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HELLO.....hello...........hhheeellllooo
quite the echo in here |
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"43V" wrote in message oups.com... HELLO.....hello...........hhheeellllooo quite the echo in here Most of the racers quit posting here after the big '****ing contest' of a few summers ago. I was hoping they would have started coming back by now. Larry My turbine powered boat project; http://www.weldingfaq.com/turbine2.asp |
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cool site how is the project coming along?who was the Jeff in the one
spat about saving the sport? have you seen Ron Hill and Ted March's site? http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forum...2&forumids=123 i race those lil A stocks. I just joined apba last year |
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"43V" wrote in message oups.com... cool site how is the project coming along? I'm cleaning up my GE SDG today (while waiting for the City to issue my building permit). As soon as I get paperwork, I'll be focusing on getting my 26' wide by 44' long by 16' high boat storage building put up. Then I'll get that monster 'turbine powered'. have you seen Ron Hill and Ted March's site? http://www.boatracingfacts.com Yes. Ron's site is full of great pics and good info. i race those lil A stocks. Those are a blast. I used to race 20 mod hydro and two-man runabout- what a gas! |
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as a' new' racer. last year was my first full year of racing. being
able to learn so much about the history of the sport (at BRF) it has been wonderfull . on top of that people are a little 'looser' with go faster tips there than anywhere else i have found on the net. Those are a blast. I used to race 20 mod hydro and two-man runabout- what a gas! but nothing can compare i am sure, to the awsome power of a turbine powered boat. are they kinda like a turbine bike ? where it starts out kinda soft then just keeps pushing harder and harder?do those gear reducers have a clutch? if so are they cone? or are you under power as soon as you start up? you mentioned reworking the ex. so it pointed up . how much downward force does that apply to the boat it has to be some doesnt it? or is the majority of the energy applied to the vanes of the turbine as it proggress thu the engine? if so do they have alot more vanes than say a comparable hp thrusting engine (poor choice of terminology i am sure). doesnt a turbine helocopter got some of its foward thrust fom the output of the ex? |
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Hi Kevin,
I'll try to answer your questions. Many of these topics are covered at http://www.weldingfaq.com/turbine1.asp you mentioned reworking the exhaust so it pointed up. how much downward force does that apply to the boat it has to be some doesn't it? The T58 passes much more air than it uses for combustion- it's just hot air that has already run across the power turbine blades (not useful for thrust), so the force is minimal. where it starts out kinda soft then just keeps pushing harder and harder? A turbine power curve is a lot like the wankel- just keeps going and going till you reach 100% (which should be right around 120mph)! do those gear reducers have a clutch? No. Just 3.25:1 reduction is the Speed Decreaser Gear (SDG). But I plan to use a 'disk brake' to stop the power turbine from turning. Then I can shift Fwd-N-Rev with an SCS Crashbox. More details are posted on my web site. doesnt a turbine helocopter got some of its foward thrust fom the output of the ex? Very minimal. do they have alot more vanes than say a comparable hp thrusting engine The main difference between this T58 (turboshaft) and a typical turbojet (thrust engine as you say) is the connected power turbine. This single set of blades turns an output shaft at 1400 HP. So if I remove the power turbine I can use the thrust just like any other jet engine. There's a little more to it, but that's the basic idea. I'm currently cleaning up my GE SDG and will post more photos as I go. Thanks "43V" wrote in message oups.com... as a' new' racer. last year was my first full year of racing. being able to learn so much about the history of the sport (at BRF) it has been wonderfull . on top of that people are a little 'looser' with go faster tips there than anywhere else i have found on the net. Those are a blast. I used to race 20 mod hydro and two-man runabout- what a gas! but nothing can compare i am sure, to the awsome power of a turbine powered boat. are they kinda like a turbine bike ? where it starts out kinda soft then just keeps pushing harder and harder?do those gear reducers have a clutch? if so are they cone? or are you under power as soon as you start up? you mentioned reworking the ex. so it pointed up . how much downward force does that apply to the boat it has to be some doesnt it? or is the majority of the energy applied to the vanes of the turbine as it proggress thu the engine? if so do they have alot more vanes than say a comparable hp thrusting engine (poor choice of terminology i am sure). doesnt a turbine helocopter got some of its foward thrust fom the output of the ex? |
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thanks for answering my questions.
sorry that was rude of me to ask you what you had allready gone to the time and trouble to put on your site. I had gotten wrapped up in the welding and ran out of time while looking at the boat project. then asked you here instead of going back. BTW I went into the welding thinking lets see what this guy knows. lol i left it sure that you know ALOT more than I on that subject you put together a very nice site. I feel you did a wonderfull job putting the physics in to lay terms that anyone can understand well done |
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The two prime participants were too rude and vulgar for most of us. When
they gloated over their accomplishments of "trashing" the group it was pretty apparent to most of us that these were not the people we really needed to be associated with. If they ran as fast on the water as they did their mouths, they would be world record holders! Most of doubted if they really raced boats or just blew smoke, they sure were not like any of the fine boat racers I ran with for many years. It was like they were needing to enroll in a substance abuse program. Don Dando "bBob" wrote in message news:0MKUf.2444$ah3.1461@trnddc06... "43V" wrote in message oups.com... HELLO.....hello...........hhheeellllooo quite the echo in here Most of the racers quit posting here after the big '****ing contest' of a few summers ago. I was hoping they would have started coming back by now. Larry My turbine powered boat project; http://www.weldingfaq.com/turbine2.asp |
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"Don Dando" wrote in message ... The two prime participants were too rude and vulgar for most of us. When they gloated over their accomplishments of "trashing" the group it was pretty apparent to most of us that these were not the people we really needed to be associated with. If they ran as fast on the water as they did their mouths, they would be world record holders! Most of doubted if they really raced boats or just blew smoke, they sure were not like any of the fine boat racers I ran with for many years. It was like they were needing to enroll in a substance abuse program. Don Dando I was hoping they would have started coming back by now. And when they come back, they should be 'civil' and not bringing up the 'old grudges'. Let's move on and take BOAT RACING! |
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