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[email protected] November 6th 08 08:58 PM

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The people making the money here don't like the new Pres.. Stock
market down 500 and yesterday had the biggest drop after an election
in history... "Damn that Ronald Regan" ;)

The Russians are already poking at the new weak President, and Iran is
extatic.. says a lot :(

Wait till you all see how Harry and the other crims here will spin
this one...

[email protected] November 7th 08 01:12 PM

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On Nov 6, 3:58*pm, wrote:
The people making the money here don't like the new Pres.. Stock
market down 500 and yesterday had the biggest drop after an election
in history... "Damn that Ronald Regan" ;)

The Russians are already poking at the new weak President, and Iran is
extatic.. says a lot :(

Wait till you all see how Harry and the other crims here will spin
this one...


crickets Guess it's only the slander and lies they are interested
in. But the fraudlection is over, time to start blaming the republican
minority some more... Pfffttt, funny how even one of the most
"liberal" states [Cal] voted to overturn the controversial gay
marriage law against the elitists illegal proclamations and wishes.
Makes you wonder how it would have gone if ACORN was involved there..
but it's a solid blue state so they probably need a photo id there to
vote and get real results...

jamesgangnc November 7th 08 01:36 PM

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It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.

wrote in message
...
The people making the money here don't like the new Pres.. Stock
market down 500 and yesterday had the biggest drop after an election
in history... "Damn that Ronald Regan" ;)

The Russians are already poking at the new weak President, and Iran is
extatic.. says a lot :(

Wait till you all see how Harry and the other crims here will spin
this one...




Eisboch November 7th 08 01:42 PM

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"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...

It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.


Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.

Eisboch



Jim November 7th 08 01:55 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...

It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.


Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.

Eisboch


Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.

D.Duck November 7th 08 02:07 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...

It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.


Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.

Eisboch

Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.


Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be *someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.



[email protected] November 7th 08 02:22 PM

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On Nov 7, 8:36*am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
It's over. *You lost big time. *Get over it.

wrote in message

...



The people making the money here don't like the new Pres.. Stock
market down 500 and yesterday had the biggest drop after an election
in history... "Damn that Ronald Regan" ;)


The Russians are already poking at the new weak President, and Iran is
extatic.. says a lot :(


Wait till you all see how Harry and the other crims here will spin
this one...- Hide quoted text -


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Pfffttt. I could say the same thing to you.. Hey, you won, now stop
the name calling and blame game and get something done...

[email protected] November 7th 08 02:36 PM

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On Nov 7, 9:07*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
news:78OdnTldEejy2YnUnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d@earthlink. com...


It's over. *You lost big time. *Get over it.


Heh. * I had to laugh. * I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.


Eisboch

Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.


Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be *someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.


The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.

The only thing for certain is Harry, James, Salty, et al will probably
continue to spin, dance, attack and do what they can to drive any
oppositition away from the conversation. This is not a party of
tolerance or compromise, they have proven to be a party of hate and
censorship...They can't help but sit back and throw stones... So buck
up and keep working, someone will have to pay for their folly. I'm
still waiting for Obama to say something about health care ;)

[email protected] November 7th 08 02:54 PM

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On Nov 6, 3:58*pm, wrote:
The people making the money here don't like the new Pres.. Stock
market down 500 and yesterday had the biggest drop after an election
in history... "Damn that Ronald Regan" ;)

The Russians are already poking at the new weak President, and Iran is
extatic.. says a lot :(

Wait till you all see how Harry and the other crims here will spin
this one...


Who ****ing cares......

Wayne.B November 7th 08 03:06 PM

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On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:55:53 -0500, Jim wrote:

Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.


With any luck we'll be hearing less of him as he scrambles around
trying to get back on the public payroll in some way. Perhaps he'll
be able to upgrade his transom height at our expense.


[email protected] November 7th 08 03:29 PM

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On Nov 7, 8:55*am, Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
om...


It's over. *You lost big time. *Get over it.


Heh. * I had to laugh. * I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.


Eisboch


Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.


Just where DO fat smelly nasty old creepy nail chewing vulgar under-
the-bridge-trolls go?

[email protected] November 7th 08 03:33 PM

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On Nov 7, 10:29*am, wrote:
On Nov 7, 8:55*am, Jim wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
om...


It's over. *You lost big time. *Get over it.


Heh. * I had to laugh. * I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.


Eisboch


Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.


Just where DO fat smelly nasty old creepy nail chewing vulgar under-
the-bridge-trolls go?


