Timo Noko wrote in message ...
I thought you were anti-immigrant, but I didn't get the point about
inferior Finns. Well, for those who are anti-immigrant, they must
realize we got something in common in fixing the problems of the
Thirld World...

20% unemployed (defacto) and they say we "urgently" need more people.
According to CEO of Nokia those (unemployed) are of inferior quality
(inspite of high education) and we need to give tax-breaks those
educated foreigners that are willing to move to Finland.

It sounds to me like Saudi Arabia...

What is good for GM...is bad for the American people, in light for so
many SUVs out there polluting and threatening others on the road.
Perhaps the same for Nokia?

Anyway if you got such unemployment, isn't it time cut down the
workweek?


Scandinavia went from being a poor emigrant place to a rich immigran
place. Sweden studied America in order to learn what to do--and what
not to do--in the 1920's and by the 30's it was already a model.

Please. Sweden did not start mass-immigration until 1960. Wages were
3 times higher than in Finland (I was there -- as a summer-timer
immigrant laborer). Downhill ever since, now Sweden is poorer than
Finland with appaling third-world problems.

Well, the problem in Finland seems to have more to do with
globalization than with immigration. Sweden is another story, which
may prove the failure of socialism with people who don't share the
values (immigrants). I'd chose neither route: neither socialism nor
globalization, but ECONOMIC DEMOCRACY (mostly through competition from
coops), providing more employment with fewer hours and cutting down
welfare. Of course, those policies must be implemented first and
foremost in the countries that feed the immigrants to Scandinavia.

Scandinavia has its own system based on low corruption and high taxes
that may work best for them. At least it can't be called a jungle, and
it's #1 in most world rankings. For one the hordes of homeless, the
crime, the dilapidation you find in America are not found there...

What else is an idiot to believe, that leaders of the world care about
the environment any more than their petty wars?

Petty wars? Well maybe the war of Jenkins ear but I don't think that
happens
anymore.

petty: Marked by narrowness of mind, ideas, or views.


So an opposite point of view or ideology is petty? Boy, you'll fit right in
here :-)

Petty wars occur when the real motives of a war are faked, so to hide
the fact that they remain good old-fashioned plundering and pillaging.

'I typed this message espically on a japanese keyboard because quite
frankly it sickened me the other day whilst in my hotel room i turned
on the T.V (thats not the only revelation) but it sicken me to what i
heard and I can say this until the cows come home The 2nd Gulf War is
nothing compared to vietnam and that is what sickened me i may not be
a racist or politican but i am a patriot and i respect my own and my
allies countries and the fact that a "petty war over oil" can be
compared to the sheer horror of vietnam and i want to close by saying
that it is un4exceptable and that this is the kind of slander that
needs to go from our lives not violent films etc.

I just want to display my point of view.'
Fox

Posted by TheFox on 04/28/04 at 02:12 PM

http://www.oddlotsirregulars.com/ind.../comments/658/

Petty wars occur when the real motives of a war are faked, so to hide
the fact that they remain good old-fashioned plundering and pillaging.

Now you're just applying words to a current situation. Booooooooo. No
attention span.

remainder deleted

Actually that's what I had in mind all along. While politicians turn a
blind eye to the environmental crisis, they engage in petty wars over
oil.

This is a picture of our leaders...

http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders...tten/moai.html

suv`s are obviously an unecesary risk to the current population mainly
because of their gratutiously unecessary use of irreplacable resources -
the current doubling of oil prices is directly attributable to their growth
in the USA and Europe -oil demand is forecast to double in the next 20
years but supply will possibly drop by 25 % this problem would disappear if
the use of road fuel in the USA dropped by 15% -banning SUVs or restricting
them to non heated non AC agricultural types would achieve this overnight
and also reduce pedestian deaths by 8 %. All governments world wide must act
immediatley to suppress the yank tank invasion! -DESMODUS

It makes sense to me. But it won't be the governments of the
world--they are either in complicity or simply intimidated--but the
people of the world that can make the difference.


In the meantime we can talk about the Law of the Jungle...

"When the Law of the Land is the Law of the Jungle"

"One who breaks the law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who
willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the
conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality
expressing the highest respect for law." --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

The Law of the Jungle (that gives name to my homepage) was inspired by
the injustice of the bicycles (little animals) having no space in the
jungle roads. And that's exactly evident in this article: The Law of
the Land is the Law of the Jungle...

The Law of the Land
by Laura J. Sharp

Ripping around the corner at breakneck speeds, Maverick, Unit 07, Bike
Courier, lays on the brakes in front of one of those giant glass oil
company buildings in downtown Calgary. He skids to a halt, bounces off
his bike, and locks it to the racks outside the building. He zips past
several suits in his mad sprint to get into the building and deliver
his trip.

Several of the suits turn and glare at him as he runs. What is it in
their eyes? Is that hate? Or is it jealousy? When Maverick returns,
speeding faster because of inertia. He climbs on to his bike and zips
off down the bike ramp towards the road, only to be stopped at the end
of the ramp by an officer of the law. The law is upheld and physics is
stopped. Maverick receives his ticket.

This is one small event in the daily life of a courier, as they dodge
glares, outrun shouts and profanities, and try to monitor the
co-ordinates of the police officers "just doing their jobs." Never
mind the onslaught of three million tons of steel whizzing past the
bike riders every day. When asked why he got the ticket Maverick
replies:

"...Irate secretary bitches from hell breathing down your neck, all in
the name of greed from management breathing down their neck for their
millions of dollars in your courier bag, which they can't get (there)
any damn quicker than on a bicycle in the inner city core. And they're
more than happy to cut you off on the way to the office to check on
those millions you have in your bag. See, it all comes down to a
greedy suit pig."

The Bike Couriers are a community of people providing a necessary and
essential service to the same community of people who would love to
see them squished against the side of a bus, or taken down by a
S.W.A.T. team for trying to deliver their envelopes. It is this
community that the couriers serve, who file complaints to city hall
demanding by-laws for their own protection against "these hoodlums who
defile the streets and threaten the safety of the pedestrians," as one
downtown suit put it. Or as Stephanie Keer from the Calgary Sun, circa
1990, put it "(the Bike Couriers are) evil daredevils, and idiots."

(snip)

So yes, bike riders are a threat to the common security of the
populace that is released upon the streets every weekday at noon. But
the common security is merely a sense, a false prophet that dictates
the ruin of not only those that enforce the silly laws, but those that
rely upon the silly laws for a sense of protection from the wild world
of the free spirit.

The free spirit that owns the world of couriers. The free spirit that
owns the wind and those that choose to ride in it. The free spirit
that flies at the back of Maverick, Unit 07, as he tears up to the
next office tower made of glass.

It is this freedom that prevents the Bike Courier from ever being
caught. Caught within a self-defeating dome of glass and oil, and
trapped from the outside world where reality still reigns.

more...

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/cmwd/ls.html

http://committed.to/justiceforpeace