re powering a pontoon
 

OK, I think it's a bit of over kill but I may have found a good deal
on a 28' pontoon. The San-pan is 'toons are in excellent shape but the
rest is bogus. no engine (but has Evinrude controls) will need a new
steering cable because someone took a torch to it to steal the 85 hp.
v-4 that was on it. rotten floor , rotten seats, rotten all the way
over. But the frame, floats and trailer are good. A winter project
for sure.

I have a 115 v-4 hanging in the garage. But I also have access to a 28
hp turbo Kabota. not much HP but buckets of torque for it's size, not
counting an unsurpassed fuel economy.

Obviously you can probably tell what I'm thinking of doing. I'm not
thrilled with the thought of smelling diesel fuel, but I know several
fellows that are into burning french fry grease in their pickups. and
with little modification, can be done rather simply and effectively.

Anyhow, this diesel weights less than a small block GM and I've known
of several large pontoons that are set up with v-8 I/O's. The local
machine shop can make adaptor plates and weld aluminum. I have a
couple of spare Alpha drives sitting back in the warehouse, that could
work on this project. Or I could use a shaft salvaged from my old
Chris Craft Cavalier with a Borg Warner "V-Drive" which would mount
the engine more amidships and even though it would take up floor space
would provide for better weight distribution.

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.



Does anyone know of a website that provides information or formulas
concerning power and weight distribution for what I'm thinking of
perusing?

Thanks!

re powering a pontoon
 

On Oct 21, 12:44*pm, Tim wrote:
OK, I think it's a bit of over kill but I may have found a good deal
on a 28' pontoon. The San-pan is 'toons are in excellent shape but the
rest is bogus. no engine (but has Evinrude controls) will need a new
steering cable because someone took a torch to it to steal the 85 hp.
v-4 that was on it. rotten floor , rotten seats, rotten all the way
over. But the frame, floats and trailer are good. * A winter project
for sure.

I have a 115 v-4 hanging in the garage. But I also have access to a 28
hp turbo Kabota. not much HP but buckets of torque for it's size, not
counting an unsurpassed fuel economy.

Obviously you can probably tell what I'm thinking of doing. I'm not
thrilled with the thought of smelling diesel fuel, but I know several
fellows that are into burning french fry grease in their pickups. and
with little modification, can be done rather simply and effectively.

Anyhow, *this diesel weights less than a small block GM and I've known
of several large pontoons that are set up with v-8 I/O's. The local
machine shop can make adaptor plates and weld aluminum. I have a
couple of spare Alpha drives sitting back in the warehouse, that could
work on this project. Or I could use a shaft salvaged from my old
Chris Craft Cavalier with a Borg Warner "V-Drive" which would mount
the engine more amidships and even though it would take up floor space
would provide for better weight distribution.

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. *flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.

Does anyone know of a website that provides information or formulas
concerning power and weight distribution for what I'm thinking of
perusing?

Thanks!

I think I'd go with the outboard. Reason being, hanging off the back
and low, they are very quite on a pontoon. I think the added noise,
along with the fact that it would probably need a lot of constant
tweaking, smell, and grease/oil would keep me from using the Kabota.
Would be a fun project though.

re powering a pontoon
 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

OK, I think it's a bit of over kill but I may have found a good deal
on a 28' pontoon. The San-pan is 'toons are in excellent shape but the
rest is bogus. no engine (but has Evinrude controls) will need a new
steering cable because someone took a torch to it to steal the 85 hp.
v-4 that was on it. rotten floor , rotten seats, rotten all the way
over. But the frame, floats and trailer are good. A winter project
for sure.

I have a 115 v-4 hanging in the garage. But I also have access to a 28
hp turbo Kabota. not much HP but buckets of torque for it's size, not
counting an unsurpassed fuel economy.

Obviously you can probably tell what I'm thinking of doing. I'm not
thrilled with the thought of smelling diesel fuel, but I know several
fellows that are into burning french fry grease in their pickups. and
with little modification, can be done rather simply and effectively.

Anyhow, this diesel weights less than a small block GM and I've known
of several large pontoons that are set up with v-8 I/O's. The local
machine shop can make adaptor plates and weld aluminum. I have a
couple of spare Alpha drives sitting back in the warehouse, that could
work on this project. Or I could use a shaft salvaged from my old
Chris Craft Cavalier with a Borg Warner "V-Drive" which would mount
the engine more amidships and even though it would take up floor space
would provide for better weight distribution.