He will still be here. It's not really about the politics, it's about
the attention and the little perceived victories. Besides, there will
be crims to cover for and excuses to make... ;) He will stay busy, you
can bet on that...

Don White November 7th 08 04:00 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...

It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.


Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.

Eisboch

Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.



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Calif Bill November 7th 08 06:17 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Nov 6, 3:58 pm, wrote:
The people making the money here don't like the new Pres.. Stock
market down 500 and yesterday had the biggest drop after an election
in history... "Damn that Ronald Regan" ;)

The Russians are already poking at the new weak President, and Iran is
extatic.. says a lot :(

Wait till you all see how Harry and the other crims here will spin
this one...


crickets Guess it's only the slander and lies they are interested
in. But the fraudlection is over, time to start blaming the republican
minority some more... Pfffttt, funny how even one of the most
"liberal" states [Cal] voted to overturn the controversial gay
marriage law against the elitists illegal proclamations and wishes.
Makes you wonder how it would have gone if ACORN was involved there..
but it's a solid blue state so they probably need a photo id there to
vote and get real results...

Actually it is a geographically red state. And most of the people support
gay "marriage". Just call it something else and it would pass
overwhelmingly. 85% of the people support gay "unions" and equal rights to
married couples.



Wayne.B November 7th 08 06:23 PM

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:29:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Just where DO fat smelly nasty old creepy nail chewing vulgar under-
the-bridge-trolls go?


They work as political hacks when their party is in power. The
recruiting season is going full speed ahead right now and all wanna be
hacks are jockeying for position, updating the rolodex and polishing
their resumes. We'll be hearing stories about a new boat soon.


[email protected] November 7th 08 06:46 PM

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On Nov 7, 1:17*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
*And most of the people support
gay "marriage". *Just call it something else and it would pass
overwhelmingly. *85% of the people support gay "unions" and equal rights to
married couples.


And I would support that, I should have been more clear.. As an chosen
child, I also support gay adoption. Guess I will have to give up my
"winger" wings..;)


JohnH[_3_] November 7th 08 07:07 PM

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:42:36 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
om...

It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.


Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.

Eisboch


You mean he's now over it? Damn if I could tell. Seems like the same old
hate-filled, name-calling, foul-mouthed soul he's always been.

Of course, none of his **** applies to you! :)
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

[email protected] November 7th 08 08:17 PM

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On Nov 7, 1:23*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:29:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Just where DO fat smelly nasty old creepy nail chewing vulgar under-
the-bridge-trolls go?


They work as political hacks when their party is in power. *The
recruiting season is going full speed ahead right now and all wanna be
hacks are jockeying for position, updating the rolodex and polishing
their resumes. *We'll be hearing stories about a new boat soon.


And it will all be lies. Harry doesn't work, his wife does.

Vic Smith November 7th 08 09:56 PM

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:36:19 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans)


Last "moderate Republican" I remember was Dick Nixon.
Since then they've been as whacky as the Dems.
You might be too young to remember Everett Dirksen's voice.
Cool.
Hey, check this out. Spiro Agnew rapping.
Found it looking for an example of Dirksen.
Very nicely done vid about the "silent majority."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVW71TXe4QM

Though it's knocking the "silent majority," I pretty much maintain my
membership until voting time. Voted for Nixon twice.
On election day we all get to shout.
God Bless America.
BTW, see if you spot the boats in the vid.
Though it's meant to be a propaganda spoof, the underlying chant of
"shut up and work" unwittingly gets at the heart of what ails this
country.

--Vic

Eisboch November 7th 08 10:49 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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You might be too young to remember Everett Dirksen's voice.
Cool.
Hey, check this out. Spiro Agnew rapping.
Found it looking for an example of Dirksen.



Here's a link to a c-span site that has some old interviews with the likes
of Everett Dirksen, Hubert Humphrey, Barry Goldwater, etc.

It took a minute or so for the page to begin loading, but then did so
quickly. There's a couple of 45 minute interviews with Dirksen. Fun to
listen to that distinctive voice and personality behind it again.

http://www.c-span.org/apa/cong_lead....t_events,lcng;

or: http://tinyurl.com/6lz5f2

Eisboch





D.Duck November 7th 08 10:56 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...


You might be too young to remember Everett Dirksen's voice.
Cool.
Hey, check this out. Spiro Agnew rapping.
Found it looking for an example of Dirksen.



Here's a link to a c-span site that has some old interviews with the likes
of Everett Dirksen, Hubert Humphrey, Barry Goldwater, etc.

