Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

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Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

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I think "America" is waking up and preparing to turn Thumbs Down on
McPalin, the hate the two of them are spewing, their lack of ideas for
the future, the "robocalls," and the utter, complete, beyond the pale
unpreparedness of Sarah Palin.

But, hey...it's the ticket for Herring, BAR, and the rest of the
reich-wing retardos. You should be ashamed of yourself.

..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

----------------
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I think "America" is waking up and preparing to turn Thumbs Down on
McPalin, the hate the two of them are spewing, their lack of ideas for the
future, the "robocalls," and the utter, complete, beyond the pale
unpreparedness of Sarah Palin.

But, hey...it's the ticket for Herring, BAR, and the rest of the
reich-wing retardos. You should be ashamed of yourself.


My statement has nothing to do with reich-wing retardos or anybody in this
newsgroup. If you notice, it contains no negative comments regarding the
politicians I mentioned either.

My concern is this:

One of the benefits of our government structure is the checks and balances
built into the relationship between the branches of government and
particularly those between the legislative and executive branches. When
one party gains control of both (which is very likely to happen in this
election) and the leadership of both represent an extreme political
philosophy as the people I mentioned do, it's not good for the republic as
we know it.

So, if you are prepared to accept more fundamental changes in our form of
government and are willing to give up even more traditional concepts of
individual rights and freedoms, then by all means, pull the lever for a
straight Democratic ticket.

I'd even be willing to vote for Obama if I thought he would be balanced out
in Congress. I don't think it will happen though.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

----------------
I am Eisboch, and I approve of this message.




I think "America" is waking up and preparing to turn Thumbs Down on
McPalin, the hate the two of them are spewing, their lack of ideas for the
future, the "robocalls," and the utter, complete, beyond the pale
unpreparedness of Sarah Palin.

But, hey...it's the ticket for Herring, BAR, and the rest of the
reich-wing retardos. You should be ashamed of yourself.


My statement has nothing to do with reich-wing retardos or anybody in this
newsgroup. If you notice, it contains no negative comments regarding the
politicians I mentioned either.

My concern is this:

One of the benefits of our government structure is the checks and balances
built into the relationship between the branches of government and
particularly those between the legislative and executive branches. When
one party gains control of both (which is very likely to happen in this
election) and the leadership of both represent an extreme political
philosophy as the people I mentioned do, it's not good for the republic as
we know it.

So, if you are prepared to accept more fundamental changes in our form of
government and are willing to give up even more traditional concepts of
individual rights and freedoms, then by all means, pull the lever for a
straight Democratic ticket.

I'd even be willing to vote for Obama if I thought he would be balanced out
in Congress. I don't think it will happen though.

Eisboch




The odds are against the Democrats reaching 60 seats in the US Senate,
even counting Tailgunner Joe of Connecticut, whose "star" in the
Democratic party, even though he is now an "Indy," will set.

Further, I've heard nothing out of Obama, Reid, or Pelosi that indicates
to me that any of them, individually or collectively, plan any radical
fundamental changes. This country is broke, thanks to all the years of
Republican deficit spending, and any new programs Obama wants to
implement will have to be done in extremely small steps.

I don't see where any of the Dems are planning "fundamental changes" in
our *form* of government, or working to limit individual rights and
freedoms. In fact, if elected, I suspect Obama will trashcan a lot of
the Bush "initiatives" that eroded our rights and our Constitution. I
want to see even the notion of torture forbidden and I want to see
habeas restored fully, for everyone under our purview. No more offshore
prisons or renditions, thank you.

I've heard several Republicans these past few weeks begging the
population not to elect Obama or increase the number of seats held in
Congress by Democrats. I think it has very little to do with preserving
the nation and everything to do with trying to minimize the damage.

As far as I am concerned, after all the damage Bush and the Republicans
have inflicted on this country the past eight ears, the Republicans can
wander in the wilderness for the next 40.

..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

----------------
I am Eisboch, and I approve of this message.




I think "America" is waking up and preparing to turn Thumbs Down on
McPalin, the hate the two of them are spewing, their lack of ideas for
the future, the "robocalls," and the utter, complete, beyond the pale
unpreparedness of Sarah Palin.

But, hey...it's the ticket for Herring, BAR, and the rest of the
reich-wing retardos. You should be ashamed of yourself.


My statement has nothing to do with reich-wing retardos or anybody in
this newsgroup. If you notice, it contains no negative comments
regarding the politicians I mentioned either.

My concern is this:

One of the benefits of our government structure is the checks and
balances built into the relationship between the branches of government
and particularly those between the legislative and executive branches.
When one party gains control of both (which is very likely to happen in
this election) and the leadership of both represent an extreme political
philosophy as the people I mentioned do, it's not good for the republic
as we know it.

So, if you are prepared to accept more fundamental changes in our form of
government and are willing to give up even more traditional concepts of
individual rights and freedoms, then by all means, pull the lever for a
straight Democratic ticket.