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.



Does anyone know of a website that provides information or formulas
concerning power and weight distribution for what I'm thinking of
perusing?

Thanks!

If it's not here, it don't exist.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepo...ight_ratio.php

or

http://tinyurl.com/63vz3g

It sounds like it would be a fun project, if you've got the space, tools,
time, and stuff to do it with. You seem to have all those bases covered.
It's a shame Karen, from Australia, isn't still here. Sounds like this
would be right up her alley.

One of our more gracious members drove her off though.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon
 

On Oct 21, 11:56*am, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, I think it's a bit of over kill but I may have found a good deal
on a 28' pontoon. The San-pan is 'toons are in excellent shape but the
rest is bogus. no engine (but has Evinrude controls) will need a new
steering cable because someone took a torch to it to steal the 85 hp.
v-4 that was on it. rotten floor , rotten seats, rotten all the way
over. But the frame, floats and trailer are good. * A winter project
for sure.

I have a 115 v-4 hanging in the garage. But I also have access to a 28
hp turbo Kabota. not much HP but buckets of torque for it's size, not
counting an unsurpassed fuel economy.

Obviously you can probably tell what I'm thinking of doing. I'm not
thrilled with the thought of smelling diesel fuel, but I know several
fellows that are into burning french fry grease in their pickups. and
with little modification, can be done rather simply and effectively.

Anyhow, *this diesel weights less than a small block GM and I've known
of several large pontoons that are set up with v-8 I/O's. The local
machine shop can make adaptor plates and weld aluminum. I have a
couple of spare Alpha drives sitting back in the warehouse, that could
work on this project. Or I could use a shaft salvaged from my old
Chris Craft Cavalier with a Borg Warner "V-Drive" which would mount
the engine more amidships and even though it would take up floor space
would provide for better weight distribution.

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. *flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.

Does anyone know of a website that provides information or formulas
concerning power and weight distribution for what I'm thinking of
perusing?

Thanks!

If it's not here, it don't exist.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepo...tion_power_to_...

or

http://tinyurl.com/63vz3g

It sounds like it would be a fun project, if you've got the space, tools,
time, and stuff to do it with. You seem to have all those bases covered.
It's a shame Karen, from Australia, isn't still here. Sounds like this
would be right up her alley.

One of our more gracious members drove her off though.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks ffor the Site, John. that will take a bit of decifering. Also
Loog, I think you have the right idea about using the 115.

I didn't think of all the noise being listed int he equasion. My
little 18' Chris craft has a 3.0 GM I./O and even with good foam
padding on the engine cover it's still clattery and noisy.... and
that's normal!

Interesting that the 350 chevy in the 23' cuddy is almost quiet as a
mouse.

re powering a pontoon
 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.

It is unlikely that 28 hp will get it going on plane which will limit
you to fast displacement speeds, maybe 10 to 12 mph if you are lucky.
You really do not want to be underpowered on a river with 8 to 12 mph
of current.

re powering a pontoon
 

On Oct 21, 1:16*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 21, 11:56*am, JohnH wrote:





On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, I think it's a bit of over kill but I may have found a good deal
on a 28' pontoon. The San-pan is 'toons are in excellent shape but the
rest is bogus. no engine (but has Evinrude controls) will need a new
steering cable because someone took a torch to it to steal the 85 hp.
v-4 that was on it. rotten floor , rotten seats, rotten all the way
over. But the frame, floats and trailer are good. * A winter project
for sure.

I have a 115 v-4 hanging in the garage. But I also have access to a 28
hp turbo Kabota. not much HP but buckets of torque for it's size, not
counting an unsurpassed fuel economy.

Obviously you can probably tell what I'm thinking of doing. I'm not
thrilled with the thought of smelling diesel fuel, but I know several
fellows that are into burning french fry grease in their pickups. and
with little modification, can be done rather simply and effectively.

Anyhow, *this diesel weights less than a small block GM and I've known
of several large pontoons that are set up with v-8 I/O's. The local
machine shop can make adaptor plates and weld aluminum. I have a
couple of spare Alpha drives sitting back in the warehouse, that could
work on this project. Or I could use a shaft salvaged from my old
Chris Craft Cavalier with a Borg Warner "V-Drive" which would mount
the engine more amidships and even though it would take up floor space
would provide for better weight distribution.

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. *flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.

