrow to slit my wrists (remember, it's
down, not across).

But thank you for the compliment.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)