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Tim October 18th 08 09:29 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.

i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?

Tim October 18th 08 11:22 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Oct 18, 3:29*pm, Tim wrote:
it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.

i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?


Well, I should say that's what the wife filled up for in St. Louis
today. Here it's $2.75 per gal.

Canuck57[_3_] October 18th 08 11:27 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.

i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?


Enjoy, it will probably be short lived. I give it a week and it will start
climbing again. Either inflation or Opec....



Tim October 18th 08 11:30 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Oct 18, 5:27*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.


i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?


Enjoy, it will probably be short lived. *I give it a week and it will start
climbing again. *Either inflation or Opec....


you could be right m'man. You could very well be right!

JimH[_2_] October 18th 08 11:35 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Oct 18, 4:29*pm, Tim wrote:
it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.

i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?


During our NE trip gasoline prices ranged from a low of $2.79 to a
high of $3.39.

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.


Tim October 18th 08 11:38 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Oct 18, 5:35*pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.


Absolutely!

JohnH[_3_] October 18th 08 11:56 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.

i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?


Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Wayne.B October 19th 08 02:00 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.


If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.


JohnH[_3_] October 19th 08 01:22 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.


If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.


Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

[email protected] October 19th 08 01:27 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Oct 18, 6:35*pm, JimH wrote:
On Oct 18, 4:29*pm, Tim wrote:

it really feels weird to be buying at $2.45 at the pump. almost wierd
enough feeling with it dropping as when it was raising.


i wonder how long it will take for the overall petroleum-driven side
of the economy to get back into reason?


During our NE trip gasoline prices ranged from a low of $2.79 to a
high of $3.39.

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.


Let's see, as usual, you insulted the hell out of Tom, and as usual,
you realize you were wrong in doing so, but instead of apologizing as
usual, you just start sucking up.

Keith nuttle October 19th 08 02:07 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.

If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.


Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?


If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the market
start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she said she
was going to change the world but did nothing. The congress has been
warned for years that they must do something about the mortgage mess
that bill clinton created when he demanded the industry provide loans to
deadbeats. polisi and the other old line democrats blocked every
attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election to
give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have failed
and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing all of
that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many terrorist groups
that would love to see America destroyed.



Boater October 19th 08 02:12 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't
hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.


Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?


If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the market
start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she said she
was going to change the world but did nothing. The congress has been
warned for years that they must do something about the mortgage mess
that bill clinton created when he demanded the industry provide loans to
deadbeats. polisi and the other old line democrats blocked every
attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election to
give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have failed
and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing all of
that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many terrorist groups
that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


BAR[_3_] October 19th 08 02:44 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't
hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?


If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she
said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The congress
has been warned for years that they must do something about the
mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded the industry
provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old line democrats
blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election to
give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing
all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many
terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?


Boater October 19th 08 02:58 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't
hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she
said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The congress
has been warned for years that they must do something about the
mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded the industry
provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old line democrats
blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election
to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing
all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many
terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff Palin
and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.

Canuck57[_3_] October 19th 08 07:24 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 

"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't hear
a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.


Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?


If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the market
start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she said she was
going to change the world but did nothing. The congress has been warned
for years that they must do something about the mortgage mess that bill
clinton created when he demanded the industry provide loans to deadbeats.
polisi and the other old line democrats blocked every attempt to review
the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election to
give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have failed
and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing all of that
money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many terrorist groups that
would love to see America destroyed.


It was caused by a liberal-democrat congress letting the banks leverage too
far. The reason they did this was to keep the interests lower than market
values, thus a steady and real lack of investment has been occurring in the
loan market. In essence the fed now owns mortgage and debt loan. I expect
bonds, debentures are next. Which is really what the liquidity issue is
really about, a shortage of people lending money at obscenely low rates.
Oh, there are plenty who will loan at market rates, but the return rate
inverted to inflation is a negative yield.

If I loan money in today's market I expect inflation, plus risk, plus a
small profit including taxes payable on the earnings. This would
necessitate a yield of greater than 10%!!! But the congress and fed to the
rescue, they let banks leverage out of control. Congress lends a $1 at
prime, the next bank lends out $25, and then lends to another banks at
$625....a big congress/fed run pyramid scheme if you will.

Then the bubble fiat money created broke. And now the perpetrators pick on
a lame duck president just show how shallow they really think. As the
problem is still with us and $800 billion later no where in sight of being
fixed.