Does anyone know of a website that provides information or formulas
concerning power and weight distribution for what I'm thinking of
perusing?

Thanks!

If it's not here, it don't exist.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepo...tion_power_to_...

or

http://tinyurl.com/63vz3g

It sounds like it would be a fun project, if you've got the space, tools,
time, and stuff to do it with. You seem to have all those bases covered..
It's a shame Karen, from Australia, isn't still here. Sounds like this
would be right up her alley.

One of our more gracious members drove her off though.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks ffor the Site, John. that will take a bit of decifering. Also
Loog, I think you have the right idea about using the 115.

I didn't think of all the noise being listed int he equasion. My
little 18' Chris craft has a 3.0 GM I./O and even with good foam
padding on the engine cover it's still clattery and noisy.... and
that's normal!

Interesting that the 350 chevy in the 23' cuddy is almost quiet as a
mouse.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, I'm thinking that the Kabota would transfer a LOT of noise/
vibration into the boat. Being a pontoon, and harmonics being what
they are, there's just really know telling what it'd sound like until
you tried it.

re powering a pontoon
 

On Oct 21, 12:20*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm not necessarily into speed but more into economical performance.
Of course the Speed would probably be determined on how many people
one stacks on the boat, but I'd like to look over the options. But
seeing this would be on a mild lake or slow river (normal flow 7 mph,
max. *flow 12 mph) It might be a neat project.

It is unlikely that 28 hp will get it going on plane which will limit
you to fast displacement speeds, maybe 10 to 12 mph if you are lucky.
You really do not want to be underpowered on a river with 8 to 12 mph
of current.

That's another good call. Yes. one hp per ft. doesn't really sound
very encouraging. and top end on glass'smooth water mgith be in the 15
mph range. Not too good if fighting a current of 12 on the river and
especially when there's 8-12 people on board.

More for consideration.

Thanks Wayne.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.

I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.

I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard.
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.

so I did a bit of looking around and found this:

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...65-125119.html

I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good.
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.

I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.

I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.

I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard.
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.

so I did a bit of looking around and found this:

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...65-125119.html

I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good.
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.

I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.

Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

(Hee, hee!)
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 21, 8:07*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.

I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.

I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard.
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! *It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.

so I did a bit of looking around and found this:

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...ng-synthetic-t...

I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good.
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.

I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.

Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

(Hee, hee!)
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

LOL!

Well, not really. And no it's not cheap, but really, neither is
exterior or marine plywood.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 21, 9:00*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.

I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.

I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard.
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! *It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.

so I did a bit of looking around and found this:

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...ng-synthetic-t...

I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good.
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.

I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.

MDO plywood and seal the edges very well. I used epoxy resin. *Mine is
going on 18 years, I'm a 12 month boater in salt water. The boat is in
the water or swinging over it on hooks virtually all the time.
I glassed over the joints on top and pained the deck with a couple of
gallons of elastomeric roof coating before I put the carpet down.
Getting ready for the 3d carpet but the deck is still solid except a
small bad spot where I drilled a hole and didn't seal the edge of the
bored hole. Next carpet time I am just going to cut out that bad spot,
plug it and seal it well.

Now that you've pointed that out, I can see why the plywood is the
choice.

Hey thanks man. this is getting to be fairly educational.

good advice all the way around!

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 21, 10:30*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Oct 21, 8:07*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, I've given in to using my 115 evinrude which would be the
practical way. and so I'm thinking of decking material seeing its
really soft that is, what wood is still there.

I'm not against the idea of using Marine ply, but I've always wondered
why composite wod wouldn't be a better selection.

I got tired of my front porch rotting away ever 5 years, because the
treated pine couldn't hold up against the brunt of weather and baking
sun because out house faces the west. and the summer sun hits it hard..
So I bit the bullet and went with composite decking material (Trex) I
lvoe it! *It was easy to work with, and no maintenance, painting, and
it doesn't rot.

so I did a bit of looking around and found this:

http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/teck-...ng-synthetic-t....

I see they have used it for teak replacement and it looks pretty good..
Of course I might not be able to use it practically speaking, because
it would mean reinforcing with a couple extra floor joints (I suppose
that's what you'd call them) But I do like the idea of it lasting for
absolutely years.

I'm also wondering why pontoon and boat mfg's don't use more of these
products. especially in stringer construction.

Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

(Hee, hee!)
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

LOL!

Well, not really. *And no it's not cheap, but really, neither is
exterior or marine plywood.

