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John F comments:
============== The obvious solution, of course, it to buy a solo kayak. While the Necky Amaruk is fine affordable tandem, it's just not intended for solo paddling. ================ As I've just purchased the Amaruk, I'm quite sure a solo is not in the budget. Perhaps I'm too obtuse or don't want to get the message "don't do it" if that's what people are saying. Or are they saying it's not ideal? I'm willing to deal with less than ideal conditions in terms of things like paddling harder and moving slower. What I really need, however, is people with expertise to weigh in with input on the extent this becomes a safety issue. For example, by way of comparison (if that's even possible), would I be safer in a 13'7"x24" Necky Zoar solo kayak or the 17'10"x28.5" Amaruk tandem (paddling solo - with about 100 pounds of weight foreward)? As an inexperienced kayaker, I realise my fixation on simply putting weight in the foreward cockpit or hatch may be completely nutty and too simplistic and may be missing other important variables. That's where I'd appreciate the veterans' input. As an aside (don't let my wife see this), I'm not sure my wife would constitute much more than just dead weight (although more than 100 pounds). Supplementary question: on longer, group expeditions, would a tandem kayak be used (solo) to freight provisions? frtzw906 |
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I think you just need to go try it out. With the knowledge that you have a
disadvantage in high wind or strong current. With these in mind I think you will be able to enjoy solo time in your boat. I have seen a very large double used solo to gather firewood and it worked quite well. While you may be limited in the conditions that you may use the boat solo there should be no reason not to go out to a nice protected area and see how it feels. --- This disadvantage could result in not being able to get back to shore. Please explore the boats operation someplace where this is not a problem. i.e. - Lake not Ocean Ken "BCITORGB" wrote in message oups.com... John F comments: ============== The obvious solution, of course, it to buy a solo kayak. While the Necky Amaruk is fine affordable tandem, it's just not intended for solo paddling. ================ As I've just purchased the Amaruk, I'm quite sure a solo is not in the budget. Perhaps I'm too obtuse or don't want to get the message "don't do it" if that's what people are saying. Or are they saying it's not ideal? I'm willing to deal with less than ideal conditions in terms of things like paddling harder and moving slower. What I really need, however, is people with expertise to weigh in with input on the extent this becomes a safety issue. For example, by way of comparison (if that's even possible), would I be safer in a 13'7"x24" Necky Zoar solo kayak or the 17'10"x28.5" Amaruk tandem (paddling solo - with about 100 pounds of weight foreward)? As an inexperienced kayaker, I realise my fixation on simply putting weight in the foreward cockpit or hatch may be completely nutty and too simplistic and may be missing other important variables. That's where I'd appreciate the veterans' input. As an aside (don't let my wife see this), I'm not sure my wife would constitute much more than just dead weight (although more than 100 pounds). Supplementary question: on longer, group expeditions, would a tandem kayak be used (solo) to freight provisions? frtzw906 |
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No spam said:
================= While you may be limited in the conditions that you may use the boat solo there should be no reason not to go out to a nice protected area and see how it feels. ================== Thanks! That might be a good start. I'm within minutes of a bay where I could paddle for almost 2 hours and never have to be more than a few meters from the shore (and where the shore is lined with residential neighborhoods). That seems safe enough. When I've tried it, I'll report back. Cheers, Wilf ================ |
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Back to my original "dead weight" question.
I tried paddling solo with 24 liters of water as dead weight in the forward cockpit. The conditions were ideal for this experiment, and I can report complete success. The rudder on the Amaruk is AWESOME. Further, I did not feel that the bow was riding too high. Trip Report: C:\My Web Sites\pedalpaddleinbc\k050314buntzen.htm Cheers, and thanks for the help Wilf |
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Trip Report:
http://ca.geocities.com/pedalpaddlei...314buntzen.htm Sorry for the earlier reference to my harddrive... Wilf |
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Terrific glad to hear it worked out.
