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Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 12, 4:26*pm, Boater wrote:
Don White wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... There are some pretty serious allegations on this web site. http://www.unionfacts.com/ Cat got your tongue Harry? Where I worked...no one was forced to sign a card, although under the terms of employment they paid union dues and enjoyed any advantages the full members enjoyed. ( except they couldn't run for office in the local) I doubt FloridaJim or his buddy JustWait could qualify as an apprentice in any of the skilled unions. I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Harry, I didn't know you were a welding expert. Another thing about your above lie, you can't convince me that the staircase was site- built. It was pre-fabricated, and sent onsite. So, the union crew only erected the thing. Quite possibly the manufacturer isn't a union shop. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 12, 4:54*pm, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... There are some pretty serious allegations on this web site. http://www.unionfacts.com/ Cat got your tongue Harry? Where I worked...no one was forced to sign a card, although under the terms of employment they paid union dues and enjoyed any advantages the full members enjoyed. ( except they couldn't run for office in the local) I doubt FloridaJim or his buddy JustWait could qualify as an apprentice in any of the skilled unions. I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Wait a hold-it Harry, Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? Eisboch The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase was...astonishing. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What a lie! Show us some pictures!!!! |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 12, 5:08*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Wait a hold-it Harry, Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? Eisboch The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase was...astonishing. :) "Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry"? I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a line. To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on site. But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished? Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way. What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the proper equipment. The glass is something else. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Boy oh, boy that Harry can spin a tale, huh? Here's just a clue. Tempered glass has to be....tempered. They sure as hell didn't do that onsite, as well as your above questions about the SS finish! |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 12, 6:41*pm, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Wait a hold-it Harry, Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? Eisboch The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase was...astonishing. :) "Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry"? I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a line. To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on site. But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished? Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way. What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the proper equipment. The glass is something else. Eisboch Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, then, what type of weld? |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 12, 9:21*pm, BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? Eisboch BTW Harry, I am in no way inferring that union welders/fabricators are inferior to non-union. I am simply stating that they are not necessessary superior to non-union, which is the case you keep trying to present. I have quite a bit of experience with requirements for high quality welding. The stainless steel or aluminum vacuum systems we built had some of the most vigorous welding requirements in the trade. They had to be leak tight to atoms of helium, drawn through voids or inclusions or diffused through the welds by vacuum. *Helium is number 2 on the periodic chart, meaning the atoms are very, very small. Anyway, once in a while we would have a contract that required a "U" stamp or in a couple of rare cases, a "N" stamp, meaning our welders were certified for nuclear work. * We didn't have any "N" stamp certified welders. *One project required it for a subsection (not the entire structure), so we subcontracted to a "N" certified union welder in another shop. The finished piece was received and, as required by the contract, sent out for x-ray. * It flunked. So, we subcontracted another one. *Same thing. *It flunked. *The union shop attempted to repair it without success ... flunked x-ray again. Meanwhile, there are excuses flying around like mosquitoes in July. *Time was ticking and it was costing money. We then had one of our very good, non-union welders go to the union shop to witness the welding process on the forth attempt to build the subsystem.. One thing led to another (old history, not worth bringing back up) *but it turns out that our welder was quite a bit bigger than the shop's union welder. *Our guy grabbed the torch and spent three days welding up the assembly. Shipped it out for x-ray.... passed with no problems. You need to talk to my wife about welding and porosity of materials. She eats, sleeps and dreams that stuff.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Me too! |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 13, 8:29*am, wrote:
On Nov 12, 6:41*pm, Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Wait a hold-it Harry, Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? Eisboch The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase was...astonishing. :) "Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry"? I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a line. To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on site. But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished? Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way. What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the proper equipment. The glass is something else. Eisboch Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, then, what type of weld?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's kind of funny to hear Harry bitching about each and every blue collar worker here in the group, then turn around and tell us he supports unions.. I think he supports anybody that pays union dues and sweats so he can live well... |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