One of the functions of the plywood is to stiffen up the structure.
Planking would have to be run fore and aft and probably should be 24'
long (about as much deck as you get on a 28) You still would have the
racking problem if you didn't have diagonal members in the design.
In a chop or boat wake a pontoon gets a lot of flexing stress. The
plywood damps this.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep, that's called a diaphram. Same way roof deck works on structures
with bar joists.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q


Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?

Looks like vinyl to me.
No fish or barnacle patterns available?

--Vic

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:54:16 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...I/P1000313.JPG

Ai't it great?

Looks like vinyl to me.
No fish or barnacle patterns available?

--Vic

You don't know the difference between pure, 100% linoleum and friggin'
*vinyl*? You'll never be a renowned pontoon boat deck designer.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 23, 9:39*am, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.


?;^ Q

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 23, 11:12*am, Tim wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:39*am, JohnH wrote:





On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI....

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. *it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. *Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.

?;^ Q- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then you could use some old kitchen furniture, but be sure to bolt
down the chair you'll be using to drive the boat!

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 23, 10:42*am, wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:12*am, Tim wrote:





On Oct 23, 9:39*am, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. *it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. *Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.

?;^ Q- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then you could use some old kitchen furniture, but be sure to bolt
down the chair you'll be using to drive the boat!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loog, we're on the same track. Instead of paying out $500. plus a
piece for pontoon furniture etc, I was thinking more on the $20.00
yard sale couch etc. Especially if I can find some that has that "oak
barrel" look.

But reflecting from the past I rememeber the days of my ill-spent
youth. some *buddies* any I were going to take an old 10x45 house
trailer and strap plastic 55 gal. barrels under it ( a bunch of 'em!)
Take a truck salvaged 350 chevy and automatic transmission , make a
direct drive on the drive shaft, and have dual rudders complete with
power steering from the rack and pinion from a Chevette. Steering and
rudders up front, engine in the back (seemed like it ought to work). A
4-K generator to power the freezer, microwave, TV, lights and
refrigerator. Freezer for food, 'frige for beer.

We were planning on dropping in at Vincennes In. float it to the Ohio,
then to the Missippi. and ride it out to the Delta.

We didn;t think we'd need to check with C Guard or any water
authorities, after all. if it was good enough for Huck Finn it was
good enough for us!

Well, needless to say it never happened, because 30 years later, I'm
alive to write about it.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Oct 23, 10:42 am, wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:12 am, Tim wrote:





On Oct 23, 9:39 am, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH
wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior
plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some
good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and
the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You
couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.

?;^ Q- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then you could use some old kitchen furniture, but be sure to bolt
down the chair you'll be using to drive the boat!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loog, we're on the same track. Instead of paying out $500. plus a
piece for pontoon furniture etc, I was thinking more on the $20.00
yard sale couch etc. Especially if I can find some that has that "oak
barrel" look.

But reflecting from the past I rememeber the days of my ill-spent
youth. some *buddies* any I were going to take an old 10x45 house
trailer and strap plastic 55 gal. barrels under it ( a bunch of 'em!)
Take a truck salvaged 350 chevy and automatic transmission , make a
direct drive on the drive shaft, and have dual rudders complete with
power steering from the rack and pinion from a Chevette. Steering and
rudders up front, engine in the back (seemed like it ought to work). A
4-K generator to power the freezer, microwave, TV, lights and
refrigerator. Freezer for food, 'frige for beer.

We were planning on dropping in at Vincennes In. float it to the Ohio,
then to the Missippi. and ride it out to the Delta.

We didn;t think we'd need to check with C Guard or any water
authorities, after all. if it was good enough for Huck Finn it was
good enough for us!

Well, needless to say it never happened, because 30 years later, I'm
alive to write about it.

Boat vinyl flooring is called Nautilex. Best price is at Cabelas.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 23, 1:29*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Oct 23, 10:42 am, wrote:





On Oct 23, 11:12 am, Tim wrote:

On Oct 23, 9:39 am, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH
wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior
plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some
good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and
the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You
couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.

?;^ Q- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then you could use some old kitchen furniture, but be sure to bolt
down the chair you'll be using to drive the boat!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loog, we're on the same track. Instead of paying out $500. plus *a
piece for pontoon furniture etc, I was thinking more on the $20.00
yard sale couch etc. Especially if I can find some that has that "oak
barrel" look.