It took a minute or so for the page to begin loading, but then did so
quickly. There's a couple of 45 minute interviews with Dirksen. Fun to
listen to that distinctive voice and personality behind it again.

http://www.c-span.org/apa/cong_lead....t_events,lcng;

or: http://tinyurl.com/6lz5f2

Eisboch



I lived in Illinois while Dirksen was senator. I always remember his famous
line, "a billion here, a billion there and pretty soon we're talking real
money". Of course back in his day a billion bought a lot more than today.



HK November 8th 08 02:45 AM

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wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.

Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be *someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.


The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.



You don't pay federal income taxes.

BAR[_3_] November 8th 08 03:11 AM

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he died
and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.
Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be
*someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along the
way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.


The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.



You don't pay federal income taxes.


The problem is I haven't been paying Social Security taxes for the last
1/3 of the year. But, once The Obama gets sworn in I'll be paying them
for the full year.

Do you know how many jobs are going to be lost because of that increase
in taxes? If you think 6.5% unemployment is high you haven't seen
anything yet.

HK November 8th 08 03:30 AM

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he
died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.
Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be
*someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along the
way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.

The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.



You don't pay federal income taxes.


The problem is I haven't been paying Social Security taxes for the last
1/3 of the year. But, once The Obama gets sworn in I'll be paying them
for the full year.

Do you know how many jobs are going to be lost because of that increase
in taxes? If you think 6.5% unemployment is high you haven't seen
anything yet.



Slightly higher taxes on the wealthy aren't going to raise the
unemployment rate.

I was in a new condo yesterday, still under construction, on which the
owner spent $10 million. He and his buddies aren't going to miss a few
tens of thousands of dollars a year for fairer taxes.


Jim November 8th 08 11:56 AM

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he
died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.
Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be
*someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along
the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.

The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.


You don't pay federal income taxes.


The problem is I haven't been paying Social Security taxes for the
last 1/3 of the year. But, once The Obama gets sworn in I'll be paying
them for the full year.

Do you know how many jobs are going to be lost because of that
increase in taxes? If you think 6.5% unemployment is high you haven't
seen anything yet.



Slightly higher taxes on the wealthy aren't going to raise the
unemployment rate.

I was in a new condo yesterday, still under construction, on which the
owner spent $10 million. He and his buddies aren't going to miss a few
tens of thousands of dollars a year for fairer taxes.

Don't rely too heavily on monkey ears'promises. You will be
disappointed. Guaranteed

BAR[_3_] November 8th 08 02:36 PM

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he
died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.
Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be
*someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along
the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.

The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.


You don't pay federal income taxes.


The problem is I haven't been paying Social Security taxes for the
last 1/3 of the year. But, once The Obama gets sworn in I'll be paying
them for the full year.

Do you know how many jobs are going to be lost because of that
increase in taxes? If you think 6.5% unemployment is high you haven't
seen anything yet.



Slightly higher taxes on the wealthy aren't going to raise the
unemployment rate.


You miss or ignore the point again. The companies that have to pay the
increased Social Security taxes will cause the unemployment rate to
increase.

I was in a new condo yesterday, still under construction, on which the
owner spent $10 million. He and his buddies aren't going to miss a few
tens of thousands of dollars a year for fairer taxes.


Again you are looking at it from the individual's perspective. You need
to look at it from the companies perspective. If the company's labor
costs increase by 10% due to increased federal state and local tax
costs that money is going to come on the backs of the current labor
force in by layoffs.

Capital improvements will be delayed do to the reduced availability of
labor to implement those improvements. Since the company will not be
buying new equipment and services for those improvements it spirals
throughout the entire economy.

The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.



Boater November 8th 08 02:39 PM

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he
died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.
Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be
*someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along
the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.

The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.


You don't pay federal income taxes.

The problem is I haven't been paying Social Security taxes for the
last 1/3 of the year. But, once The Obama gets sworn in I'll be
paying them for the full year.

Do you know how many jobs are going to be lost because of that
increase in taxes? If you think 6.5% unemployment is high you haven't
seen anything yet.



Slightly higher taxes on the wealthy aren't going to raise the
unemployment rate.


You miss or ignore the point again. The companies that have to pay the
increased Social Security taxes will cause the unemployment rate to
increase.

I was in a new condo yesterday, still under construction, on which the
owner spent $10 million. He and his buddies aren't going to miss a few
tens of thousands of dollars a year for fairer taxes.