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Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 13, 8:36*am, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Nov 13, 8:29 am, wrote: On Nov 12, 6:41 pm, Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Wait a hold-it Harry, Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? Eisboch The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase was...astonishing. :) "Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry"? I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a line. To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on site. But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished? Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way. What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the proper equipment. The glass is something else. Eisboch Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, then, what type of weld?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's kind of funny to hear Harry bitching about each and every blue collar worker here in the group, then turn around and tell us he supports unions.. I think he supports anybody that pays union dues and sweats so he can live well... Surely you are not insulting the ranks of blue collar workers by claiming to be one of them. You don't work.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, bull****, I work fulltime.... |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
"Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 13, 1:52*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:08:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Wait a hold-it Harry, Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on site? * I don't believe it. Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer? The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase was...astonishing. :) "Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace industry"? I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a line. To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on site. But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished? Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way. What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the proper equipment. The glass is something else. Here's the deal guys. *Harry is in the union marketing business. *He's essentially a marketer for union labor. That's what he does for a living. *Kind of like Amway sales in a way.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - HEY.......quit dissing Amway sales people. They will surely take offense at you lumping them in with Harry. At least they know something about their product! |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in India. Harry Krause you are a racist. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. How do you like being tagged with a label? If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative. Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the products are made. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in India. Harry Krause you are a racist. As usual, you are full of schitt. Oh...Arab and Muslim are not races. So, you are stupid, too. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. How do you like being tagged with a label? If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative. Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the products are made. The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half the problems are related to the VOIP phone connections. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. How do you like being tagged with a label? If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative. Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the products are made. The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half the problems are related to the VOIP phone connections. That is your prerogative. That'll certainly improve your chances of talking with a racist. Why? Will you or John Herring be answering the phone? |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. How do you like being tagged with a label? If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative. Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the products are made. The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half the problems are related to the VOIP phone connections. That is your prerogative. That'll certainly improve your chances of talking with a racist. Why? Will you or John Herring be answering the phone? yawn |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 13, 8:46*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Besides that, with his vulgar name calling, and insults, if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in India. Harry Krause you are a racist. As usual, you are full of schitt. Oh...Arab and Muslim are not races. I'll have to remember that the next time you call someone a racist. Are we going to go with the three standard races, Caucasiods, Negroids and Mongoloids? So, you are stupid, too. Ok. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in India. Harry Krause you are a racist. As usual, you are full of schitt. Oh...Arab and Muslim are not races. I'll have to remember that the next time you call someone a racist. Are we going to go with the three standard races, Caucasiods, Negroids and Mongoloids? So, you are stupid, too. Ok. A Muslim is a member of a particular religion Islam. It is the same sort of descriptor as Jewish, Catholic and Protestant. Muslim does not denote race. Arabs are part of an ethnic group. There are other definitions, too, but Arab does not denote race. You can go with whatever racial descriptors please you. I don't pay attention to skin color. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
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Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