But reflecting from the past I rememeber the days of my ill-spent
youth. some *buddies* any I were going to take an old 10x45 house
trailer and strap plastic 55 gal. barrels under it ( a bunch of 'em!)
Take a truck salvaged 350 chevy and automatic transmission , make a
direct drive on the drive shaft, and have dual rudders complete with
power steering from the rack and pinion from a Chevette. Steering and
rudders up front, engine in the back (seemed like it ought to work). A
4-K generator to power the freezer, *microwave, TV, lights and
refrigerator. Freezer for food, 'frige for beer.

We were planning on dropping in at Vincennes In. float it to the Ohio,
then to the Missippi. and ride it out to the Delta.

We didn;t think we'd need to check with C Guard or any water
authorities, after all. if it was good enough for Huck Finn it was
good enough for us!

Well, needless to say it never happened, because 30 years later, I'm
alive to write about it.

Boat vinyl flooring is called Nautilex. *Best price is at Cabelas.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Boat vinyl?" "Nautilex?" "Cabelas?"


Man, I'm talking "Cheap Lanolium" (by the roll) at "Bob's Outletand
Salvage" or "cousin Fred's Discount"

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 23, 9:39*am, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.


?;^ Q

Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:29:38 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Oct 23, 10:42 am, wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:12 am, Tim wrote:





On Oct 23, 9:39 am, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH
wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior
plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some
good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and
the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You
couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.

?;^ Q- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then you could use some old kitchen furniture, but be sure to bolt
down the chair you'll be using to drive the boat!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loog, we're on the same track. Instead of paying out $500. plus a
piece for pontoon furniture etc, I was thinking more on the $20.00
yard sale couch etc. Especially if I can find some that has that "oak
barrel" look.

But reflecting from the past I rememeber the days of my ill-spent
youth. some *buddies* any I were going to take an old 10x45 house
trailer and strap plastic 55 gal. barrels under it ( a bunch of 'em!)
Take a truck salvaged 350 chevy and automatic transmission , make a
direct drive on the drive shaft, and have dual rudders complete with
power steering from the rack and pinion from a Chevette. Steering and
rudders up front, engine in the back (seemed like it ought to work). A
4-K generator to power the freezer, microwave, TV, lights and
refrigerator. Freezer for food, 'frige for beer.

We were planning on dropping in at Vincennes In. float it to the Ohio,
then to the Missippi. and ride it out to the Delta.

We didn;t think we'd need to check with C Guard or any water
authorities, after all. if it was good enough for Huck Finn it was
good enough for us!

Well, needless to say it never happened, because 30 years later, I'm
alive to write about it.

Boat vinyl flooring is called Nautilex. Best price is at Cabelas.


Real men don't do Cabelas for linoleum!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 24, 7:54*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:39*am, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?

I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.

Casady

Oh! I agree.

But wouldn't it look nice?

?;^ Q

Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.

This is what Rec.Boats is for!

I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.

Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.

So far I have this picked out.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI....

Ai't it great?

That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. *it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. *Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.

?;^ Q

Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It always is good to explore all options, John.

I'll be going over this afternoon to possibly close the deal.

28' pontoon and trailer for $1200.00?

Might be in my back yard this evening.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 23, 9:39 am, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?
I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.
Casady
Oh! I agree.
But wouldn't it look nice?
?;^ Q
Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.
This is what Rec.Boats is for!
I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.
Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.
So far I have this picked out.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...
Ai't it great?
That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.


?;^ Q

Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!

The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. Have you two been riding
together?

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:33:34 -0400, DK wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 23, 9:39 am, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:47:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:38 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:07:52 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Cost maybe? Is that stuff cheap? Have you considered exterior plywood
covered with a fancy linoleum?
I would think lino would be slippery, especially when wet.
Casady
Oh! I agree.
But wouldn't it look nice?
?;^ Q
Seriously though, Hey, I'm enjoying this thread. It's giving some good
insight on things which I appreciate.
This is what Rec.Boats is for!
I knew you had good taste. Besides, a little glue and some sand and the
slipperiness is history!
--
Hey John.
Thanks for the heads up on the linoleum.
So far I have this picked out.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7yX2zsAqE18/Rh...Ko/fT3BiHzCPYI...
Ai't it great?
That's beautiful!

I especially like the 'fake moldy' look towards the middle. You couldn't
have done better!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

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Well, I look at it like this John.