Again you are looking at it from the individual's perspective. You need
to look at it from the companies perspective. If the company's labor
costs increase by 10% due to increased federal state and local tax costs
that money is going to come on the backs of the current labor force in
by layoffs.

Capital improvements will be delayed do to the reduced availability of
labor to implement those improvements. Since the company will not be
buying new equipment and services for those improvements it spirals
throughout the entire economy.

The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.




Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

BAR[_3_] November 8th 08 03:05 PM

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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 7, 9:07 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
It's over. You lost big time. Get over it.
Heh. I had to laugh. I remember someone saying that to Harry.
Took him eight years.
Eisboch
Now he can gloat and, **** & moan, simultaneously. It's like he
died and
went to heaven, or wherever he would go.
Now we can look to the future and remember there will always be
*someone*
here to defend/rationalize every *O* and democrat mis-step along
the way.
Oh, and find a way to blame it on Bush and those nasty evangelicals.

The only difference is us "wingers" (moderate republicans) won't
spend
the next 4 years making up stories,namecalling, and running
interference for our worst criminals, in an attempt to subvert our
elected government... We will probably buck up, pay more taxes, and
hope for the future. Time will tell.


You don't pay federal income taxes.

The problem is I haven't been paying Social Security taxes for the
last 1/3 of the year. But, once The Obama gets sworn in I'll be
paying them for the full year.

Do you know how many jobs are going to be lost because of that
increase in taxes? If you think 6.5% unemployment is high you
haven't seen anything yet.


Slightly higher taxes on the wealthy aren't going to raise the
unemployment rate.


You miss or ignore the point again. The companies that have to pay the
increased Social Security taxes will cause the unemployment rate to
increase.

I was in a new condo yesterday, still under construction, on which
the owner spent $10 million. He and his buddies aren't going to miss
a few tens of thousands of dollars a year for fairer taxes.


Again you are looking at it from the individual's perspective. You
need to look at it from the companies perspective. If the company's
labor costs increase by 10% due to increased federal state and local
tax costs that money is going to come on the backs of the current
labor force in by layoffs.

Capital improvements will be delayed do to the reduced availability of
labor to implement those improvements. Since the company will not be
buying new equipment and services for those improvements it spirals
throughout the entire economy.

The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is
to cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you
want to see money start moving through the economy that's the way to
do it.




Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.


Yet you rely upon those corporations to provide you with your daily needs.

Eisboch November 8th 08 03:21 PM

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HK wrote:


BAR wrote:

The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.




Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.



You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all. It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid, not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch



Vic Smith November 8th 08 03:22 PM

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:49:15 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .


You might be too young to remember Everett Dirksen's voice.
Cool.
Hey, check this out. Spiro Agnew rapping.
Found it looking for an example of Dirksen.



Here's a link to a c-span site that has some old interviews with the likes
of Everett Dirksen, Hubert Humphrey, Barry Goldwater, etc.

It took a minute or so for the page to begin loading, but then did so
quickly. There's a couple of 45 minute interviews with Dirksen. Fun to
listen to that distinctive voice and personality behind it again.

http://www.c-span.org/apa/cong_lead....t_events,lcng;

or: http://tinyurl.com/6lz5f2

Eisboch

Thanks. For some reason I always get a "page can't be displayed"
error. Maybe tomorrow it'll work.

--Vic

JohnH[_3_] November 8th 08 11:17 PM

Looks like..
 
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


HK wrote:


BAR wrote:

The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.




Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.



You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all. It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid, not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch


I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes for the
next election.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Don White November 8th 08 11:56 PM

Looks like..
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


HK wrote:


BAR wrote:

The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is
to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you want
to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.




Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.



You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican alike
are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide resources
for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They exist
to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all. It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid, not a
fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch


I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give everyone
in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes for
the
next election.
--



Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer money
at 'corporate welfare bums'.



BAR[_3_] November 9th 08 12:01 AM

Looks like..
 
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again is
to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you want
to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican alike
are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide resources
for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They exist
to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all. It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid, not a
fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give everyone
in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes for
the
next election.
--



Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer money
at 'corporate welfare bums'.


Hey Donnie, you are an American too.

DK November 9th 08 01:45 AM

Looks like..
 
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving
again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you
want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican
alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide
resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k
plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They
exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending
unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all. It
may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid,
not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give
everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car
from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes
for the
next election.
--



Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer
money at 'corporate welfare bums'.


Hey Donnie, you are an American too.


He's Canadian but lives most of his life in an American's ass.