wrote in message ... snip.. if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mmmmm .................how do you know his ass is "smelly"? |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Nov 13, 12:30*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... snip.. if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-------- mmmmm .................how do you know his ass is "smelly"? You told me. And you'd be the authority because your nose is always stuffed up it. Also, anybody that grotesquely overweight and out of shape must be sweaty and nasty. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:25:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 12, 4:26*pm, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... There are some pretty serious allegations on this web site. http://www.unionfacts.com/ Cat got your tongue Harry? Where I worked...no one was forced to sign a card, although under the terms of employment they paid union dues and enjoyed any advantages the full members enjoyed. ( except they couldn't run for office in the local) I doubt FloridaJim or his buddy JustWait could qualify as an apprentice in any of the skilled unions. I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Harry, I didn't know you were a welding expert. Another thing about your above lie, you can't convince me that the staircase was site- built. It was pre-fabricated, and sent onsite. So, the union crew only erected the thing. Quite possibly the manufacturer isn't a union shop. The manufacturer has the assembly alignment fixtures. They used to call them jigs, but someone decided that was politically incorrect. Whichever, that means they can do it faster, cheaper, and better. Casady |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:25:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 12, 4:26 pm, Boater wrote: Don White wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... There are some pretty serious allegations on this web site. http://www.unionfacts.com/ Cat got your tongue Harry? Where I worked...no one was forced to sign a card, although under the terms of employment they paid union dues and enjoyed any advantages the full members enjoyed. ( except they couldn't run for office in the local) I doubt FloridaJim or his buddy JustWait could qualify as an apprentice in any of the skilled unions. I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor. Harry, I didn't know you were a welding expert. Another thing about your above lie, you can't convince me that the staircase was site- built. It was pre-fabricated, and sent onsite. So, the union crew only erected the thing. Quite possibly the manufacturer isn't a union shop. The manufacturer has the assembly alignment fixtures. They used to call them jigs, but someone decided that was politically incorrect. Whichever, that means they can do it faster, cheaper, and better. Casady Even *mother board* and *daughter board* were taboo at AT&T years ago. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Don White wrote:
wrote in message ... snip.. if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mmmmm .................how do you know his ass is "smelly"? Why does that interest you? Go get your boy a beer. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
DK wrote:
Don White wrote: wrote in message ... snip.. if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mmmmm .................how do you know his ass is "smelly"? Why does that interest you? Go get your boy a beer. He was just commenting on the inanity of loogy... BTW, have you seen the special photo of JustWait+Loogy? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/6ff0e766.jpg |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
"Boater" wrote in message ... DK wrote: Don White wrote: wrote in message ... snip.. if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mmmmm .................how do you know his ass is "smelly"? Why does that interest you? Go get your boy a beer. He was just commenting on the inanity of loogy... BTW, have you seen the special photo of JustWait+Loogy? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/6ff0e766.jpg That makes them twice as good looking as Ditzy Dan |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in India. Harry Krause you are a racist. As usual, you are full of schitt. Oh...Arab and Muslim are not races. I'll have to remember that the next time you call someone a racist. Are we going to go with the three standard races, Caucasiods, Negroids and Mongoloids? So, you are stupid, too. Ok. A Muslim is a member of a particular religion Islam. It is the same sort of descriptor as Jewish, Catholic and Protestant. Muslim does not denote race. Arabs are part of an ethnic group. There are other definitions, too, but Arab does not denote race. You can go with whatever racial descriptors please you. I don't pay attention to skin color. You pay attention to ethnic groups more than you are willing to admit. You classify everyone you talk to, do business with and or interact with on any level. You are the epitome of a bigot, racist and class and religious warrior. You don't see people. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... wrote: They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine). What a man..... Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is none at all. Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about. Eisboch Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not talk to customer support people in India. Racist! Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy command of English. It has nothing to do with race. You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in India. Harry Krause you are a racist. As usual, you are full of schitt. Oh...Arab and Muslim are not races. I'll have to remember that the next time you call someone a racist. Are we going to go with the three standard races, Caucasiods, Negroids and Mongoloids? So, you are stupid, too. Ok. A Muslim is a member of a particular religion Islam. It is the same sort of descriptor as Jewish, Catholic and Protestant. Muslim does not denote race. Arabs are part of an ethnic group. There are other definitions, too, but Arab does not denote race. You can go with whatever racial descriptors please you. I don't pay attention to skin color. You pay attention to ethnic groups more than you are willing to admit. You classify everyone you talk to, do business with and or interact with on any level. You are the epitome of a bigot, racist and class and religious warrior. You don't see people. I do try to limit my contact with assholes. I don't think you or your mentally deteriorating buddy, Herring, will be part of my golf foursome. |
Why won't Harry shout out about the unions?
Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... DK wrote: Don White wrote: wrote in message ... snip.. if he ever really was on a construction job site, he'd get his fat smelly ass beat in a minute! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mmmmm .................how do you know his ass is "smelly"? Why does that interest you? Go get your boy a beer. He was just commenting on the inanity of loogy... BTW, have you seen the special photo of JustWait+Loogy? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0/6ff0e766.jpg That makes them twice as good looking as Ditzy Dan Dummy, you skipped the part about - "how do you know his ass is smelly?" Do you have firsthand knowledge of his ass? As an adult, maybe you could respond without your master playing defense for you. |
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