Popel go out and pay 100+ bucks for a pair of worn out, faided, dirty
looking Jeans with raggedy holes in the knees, so I figured this might
be the ticket. it would give the pontoon floor that broken in "homey"
look. Of course I would need to ask permission, but I think I might
ask some people at the local trailer park what their kitchen floors
have. That gives more options, y'know.


?;^ Q

Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!

The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. Have you two been riding
together?

That seat's not nearly wide enough for WAFL.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

JohnH wrote:


?;^ Q
Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. Have you two been riding
together?

That seat's not nearly wide enough for WAFL.

That rug might be worth some serious cash. Take it to a oriental rug
dealer and get it appraised.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:34:33 -0400, jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:


?;^ Q
Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. Have you two been riding
together?

That seat's not nearly wide enough for WAFL.

That rug might be worth some serious cash. Take it to a oriental rug
dealer and get it appraised.

Let's wait for a few more oil changes thereon just to increase the value
some.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 26, 7:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:34:33 -0400, jim wrote:
JohnH wrote:

?;^ Q
Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. *Have you two been riding
together?

That seat's not nearly wide enough for WAFL.

That rug might be worth some serious cash. Take it to a oriental rug
dealer and get it appraised.

Let's wait for a few more oil changes thereon just to increase the value
some.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well guys. I passed on the pontoon. I went and looked at it in better
light and I had cash with me, and glad I didn't bite on it. The owner
said he wouldn't be there, but I could help myself to looking at it in
his machine shed. The pontoons were good looking, but I noticed that
even with the trailer sitting of flat and level concrete, I noticed
that one pontoon was actually higher than the other in the front and
lower in the back. I crawled underneath it and saw a slight wrinkle
about mid way back on one of the tubes. I then noticed on the
"Hoosier" style trailer that somebody had done some welding on the
frame, and a slight bend (more like a dent) in the front axle. Oh,
they did a good job welding on the frame, but I noticed that it
looked like they had taken a torch to heat the axle to straighten it
back out and where the damaged tube was, there was also a new tire and
rim. even though I didn't see any damage to the bottom of the tube,
like a heavy scrape or gouge, it hit me what probably happened.
Either a wreck from the tire blowing, and causing a semi roll-over, or
they hit something pretty hard, and it took out the tire and rim and
bent the axle. thus putting a wrinkle in the tube. Granted, this was a
stolen recovery vessel and it looked like it would have been a good
deal, especially since I had a spare engine to replace the one that
was stolen. I wouldn't mind building the boat from the floor on up,
and outfitting it the way I wanted, but that's too much damage. So,
It wasn't the bargain I thought it would be, so I walked.

Good thing , too!

Thanks for the advice on flooring and having a bit of fun with the
linoleum!

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Oct 29, 2:33*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



Well guys. I passed on the pontoon. I went and looked at it in better
light and I had cash with me, and glad I didn't bite on it. The owner
said he wouldn't be there, but I could help myself to looking at it in
his machine shed. The pontoons were good looking, but I noticed that
even with the trailer sitting of flat and level concrete, I noticed
that one pontoon was actually higher than the other in the front and
lower in the back. I crawled underneath it and saw a slight wrinkle
about mid way back on one of the tubes. *I then noticed on the
"Hoosier" style trailer that somebody had done some welding on the
frame, and a slight bend (more like a dent) in the front axle. Oh,
they did a good job *welding on the frame, but I noticed that it
looked like they had taken a torch to heat the axle to straighten it
back out and where the damaged tube was, there was also a new tire and
rim. even though I didn't see any damage to the bottom of the tube,
like a heavy scrape or gouge, *it hit me what probably happened.
Either a wreck from the tire blowing, and causing a semi roll-over, or
they hit something pretty hard, and it took out the tire and rim and
bent the axle. thus putting a wrinkle in the tube. Granted, this was a
stolen recovery vessel and it looked like it would have been a good
deal, especially since I had a spare engine to replace the one that
was stolen. *I wouldn't mind building the boat from the floor on up,
and outfitting it the way I wanted, but that's too much damage. *So,
It wasn't the bargain I thought it would be, so I walked.

Good call.

In this market you should be able to find a better deal.

One thing that will bend an axle is dropping a wheel off in a culvert
and having the axle hit the end cap.

agreed.

Anywho damage was done and noticed.

Yep, as winter comes on, there will be others. I'm giong to keep my
eyes open.