Ken. "BCITORGB" wrote in message ups.com... Back to my original "dead weight" question. I tried paddling solo with 24 liters of water as dead weight in the forward cockpit. The conditions were ideal for this experiment, and I can report complete success. The rudder on the Amaruk is AWESOME. Further, I did not feel that the bow was riding too high. Trip Report: C:\My Web Sites\pedalpaddleinbc\k050314buntzen.htm Cheers, and thanks for the help Wilf |
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![]() "BCITORGB" wrote in message oups.com... John F comments: ============== The obvious solution, of course, it to buy a solo kayak. While the Necky Amaruk is fine affordable tandem, it's just not intended for solo paddling. ================ As I've just purchased the Amaruk, I'm quite sure a solo is not in the budget. Perhaps I'm too obtuse or don't want to get the message "don't do it" if that's what people are saying. Or are they saying it's not ideal? I'm willing to deal with less than ideal conditions in terms of things like paddling harder and moving slower. What I really need, however, is people with expertise to weigh in with input on the extent this becomes a safety issue. For example, by way of comparison (if that's even possible), would I be safer in a 13'7"x24" Necky Zoar solo kayak or the 17'10"x28.5" Amaruk tandem (paddling solo - with about 100 pounds of weight foreward)? As an inexperienced kayaker, I realise my fixation on simply putting weight in the foreward cockpit or hatch may be completely nutty and too simplistic and may be missing other important variables. That's where I'd appreciate the veterans' input... I can only speculate about kayaks, but I've done this many times in a 17 foot aluminum canoe. On occasions when I couldn't conveniently find enough weight (I tended to rely on whatever I could find where I launched) the bow would ride high and could get squirrelly in wind, otherwise it worked beautifully. Obviously, it helps to get the weight as far forward as possible. I'd guess I typically used about 60-75 lbs. or so forward of the front seat. Here's the speculation part: From what little I've seen of them, the seats in two seater kayaks appear to be closer together and nearer the center of the boat than is typical in a canoe. In theory, this means anyone soloing from the back seat would have less affect on trim than in a canoe, and it should be easier to balance. Unfortunately, the other seat is also closer to center which means it would take more weight to counterbalance there. On the other hand, if there is a forward hatch or some other way to get weight up near the bow, it would take considerably less to do the job. I can't think of any reason that dead weight should be a safety issue. I've never paddled one of these boats, so I have no idea whether paddling alone is a safety issue........but I wouldn't hesitate to try it myself. Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang says:
============== In theory, this means anyone soloing from the back seat would have less affect on trim than in a canoe, and it should be easier to balance. Unfortunately, the other seat is also closer to center which means it would take more weight to counterbalance there. On the other hand, if there is a forward hatch or some other way to get weight up near the bow, it would take considerably less to do the job. =============== Wolfgang, that was pretty much my thinking as well, but I thought, given the wealth of experience around this forum, that I'd ask. It would be just like me to have given this a theoretical one-over, only to have missed some fairly obvious practical variables. As a lifetime klutz, I speak from experience. If it can be screwed up, I'll be the one to do it (reality NEVER correlates with my abstractions!). Wilf ============= |
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![]() "BCITORGB" wrote in message ups.com... Wolfgang says: ============== In theory, this means anyone soloing from the back seat would have less affect on trim than in a canoe, and it should be easier to balance. Unfortunately, the other seat is also closer to center which means it would take more weight to counterbalance there. On the other hand, if there is a forward hatch or some other way to get weight up near the bow, it would take considerably less to do the job. =============== Wolfgang, that was pretty much my thinking as well, but I thought, given the wealth of experience around this forum, that I'd ask. It would be just like me to have given this a theoretical one-over, only to have missed some fairly obvious practical variables. As a lifetime klutz, I speak from experience. If it can be screwed up, I'll be the one to do it (reality NEVER correlates with my abstractions!). So, what's the worst that can happen? You die, right? ![]() Wolfgang um.......you won't sue me, will you? ![]() |
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Wolfgang opines:
============= So, what's the worst that can happen? You die, right? ![]() Wolfgang um.......you won't sue me, will you? ![]() ==================== On the second point, my name's neither Tinker nor Weiser. On the first point, in light of the reaction you got on the Florida accident thread, I'll just leaving sleeping dogs lie. My theoretical abstractions never include death, but, with reality, you can never be sure. Wilf |
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