Don White November 9th 08 02:37 AM

Looks like..
 

"DK" wrote in message
...
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving again
is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you
want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican
alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide
resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k plans
for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize
and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They
exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending
unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all. It
may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid, not
a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give
everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car from
one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes for
the
next election.
--


Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer
money at 'corporate welfare bums'.


Hey Donnie, you are an American too.


He's Canadian but lives most of his life in an American's ass.



Is the entire Drone Army fixated on male buttocks?
I'd hate to see y'all out on maneuvers.



BAR[_3_] November 9th 08 03:43 AM

Looks like..
 
DK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving
again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you
want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican
alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide
resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k
plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize
and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They
exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending
unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all.
It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid,
not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give
everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car
from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes
for the
next election.
--


Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer
money at 'corporate welfare bums'.


Hey Donnie, you are an American too.


He's Canadian but lives most of his life in an American's ass.


North America, Central America, South America. The America's. We are all
Americans.

Boater November 9th 08 03:57 AM

Looks like..
 
BAR wrote:
DK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving
again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you
want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do
it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican
alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide
resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k
plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than
downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They
exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending
unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all.
It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid,
not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and
possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give
everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car
from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes
for the
next election.
--


Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer
money at 'corporate welfare bums'.

Hey Donnie, you are an American too.


He's Canadian but lives most of his life in an American's ass.


North America, Central America, South America. The America's. We are all
Americans.



Your gal Palin didn't know what three countries comprised North America.
She was the perfect candidate for today's GOP, a conservative,
simple-minded, ignorant fool.

BAR[_3_] November 9th 08 03:49 PM

Looks like..
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
DK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving
again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If
you want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to
do it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican
alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide
resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k
plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than
downsize and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare.
They exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending
unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all.
It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid,
not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and
possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give
everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car
from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more
votes for the
next election.
--


Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing
taxpayer money at 'corporate welfare bums'.

Hey Donnie, you are an American too.

He's Canadian but lives most of his life in an American's ass.


North America, Central America, South America. The America's. We are
all Americans.



Your gal Palin didn't know what three countries comprised North America.
She was the perfect candidate for today's GOP, a conservative,
simple-minded, ignorant fool.


Neither does you buddy Donnie! He must be an ignorant fool too!

Don White November 9th 08 04:48 PM

Looks like..
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
DK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:21:24 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
The best thing for The Obama to do to get the economy moving
again is to
cut all federal taxes by 50%, captial gains, income, ... If you
want to
see money start moving through the economy that's the way to do
it.


Sorry, I have NO trust in corporations to do the right thing.

You belong on an island then.

Virtually all economists and politicians, Democrat and Republican
alike are
focused on invigorating business to curb unemployment, provide
resources for
health care and other benefits plus recover lost values in 401k
plans for
retirements. The economy won't recover until business, meaning
corporations, have a reason to grow and expand rather than downsize
and
shrink. Corporations don't exist to provide social welfare. They
exist to
make a profit.

The current problems are not going to be solved by extending
unemployment
benefits or providing free, taxpayer funded health care for all.
It may
temporarily ease the pain somewhat for some, but it's a band-aid,
not a fix.

Even your man Obama is in favor of a bailout for GM, Ford and
possibly
Chrysler. Mistake IMO.

Eisboch

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't come up with a plan to give
everyone in
the 'middle class' a check for $25,000 to spend only on a new car
from one
of the three.

That would solve the car makers problems and buy a bunch more votes
for the
next election.
--


Unbelievable! You 'mericans are worse than us for throwing taxpayer
money at 'corporate welfare bums'.

Hey Donnie, you are an American too.

He's Canadian but lives most of his life in an American's ass.


North America, Central America, South America. The America's. We are all
Americans.



Your gal Palin didn't know what three countries comprised North America.
She was the perfect candidate for today's GOP, a conservative,
simple-minded, ignorant fool.


Neither does you buddy Donnie! He must be an ignorant fool too!



Bertie...you taking the same 'stupid pills' as Ditzy Dan?
Where did I say I didn't know which countries comprised North America??
Don't confuse me with that tart from the bush.



Calif Bill November 9th 08 06:05 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...


Bertie...you taking the same 'stupid pills' as Ditzy Dan?
Where did I say I didn't know which countries comprised North America??
Don't confuse me with that tart from the bush.


Well Don, she seems to have done better in government employment than you
did.




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