"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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The latest USA Today-Gallup Poll results, in tomorrow's edition of USA
Today:

Obama 53%
McCain 42%


Similar results in the latest NY Times survey.


Looks like it's going to take more than calling Obama a socialist,
shouting out to Rev. Wright, and pinning one's hopes on Joe the
Non-Licensed Plumber.



I don't think that this guy is going to give up. If he's correct and the
proof comes to light after the election, we are in for some interesting
times.

Last I heard, the Obama crowd and the DNC cited "proof" as being a
statement by some bureaucrat in Hawaii. This guy isn't buying it and is
still asking questions. Also, still missing in action apparently are
some of his pertinent college records that would indicate nationality.

I don't know enough about this to form an opinion other than I think
Obama should provide certified documents and not rely upon "hearsay".
It's not prying into his past ... heck, even some regular job
applications require some of this basic information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Eisboch


I wouldn't pin my hopes on a right-wing crackpot.

I don't. Nor do I have any specific "hopes". I am just disgusted with all
the dishonesty.
However, the claims in the lawsuit may have some legs. He's not the only
one who is digging into the issue.
If there's any merit to the claims, the media will have a field day once
their romance with Obama is over.
There's nothing better for ratings than a good old constitutional crisis.

Eisboch

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:44:39 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I don't. Nor do I have any specific "hopes". I am just disgusted with
all the dishonesty.
However, the claims in the lawsuit may have some legs. He's not the
only one who is digging into the issue.
If there's any merit to the claims, the media will have a field day once
their romance with Obama is over.
There's nothing better for ratings than a good old constitutional
crisis.

Eisboch

If you are talking about the Berg suit, it was dismissed a week ago. Not
to shoot the messenger, but Berg does have a colorful history. He sued
Bush under RICO statutes, suggesting prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
By the by, Obama has produced a Birth Certificate from Hawaii.

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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:44:39 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I don't. Nor do I have any specific "hopes". I am just disgusted with
all the dishonesty.
However, the claims in the lawsuit may have some legs. He's not the
only one who is digging into the issue.
If there's any merit to the claims, the media will have a field day once
their romance with Obama is over.
There's nothing better for ratings than a good old constitutional
crisis.

Eisboch

If you are talking about the Berg suit, it was dismissed a week ago. Not
to shoot the messenger, but Berg does have a colorful history. He sued
Bush under RICO statutes, suggesting prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
By the by, Obama has produced a Birth Certificate from Hawaii.

The birth certificate is questionable and what about education and medical
records?

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:29:19 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


If you are talking about the Berg suit, it was dismissed a week ago.
Not to shoot the messenger, but Berg does have a colorful history. He
sued Bush under RICO statutes, suggesting prior knowledge of the 9/11
attacks. By the by, Obama has produced a Birth Certificate from Hawaii.

The birth certificate is questionable and what about education and
medical records?

Grasping at straws, or do you think he's some sort of "sleeper"? Only
the truly paranoid would think he is anything but what he says he is, an
American citizen born in Hawaii.

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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:29:19 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


If you are talking about the Berg suit, it was dismissed a week ago.
Not to shoot the messenger, but Berg does have a colorful history. He
sued Bush under RICO statutes, suggesting prior knowledge of the 9/11
attacks. By the by, Obama has produced a Birth Certificate from Hawaii.
The birth certificate is questionable and what about education and
medical records?

Grasping at straws, or do you think he's some sort of "sleeper"? Only
the truly paranoid would think he is anything but what he says he is, an
American citizen born in Hawaii.

It can all be cleared up the registrar of vital records in Honolulu. I
can't figure out why, if everything is on the up and up, Obama hasn't
let this information be released. In the best case it would put all of
this talk to rest. But, if there is some validity to the charges that
Obama is hiding something then it is going to come out. What do you do
with a guy who committed fraud to run for the presidency? What do you do
with his running mate?

BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:29:19 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


If you are talking about the Berg suit, it was dismissed a week ago.
Not to shoot the messenger, but Berg does have a colorful history. He
sued Bush under RICO statutes, suggesting prior knowledge of the 9/11
attacks. By the by, Obama has produced a Birth Certificate from Hawaii.
The birth certificate is questionable and what about education and
medical records?

Grasping at straws, or do you think he's some sort of "sleeper"? Only
the truly paranoid would think he is anything but what he says he is,
an American citizen born in Hawaii.

It can all be cleared up the registrar of vital records in Honolulu. I
can't figure out why, if everything is on the up and up, Obama hasn't
let this information be released. In the best case it would put all of
this talk to rest. But, if there is some validity to the charges that
Obama is hiding something then it is going to come out. What do you do
with a guy who committed fraud to run for the presidency? What do you do
with his running mate?

Prove he wasn't born in Hawaii, dipschitt. And who really cares if the
right-wing dipschitts are "up in arms" over this, anyway?

"Boater" wrote in message
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Prove he wasn't born in Hawaii, dipschitt. And who really cares if the
right-wing dipschitts are "up in arms" over this, anyway?



Sad that anyone who has questions or reservations about *your* candidate is
automatically a dipschitt.

Eisboch

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:29:19 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


If you are talking about the Berg suit, it was dismissed a week
ago. Not to shoot the messenger, but Berg does have a colorful
history. He
sued Bush under RICO statutes, suggesting prior knowledge of the 9/11
attacks. By the by, Obama has produced a Birth Certificate from
Hawaii.
The birth certificate is questionable and what about education and
medical records?

Grasping at straws, or do you think he's some sort of "sleeper"?
Only the truly paranoid would think he is anything but what he says
he is, an American citizen born in Hawaii.

It can all be cleared up the registrar of vital records in Honolulu. I
can't figure out why, if everything is on the up and up, Obama hasn't
let this information be released. In the best case it would put all of
this talk to rest. But, if there is some validity to the charges that
Obama is hiding something then it is going to come out. What do you do
with a guy who committed fraud to run for the presidency? What do you
do with his running mate?

Prove he wasn't born in Hawaii, dipschitt. And who really cares if the
right-wing dipschitts are "up in arms" over this, anyway?

Obama can clear up the question all by himself by releasing a true copy
of the record stored at Hawaii's vital records division. Not a printout
of the information stored in an electronic database.

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:48:57 -0500, WaIIy wrote:


The original or a copy of the original birth certificate has NOT been
produced.

A copy of the short form has been produced.


Read my sentence carefully.

I will give you my boat if you can produce a copy of the ORIGINAL,
long-form birth certificate.

Sorry, no can do. It's not a public document, but I can produce this:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...R3dqgD945OLU00

And this:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html


BTW, if you read the dismissal, the reason is unbelievable.

"If, through the political process, Congress determines that citizens,
voters, or party members should police the ConstitutionÂ’s eligibility
requirements for the Presidency, then it is free to pass laws conferring
standing on individuals like Plaintiff. Until that time, voters do not
have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to
bring in the Amended Complaint."

Pretty much the same reason a judge dismissed a similar suit regarding
John McCain's citizenship.

http://getdrunkandvote4mccain.com/ar...t-over-mccain-
citizenship

It's getting pretty silly, don't you think?

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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:48:57 -0500, WaIIy wrote:


The original or a copy of the original birth certificate has NOT been
produced.

A copy of the short form has been produced.


Read my sentence carefully.

I will give you my boat if you can produce a copy of the ORIGINAL,
long-form birth certificate.

Sorry, no can do. It's not a public document, but I can produce this:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...R3dqgD945OLU00

And this:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That's the best explanation for the validity of the birth certificate I've
seen and seems plausible.

Now where's the education records?