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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:55:53 -0500, Boater wrote:


Convince me that "moderates" make up the majority of the Republican
Party.

Before this last election, there were quite a few moderate Republicans.
Unfortunately, many of them lost. The end result is the Republican Party
is now further to the right. You will probably disagree with me on this,
but I'm hoping for a strong moderate Republican rebirth. A two party
system needs two strong parties. It helps keep corruption at bay, and
the bashing about of competing ideas is an overall plus.

The religious fundies, however, can pound sand.

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:55:53 -0500, Boater wrote:


Convince me that "moderates" make up the majority of the Republican
Party.

Before this last election, there were quite a few moderate Republicans.
Unfortunately, many of them lost. The end result is the Republican Party
is now further to the right. You will probably disagree with me on this,
but I'm hoping for a strong moderate Republican rebirth. A two party
system needs two strong parties. It helps keep corruption at bay, and
the bashing about of competing ideas is an overall plus.

The religious fundies, however, can pound sand.


I was about to respond to Harry, but you said it better.
This election was not typical. Too many extreme factors ... disgust with
Bush, the War and then the economic meltdown starting September 15th. Add
to them the Palin factor and it was over.

I agree that many moderate Republicans voted for Obama this time around. I
also believe that once the GOP gets reorganized, it will make a strong
comeback in future elections.

Eisboch

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On Nov 14, 6:12*am, Boater wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
Not much about boats, but given the critical nature of global events, I
thought today's spirited discussions were interesting.

I know I learned a few things and even had a couple of chuckles.

Good luck to everybody. *We're gonna need it.

I even wish Obama well and hope he is ready for the challenges ahead of
him. We could have done worse.

We could have had Hillary.

Eisboch
I watched Palin's speech and suddenly aborted press conference today..
She
is going to be the gift that keeps on giving.
You seem to hate women so much you should become a Muslim.
Hate? That's a Republican characteristic. I think she's terrific, and just
the woman I want to see capture the 2012 GOP nomination.

Well give your fixation on Palin a break until 2012. *Or are you republican
wieners and leaches already worried?

*snerk

Tell you what, Canuck...ESAD.- Hide quoted text -

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wow, what refinement and culture......

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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:55:53 -0500, Boater wrote:


Convince me that "moderates" make up the majority of the Republican
Party.
Before this last election, there were quite a few moderate Republicans.
Unfortunately, many of them lost. The end result is the Republican Party
is now further to the right. You will probably disagree with me on this,
but I'm hoping for a strong moderate Republican rebirth. A two party
system needs two strong parties. It helps keep corruption at bay, and
the bashing about of competing ideas is an overall plus.

The religious fundies, however, can pound sand.


I was about to respond to Harry, but you said it better.
This election was not typical. Too many extreme factors ... disgust with
Bush, the War and then the economic meltdown starting September 15th. Add
to them the Palin factor and it was over.

I agree that many moderate Republicans voted for Obama this time around. I
also believe that once the GOP gets reorganized, it will make a strong
comeback in future elections.

Eisboch




Reorganized as what, and by whom?

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:17:53 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I agree that many moderate Republicans voted for Obama this time around.
I also believe that once the GOP gets reorganized, it will make a
strong comeback in future elections.

Honestly, it depends on how the Republican Party responds. If it moves
to the right, as some suggest it should, it will become a regional party
until it sees the light. This country is governed from the center. It's
the nature of a two party system.

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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Hate? That's a Republican characteristic. I think she's terrific, and just
the woman I want to see capture the 2012 GOP nomination.


You see Harry, a statement like that tells all.

We have no idea who will be running in 2012. We have no proof of how well
or badly Obama will govern. We have no idea how well or badly a Democrat
controlled Congress is going to perform. We have no idea which party or
person will be best for the situation and conditions in 2012.

With all these unknows, and 4 years away, you are already lined up to vote
Democratic.
Takes a lot of wind out of your sails with regard to your advocacy of a
particular candidate.

Eisboch



It makes life a lot easier for him. Vote strictly democratic. No
thinking, judgment or common sense required.

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Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Hate? That's a Republican characteristic. I think she's terrific, and
just the woman I want to see capture the 2012 GOP nomination.


You see Harry, a statement like that tells all.

We have no idea who will be running in 2012. We have no proof of how
well or badly Obama will govern. We have no idea how well or badly a
Democrat controlled Congress is going to perform. We have no idea
which party or person will be best for the situation and conditions in
2012.

With all these unknows, and 4 years away, you are already lined up to
vote Democratic.
Takes a lot of wind out of your sails with regard to your advocacy of
a particular candidate.

Eisboch


It makes life a lot easier for him. Vote strictly democratic. No
thinking, judgment or common sense required.


Indeed, in the last 12 years, the choices the GOP offered up included
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and John
McCain and Sarah Palin.

No thinking or judgment was required to turn down those choices.
Instinct and my gut told me they were wrong for America. I was spot on
with turning down Bush and Cheney. America agreed with me on turning
down McCain and Palin.

Silly me...I didn't vote for the idiot Bush and the thug Cheney, and I
didn't vote for No Judgment McCain or JesusFreak Palin.

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Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Convince me that "moderates" make up the majority of the Republican
Party.

Why?

You are already deeply rooted in your religion.

Eisboch



The real answer, of course, is that there is no proof that "moderates"
make up the majority of the GOP. In fact, if you look through the state
by state returns from the last election, you'll see the pattern emerge
of who most Republican voters are...mainly older, whiter, evangelicals.
Hardly moderates.

More racist bigoted remarks from krause. That's a doozie. I'll have to
save this comment for later.

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Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Convince me that "moderates" make up the majority of the Republican
Party.

Why?

You are already deeply rooted in your religion.

Eisboch



The real answer, of course, is that there is no proof that "moderates"
make up the majority of the GOP. In fact, if you look through the
state by state returns from the last election, you'll see the pattern
emerge of who most Republican voters are...mainly older, whiter,
evangelicals. Hardly moderates.

More racist bigoted remarks from krause. That's a doozie. I'll have to
save this comment for later.


D'oh...there have been several national surveys of those who voted last
week, and you know what? My description is spot-on. Nothing racist in my
remark. Nothing bigoted, either. Just reality.

Hey...aren't you an older, whiter, evangelical? Didn't you vote for
McCain-Palin?

Case closed.