Be prepared for a long recession, maybe a depression. And note how the
markets drop when they "spend" and "print" money to cover, you can't pay
debt with more debt as it comes back as higher taxes, more inflation and
higher unemployment. The market is smarter than fast talking BS from
Congress and the now puppet Bush. Creditors want to be paid not taxed and
devalued.

Now you might ask why government is creating money like a mad drunk. Other
countries have tried this and all have failed, but they will try anyway.
Printing money causes inflation. If you buy a home with little down, say
$250,000. Then it goes down to say $200,000 you are tempted to walk and let
the bank/taxpayer eat it.

But what if I caused inflation at say 30% per year!! That $200.000 will
appreciate in numerical value as the currency runs down. Then becomes worth
$260,000, then $320,000 and soon people are motivated to keep their payments
up and problem solved.

But some dumb fool forgot commodity prices go up as the dollar depreciates.
$20 barrel of oil becomes $50 goes to $100 to peek at $140 before it
recessionary prices back to $80. Don't worry, the full currency dilution
hasn't been felt yet. Look to $150 barrel inside of 2 years.

Amazing how debtors think more debt is the answer. Like a heroin junky,
push a little more each time until the user is dead of an OD.



Keith nuttle October 19th 08 09:35 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she
said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The
congress has been warned for years that they must do something about
the mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded the
industry provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old line
democrats blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election
to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing
all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many
terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff Palin
and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.


There have been several posts in response to my question "Who gave obama
1 BILLION DOLLARS to spend on his campaign". Are all of you people who
are for obama afraid to ask the question.

[email protected] October 19th 08 09:59 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:35:00 -0400, Keith nuttle wrote:


There have been several posts in response to my question "Who gave obama
1 BILLION DOLLARS to spend on his campaign". Are all of you people who
are for obama afraid to ask the question.


What's to answer? The question is BS. No one gave Obama $1 billion.
This past week, Obama just surpassed the $188 million the Republicans
spent in 2004. In *total*, including Obama's, McCain's, the DNC, the
RNC, and all the 527s, spending is expected to reach $1 billion for this
Presidential race.

Keith nuttle October 19th 08 10:29 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:35:00 -0400, Keith nuttle wrote:


There have been several posts in response to my question "Who gave obama
1 BILLION DOLLARS to spend on his campaign". Are all of you people who
are for obama afraid to ask the question.


What's to answer? The question is BS. No one gave Obama $1 billion.
This past week, Obama just surpassed the $188 million the Republicans
spent in 2004. In *total*, including Obama's, McCain's, the DNC, the
RNC, and all the 527s, spending is expected to reach $1 billion for this
Presidential race.


This past month obama collected 150 million.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...g-m-september/

Six month at 150 million /month is about 900 million. obama has been
campaign for for at least 24 months.

Follow the money to find who owns obama, and who is controlling him. It
not the American people to whom he is going to "spread the wealth". (His
quote not mine)

[email protected] October 19th 08 11:01 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:29:37 -0400, Keith nuttle wrote:


Six month at 150 million /month is about 900 million. obama has been
campaign for for at least 24 months.

Follow the money to find who owns obama, and who is controlling him. It
not the American people to whom he is going to "spread the wealth". (His
quote not mine)


In an article posted today, has Obama having raised $605 million. He has
3.1 million donors with an average contribution of $86.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601070&sid=aw2Kje44v5Fk&refer=home

Keith nuttle October 19th 08 11:59 PM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:29:37 -0400, Keith nuttle wrote:


Six month at 150 million /month is about 900 million. obama has been
campaign for for at least 24 months.

Follow the money to find who owns obama, and who is controlling him. It
not the American people to whom he is going to "spread the wealth". (His
quote not mine)


In an article posted today, has Obama having raised $605 million. He has
3.1 million donors with an average contribution of $86.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601070&sid=aw2Kje44v5Fk&refer=home

According to my calculator 86 X 3.1 = 266million. That leaves 350
million unaccounted for. And that is only what he has spent recently.

JohnH[_3_] October 20th 08 12:10 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

JohnH[_3_] October 20th 08 12:10 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

JimH[_5_] October 20th 08 12:35 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35*pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.


Absolutely!


To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?


JohnH[_3_] October 20th 08 01:36 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:35:17 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35*pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.