I did see an OK 26' pontoon complete with single axle trailer and 30
hp Johnson go on eBay for a BIN of $2100.00 . The seats were so-so but
it had a next to new (according to description) folding bimini top.
The guy said the only reason he was selling it was because he bought
another boat so it had to go. Sorry I couldn't have checked it out.
it was just 50 m. away too.

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 26, 7:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:34:33 -0400, jim wrote:
JohnH wrote:

?;^ Q
Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. *Have you two been riding
together?

That seat's not nearly wide enough for WAFL.

That rug might be worth some serious cash. Take it to a oriental rug
dealer and get it appraised.

Let's wait for a few more oil changes thereon just to increase the value
some.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well guys. I passed on the pontoon. I went and looked at it in better
light and I had cash with me, and glad I didn't bite on it. The owner
said he wouldn't be there, but I could help myself to looking at it in
his machine shed. The pontoons were good looking, but I noticed that
even with the trailer sitting of flat and level concrete, I noticed
that one pontoon was actually higher than the other in the front and
lower in the back. I crawled underneath it and saw a slight wrinkle
about mid way back on one of the tubes. I then noticed on the
"Hoosier" style trailer that somebody had done some welding on the
frame, and a slight bend (more like a dent) in the front axle. Oh,
they did a good job welding on the frame, but I noticed that it
looked like they had taken a torch to heat the axle to straighten it
back out and where the damaged tube was, there was also a new tire and
rim. even though I didn't see any damage to the bottom of the tube,
like a heavy scrape or gouge, it hit me what probably happened.
Either a wreck from the tire blowing, and causing a semi roll-over, or
they hit something pretty hard, and it took out the tire and rim and
bent the axle. thus putting a wrinkle in the tube. Granted, this was a
stolen recovery vessel and it looked like it would have been a good
deal, especially since I had a spare engine to replace the one that
was stolen. I wouldn't mind building the boat from the floor on up,
and outfitting it the way I wanted, but that's too much damage. So,
It wasn't the bargain I thought it would be, so I walked.

Good thing , too!

Thanks for the advice on flooring and having a bit of fun with the
linoleum!

Fun? I was serious as sin!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

re powering a pontoon, now decking material selection
 

On Nov 2, 3:02*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Oct 26, 7:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:34:33 -0400, jim wrote:
JohnH wrote:

?;^ Q
Now you're talking'!

Trailer parks are the way to go. You might try driving around the
neighborhood the evening before trash day also. That's how I picked up the
carpet for my garage. What do you think?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._DIS0001-1.jpg

That's appropriate for a great bike or two!
The bicycle in the back is sized for WAFA. *Have you two been riding
together?

That seat's not nearly wide enough for WAFL.

That rug might be worth some serious cash. Take it to a oriental rug
dealer and get it appraised.

Let's wait for a few more oil changes thereon just to increase the value
some.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well guys. I passed on the pontoon. I went and looked at it in better
light and I had cash with me, and glad I didn't bite on it. The owner
said he wouldn't be there, but I could help myself to looking at it in
his machine shed. The pontoons were good looking, but I noticed that
even with the trailer sitting of flat and level concrete, I noticed
that one pontoon was actually higher than the other in the front and
lower in the back. I crawled underneath it and saw a slight wrinkle
about mid way back on one of the tubes. *I then noticed on the
"Hoosier" style trailer that somebody had done some welding on the
frame, and a slight bend (more like a dent) in the front axle. Oh,
they did a good job *welding on the frame, but I noticed that it
looked like they had taken a torch to heat the axle to straighten it
back out and where the damaged tube was, there was also a new tire and
rim. even though I didn't see any damage to the bottom of the tube,
like a heavy scrape or gouge, *it hit me what probably happened.
Either a wreck from the tire blowing, and causing a semi roll-over, or
they hit something pretty hard, and it took out the tire and rim and
bent the axle. thus putting a wrinkle in the tube. Granted, this was a
stolen recovery vessel and it looked like it would have been a good
deal, especially since I had a spare engine to replace the one that
was stolen. *I wouldn't mind building the boat from the floor on up,
and outfitting it the way I wanted, but that's too much damage. *So,
It wasn't the bargain I thought it would be, so I walked.

Good thing , too!

Thanks for the advice on flooring and having a bit of fun with the
linoleum!

Fun? I was serious as sin!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
*[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Oh, I know John. I was serious too! but you can still have fun and be
serious.


I think.