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Tim October 22nd 08 03:39 AM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Oct 21, 9:00*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.


I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.


I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard.
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! *It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.


so I did a bit of looking around and found this:


http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...ng-synthetic-t...


I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good.
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.


I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.


MDO plywood and seal the edges very well. I used epoxy resin. *Mine is
going on 18 years, I'm a 12 month boater in salt water. The boat is in
the water or swinging over it on hooks virtually all the time.
I glassed over the joints on top and pained the deck with a couple of
gallons of elastomeric roof coating before I put the carpet down.
Getting ready for the 3d carpet but the deck is still solid except a
small bad spot where I drilled a hole and didn't seal the edge of the
bored hole. Next carpet time I am just going to cut out that bad spot,
plug it and seal it well.


Now that you've pointed that out, I can see why the plywood is the
choice.

Hey thanks man. this is getting to be fairly educational.

good advice all the way around!

[email protected] October 22nd 08 01:17 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Oct 21, 10:30*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Oct 21, 8:07*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.


I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.


I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard..
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! *It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.


so I did a bit of looking around and found this:


http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...ng-synthetic-t....


I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good..
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.


I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.


Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


(Hee, hee!)
--
A Harry Krause truism:


"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]


LOL!


Well, not really. *And no it's not cheap, but really, neither is
exterior or marine plywood.


One of the functions of the plywood is to stiffen up the structure.
Planking would have to be run fore and aft and probably should be 24'
long (about as much deck as you get on a 28) You still would have the
racking problem if you didn't have diagonal members in the design.
In a chop or boat wake a pontoon gets a lot of flexing stress. The
plywood damps this.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yep, that's called a diaphram. Same way roof deck works on structures
with bar joists.

Richard Casady October 22nd 08 04:42 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Tim October 22nd 08 07:00 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady


Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

JohnH[_3_] October 22nd 08 11:38 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady


Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!


I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Tim October 23rd 08 01:47 AM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.


Casady


Oh! I agree.


But wouldn't it look nice?


?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.


This is what Rec.Boats is for!


I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--

Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?


Vic Smith October 23rd 08 01:54 AM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

--

Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?


Looks like vinyl to me.
No fish or barnacle patterns available?

--Vic

JohnH[_3_] October 23rd 08 03:39 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.


Casady


Oh! I agree.


But wouldn't it look nice?


?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.


This is what Rec.Boats is for!


I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--

Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?


That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

JohnH[_3_] October 23rd 08 03:41 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:54:16 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

--

Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?


Looks like vinyl to me.
No fish or barnacle patterns available?

--Vic


You don't know the difference between pure, 100% linoleum and friggin'
*vinyl*? You'll never be a renowned pontoon boat deck designer.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Tim October 23rd 08 04:12 PM

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 
On Oct 23, 9:39*am, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?


I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.


Casady


Oh! I agree.


But wouldn't it look nice?


?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.


This is what Rec.Boats is for!


I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--

Hey John.


Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.


So far I have this picked out.


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...


Ai't it great?


That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.


?;^ Q


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