Absolutely!


To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?


So they will make more money.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

JimH[_5_] October 20th 08 01:50 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:36:27 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:35:17 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35*pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.

Absolutely!


To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?


So they will make more money.



Wow........ya think so John?

Who woulduv thunk? ;-)

Boater October 20th 08 02:05 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
JimH wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:36:27 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:35:17 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35 pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.
Absolutely!
To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?

So they will make more money.



Wow........ya think so John?

Who woulduv thunk? ;-)



Herring is one of the deep non-thinkers here.

JohnH[_3_] October 20th 08 02:22 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:50:44 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:36:27 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:35:17 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35*pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.

Absolutely!

To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?


So they will make more money.



Wow........ya think so John?

Who woulduv thunk? ;-)


Hey, you're the one asking the silly questions!

Duh...
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

BAR[_3_] October 20th 08 02:59 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she
said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The
congress has been warned for years that they must do something about
the mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded the
industry provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old line
democrats blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election
to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing
all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many
terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff Palin
and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.


Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.


Jim October 20th 08 03:01 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Boater wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:36:27 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:35:17 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35 pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.
Absolutely!
To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?
So they will make more money.



Wow........ya think so John?

Who woulduv thunk? ;-)



Herring is one of the deep non-thinkers here.

Totally uncalled for Dirtbag.

BAR[_3_] October 20th 08 03:04 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:35:00 -0400, Keith nuttle wrote:


There have been several posts in response to my question "Who gave obama
1 BILLION DOLLARS to spend on his campaign". Are all of you people who
are for obama afraid to ask the question.


What's to answer? The question is BS. No one gave Obama $1 billion.
This past week, Obama just surpassed the $188 million the Republicans
spent in 2004. In *total*, including Obama's, McCain's, the DNC, the
RNC, and all the 527s, spending is expected to reach $1 billion for this
Presidential race.


When "Good Will" gives Obama a total of $27,000 dollars, in
contributions under $200 each, and lists his address as a single
location of Goodwill Ind. then you get a bit suspicious as to who is
funding Obama's campaign.

If you want to know what is going on or why it is going on you follow
the money. If you don't want to know then you ignore where the money is
coming from.

BAR[_3_] October 20th 08 03:06 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:29:37 -0400, Keith nuttle wrote:


Six month at 150 million /month is about 900 million. obama has been
campaign for for at least 24 months.

Follow the money to find who owns obama, and who is controlling him. It
not the American people to whom he is going to "spread the wealth". (His
quote not mine)


In an article posted today, has Obama having raised $605 million. He has
3.1 million donors with an average contribution of $86.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601070&sid=aw2Kje44v5Fk&refer=home


That is in and of itself very suspicious.

Boater October 20th 08 03:28 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when
she said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The
congress has been warned for years that they must do something
about the mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded
the industry provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old
line democrats blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election
to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is
contributing all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from
the many terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff
Palin and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.


Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.



No wonder you like Sarah Palin...you're both empty-headed.

Boater October 20th 08 03:28 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:36:27 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:35:17 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35 pm, JimH wrote:

The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.

Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.
Absolutely!
To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?
So they will make more money.


Wow........ya think so John?

Who woulduv thunk? ;-)



Herring is one of the deep non-thinkers here.

Totally uncalled for Dirtbag.



Go clean some sparkplugs, chief.

Don White October 20th 08 03:36 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't
hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she
said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The congress
has been warned for years that they must do something about the
mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded the industry
provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old line democrats
blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election to
give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing
all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many
terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about Obama
and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff Palin and
McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.


Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.


Well, you could certainly do with a bit of socialization.



BAR[_3_] October 20th 08 03:39 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH
wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when
she said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The
congress has been warned for years that they must do something
about the mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded
the industry provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old
line democrats blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this
election to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that
historically have failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder
who is contributing all of that money. I don't suppose it is
coming from the many terrorist groups that would love to see
America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff
Palin and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.


Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.



No wonder you like Sarah Palin...you're both empty-headed.


Why are you afraid to admit that you are a socialist too?

BAR[_3_] October 20th 08 03:40 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I don't
hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.
Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?
If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when she
said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The congress
has been warned for years that they must do something about the
mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he demanded the industry
provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the other old line democrats
blocked every attempt to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this election to
give us more of the old socialistic ideas that historically have
failed and made things worse. Has anyone wonder who is contributing
all of that money. I don't suppose it is coming from the many
terrorist groups that would love to see America destroyed.



