Tink suggests:
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And those who smoke, never quite get around to
building boats, or even going buffaloe hunting, so what do you need a
boat for anyway.
============

OK, Tink, you're the guy who lives in what might have been buffalo
country (I'm not sure), so I'll take your word for it: they needed
BOATS to hunt buffalo?! GRIN

Wow! Cool! I'd love to see the harpoons they used. Of course, it makes
perfect sense as the Nootka people on the west coast of Vancouver
Island were very adept at herding the orcas onto the beaches with their
horses. Marvelous horsemen they were.

Cheers,
Wilf

BCITORGB wrote:
Tink suggests:
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And those who smoke, never quite get around to
building boats, or even going buffaloe hunting, so what do you need a
boat for anyway.
============

OK, Tink, you're the guy who lives in what might have been buffalo
country (I'm not sure), so I'll take your word for it: they needed
BOATS to hunt buffalo?! GRIN

Now I can not say for sure, but from what I understand about smoking
grass, some of the side affects is that you are pretty mellow and don't
have many needs except maybe more smoke. You don't need boats, you
don't need to hunt buffaloe, and you certainly don't need boats to hunt
buffaloe.

Of course maybe that is why the buffaloe died out about the same time
the steam locomotive started crossing the Great Plains. The buffaloe
thought they were indians blowing all that smoke, carrying boats on
their back while hunting buffaloe. Scared the poor critters into near
extinction! Besides all that blasted whistle tooten, no buffaloe could
get a decent night sleep, so they were suffering sleep deprivation,
which only added to their hallucinations brought on by all that smoke.

Wow! Cool! I'd love to see the harpoons they used. Of course, it
makes
perfect sense as the Nootka people on the west coast of Vancouver
Island were very adept at herding the orcas onto the beaches with
their
horses. Marvelous horsemen they were.

Cheers,
Wilf

As for your horsemen, I will google them and see what I find out, but I
am sure it had more to do with the seahorses they were riding. The
Orcas actually did all the work. They saw those seahorses carrying on
like they were herding the orcas, and they thought if seahorses
carrying men can come out in the ocean, then we should be able to crawl
out of the water and take a stroll into town. So they would hit the
beach running... er, should I say swimming, and meet their end. Turns
out the Nootka probably were smoking the grass too, and were exhaling
it out over the water where the orca had to come up and breathe, and
the whole thing was a hallucination as well. The problem for the orca
was they never caught on to the trick of the smoke, since those who
experienced it were immedately removed from the gene pool. TnT

On 26 Mar 2005 12:46:06 -0800, "BCITORGB"
wrote:

Tink suggests:
==============
And those who smoke, never quite get around to
building boats, or even going buffaloe hunting, so what do you need a
boat for anyway.
============

OK, Tink, you're the guy who lives in what might have been buffalo
country (I'm not sure), so I'll take your word for it: they needed
BOATS to hunt buffalo?! GRIN

Wow! Cool! I'd love to see the harpoons they used. Of course, it makes
perfect sense as the Nootka people on the west coast of Vancouver
Island were very adept at herding the orcas onto the beaches with their
horses. Marvelous horsemen they were.

To introduce something factual to this fun, yes, the Indians sometimes
did use boats in the process of their buffalo hunts. There's an old
engraving I've seen with some included text showing how they'd make a
coracle out of buffalo skin and willows and transport the meat and
hides to the villages for processing. As an extra tidbit, it was
indicated that the boat operators were women. I got the impression
that this was a fairly common thing. Maybe hunting near / in water
was easier than on land, with the buffalo getting bogged down and
slowed?

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Cyli says:
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To introduce something factual to this fun, yes, the Indians sometimes
did use boats in the process of their buffalo hunts.
=============

Check-mate!

Until I can find evidence of the coastal First Nations using horses to
corral the orca. GRIN

But then I'm just a hwunitum, so what do I know.

Kla-How-Ya
Wilf

BCITORGB wrote:
Cyli says:
===============
To introduce something factual to this fun, yes, the Indians
sometimes
did use boats in the process of their buffalo hunts.
=============

Check-mate!

Until I can find evidence of the coastal First Nations using horses
to
corral the orca. GRIN

But then I'm just a hwunitum, so what do I know.

Kla-How-Ya
Wilf

Well I risk the rath of the mostly harmless Cyli, to point out that
the women did take the SUV to the market and do all the shopping even
back then.

The point I was trying to make about boats though did not include
coracles. I was speaking of reed boats that you would ply the praries
with, enticing the buffaloe to come for a free meal, then when they
were busy eating, and not looking you would dispatch them for your own
dinner.

Bait and Switch is as old as hunting buffaloe, and building boats. TnT