If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst a
blood vessel. You deserve it.

Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?


Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about Obama
and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff Palin and
McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.

Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.


Well, you could certainly do with a bit of socialization.


That was witty Don. Did you think that up all by yourself?



Boater October 20th 08 03:48 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH
wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when
she said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The
congress has been warned for years that they must do something
about the mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he
demanded the industry provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and the
other old line democrats blocked every attempt to review the
regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this
election to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that
historically have failed and made things worse. Has anyone
wonder who is contributing all of that money. I don't suppose it
is coming from the many terrorist groups that would love to see
America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst
a blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff
Palin and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.

Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.



No wonder you like Sarah Palin...you're both empty-headed.


Why are you afraid to admit that you are a socialist too?



You really are a moron...no wonder you skipped college...you wouldn't
have been able to hack it, even back then in Montgomery County Community
College.

BAR[_3_] October 20th 08 03:53 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH
wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial
crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the demand
lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did the
market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days when
she said she was going to change the world but did nothing. The
congress has been warned for years that they must do something
about the mortgage mess that bill clinton created when he
demanded the industry provide loans to deadbeats. polisi and
the other old line democrats blocked every attempt to review the
regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this
election to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that
historically have failed and made things worse. Has anyone
wonder who is contributing all of that money. I don't suppose
it is coming from the many terrorist groups that would love to
see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you burst
a blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense about
Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly stuff
Palin and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.

Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.



No wonder you like Sarah Palin...you're both empty-headed.


Why are you afraid to admit that you are a socialist too?



You really are a moron...no wonder you skipped college...you wouldn't
have been able to hack it, even back then in Montgomery County Community
College.


I didn't live in Maryland back then. You need to update your dossier.

Tim October 20th 08 05:01 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
On Oct 19, 6:35*pm, JimH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 18, 5:35*pm, JimH wrote:


The morning after we drove home the corner stations were at $2.49.


Tom predicted at this NG this several months ago.........nice call
Tom.


Absolutely!


To get this back on topic (ignoring the flames and political crap from
the usual suspects)..........why don't pump prices drop when crude oil
barrel prices drop as fast as they increase when barrel prices rise?


Jim, I've always wondered about that type of speculation myself. crude
has speculators. But from what I understand, every base petroleum
product. from crude to mineral spirits has their own speculators on
stocks.

Boater October 20th 08 11:24 AM

I'm glad fuel prices are dropping.
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Keith nuttle wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:00:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:56:39 GMT, JohnH
wrote:

Funny how it was Bush's fault when gas prices went up, but I
don't hear a
lot of praise for him as prices go down.
If we did that we'd have to praise him for the financial
crisis as
well. I don't think so.

Well, he was blamed when the demand was high. He got the
demand lowered.
Seems like the silver lining, wouldn't you say?

If this financial criss was caused by President Bush why did
the market start to go down at the end of nancy pelosi 100 days
when she said she was going to change the world but did
nothing. The congress has been warned for years that they must
do something about the mortgage mess that bill clinton created
when he demanded the industry provide loans to deadbeats.
polisi and the other old line democrats blocked every attempt
to review the regulations.

Now obama is spending nearly 1 BILLION DOLLARS to buy this
election to give us more of the old socialistic ideas that
historically have failed and made things worse. Has anyone
wonder who is contributing all of that money. I don't suppose
it is coming from the many terrorist groups that would love to
see America destroyed.




If Obama is elected, I hope it causes you so much angst you
burst a blood vessel. You deserve it.


Does the country as a whole deserve it? Do succeeding generations
deserve the damage caused by an Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Ginsburg run
government?



Of course not. But the whole country isn't making up nonsense
about Obama and socialism, or saying the sort of off the wall ugly
stuff Palin and McCain and some of their supporters are uttering.

Obama is a socialist if not a communist if not a Marxist.



No wonder you like Sarah Palin...you're both empty-headed.

Why are you afraid to admit that you are a socialist too?



You really are a moron...no wonder you skipped college...you wouldn't
have been able to hack it, even back then in Montgomery County
Community College.


I didn't live in Maryland back then. You need to update your dossier.



Whatever...you're the idiot savant of civics and politics, without the
savant part.


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