I'd even be willing to vote for Obama if I thought he would be balanced
out in Congress. I don't think it will happen though.

Eisboch


The odds are against the Democrats reaching 60 seats in the US Senate,
even counting Tailgunner Joe of Connecticut, whose "star" in the
Democratic party, even though he is now an "Indy," will set.

Further, I've heard nothing out of Obama, Reid, or Pelosi that indicates
to me that any of them, individually or collectively, plan any radical
fundamental changes. This country is broke, thanks to all the years of
Republican deficit spending, and any new programs Obama wants to implement
will have to be done in extremely small steps.

I don't see where any of the Dems are planning "fundamental changes" in
our *form* of government, or working to limit individual rights and
freedoms. In fact, if elected, I suspect Obama will trashcan a lot of the
Bush "initiatives" that eroded our rights and our Constitution. I want to
see even the notion of torture forbidden and I want to see habeas restored
fully, for everyone under our purview. No more offshore prisons or
renditions, thank you.

I've heard several Republicans these past few weeks begging the population
not to elect Obama or increase the number of seats held in Congress by
Democrats. I think it has very little to do with preserving the nation and
everything to do with trying to minimize the damage.

As far as I am concerned, after all the damage Bush and the Republicans
have inflicted on this country the past eight ears, the Republicans can
wander in the wilderness for the next 40.


All one has to do is listen to Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Kerry, Reid, Clinton and
Obama individually, then sum.
Obama is not being honest in his promises either, in scope or timeframe.

Fortunately, we have another branch. If push comes to shove, initiatives
can and will be tested in the Supreme Court in terms of compliance to the
Constitution. Until the Court converts also, that is.

I am really concerned about this. Some of Obama's statements are downright
scary to people of my bent. And I am not an extreme "righty".

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

----------------
I am Eisboch, and I approve of this message.



I think "America" is waking up and preparing to turn Thumbs Down on
McPalin, the hate the two of them are spewing, their lack of ideas for
the future, the "robocalls," and the utter, complete, beyond the pale
unpreparedness of Sarah Palin.

But, hey...it's the ticket for Herring, BAR, and the rest of the
reich-wing retardos. You should be ashamed of yourself.

My statement has nothing to do with reich-wing retardos or anybody in
this newsgroup. If you notice, it contains no negative comments
regarding the politicians I mentioned either.

My concern is this:

One of the benefits of our government structure is the checks and
balances built into the relationship between the branches of government
and particularly those between the legislative and executive branches.
When one party gains control of both (which is very likely to happen in
this election) and the leadership of both represent an extreme political
philosophy as the people I mentioned do, it's not good for the republic
as we know it.

So, if you are prepared to accept more fundamental changes in our form of
government and are willing to give up even more traditional concepts of
individual rights and freedoms, then by all means, pull the lever for a
straight Democratic ticket.

I'd even be willing to vote for Obama if I thought he would be balanced
out in Congress. I don't think it will happen though.

Eisboch

The odds are against the Democrats reaching 60 seats in the US Senate,
even counting Tailgunner Joe of Connecticut, whose "star" in the
Democratic party, even though he is now an "Indy," will set.

Further, I've heard nothing out of Obama, Reid, or Pelosi that indicates
to me that any of them, individually or collectively, plan any radical
fundamental changes. This country is broke, thanks to all the years of
Republican deficit spending, and any new programs Obama wants to implement
will have to be done in extremely small steps.

I don't see where any of the Dems are planning "fundamental changes" in
our *form* of government, or working to limit individual rights and
freedoms. In fact, if elected, I suspect Obama will trashcan a lot of the
Bush "initiatives" that eroded our rights and our Constitution. I want to
see even the notion of torture forbidden and I want to see habeas restored
fully, for everyone under our purview. No more offshore prisons or
renditions, thank you.

I've heard several Republicans these past few weeks begging the population
not to elect Obama or increase the number of seats held in Congress by
Democrats. I think it has very little to do with preserving the nation and
everything to do with trying to minimize the damage.

As far as I am concerned, after all the damage Bush and the Republicans
have inflicted on this country the past eight ears, the Republicans can
wander in the wilderness for the next 40.


All one has to do is listen to Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Kerry, Reid, Clinton and
Obama individually, then sum.
Obama is not being honest in his promises either, in scope or timeframe.

Fortunately, we have another branch. If push comes to shove, initiatives
can and will be tested in the Supreme Court in terms of compliance to the
Constitution. Until the Court converts also, that is.

I am really concerned about this. Some of Obama's statements are downright
scary to people of my bent. And I am not an extreme "righty".

Eisboch




Well, I haven't heard anything from Obama that
I find scary. I have no idea of what you may find scary in his ideas,
nor am I familiar with any of the possibly passable ideas of Pelosi,
Frank, Dodd, Kerry, Reid or Clinton that scare me.

Obama is well-versed in the Constitution. I doubt he will push for
initiatives that the Supremes will declare unConstitutional. That
doesn't prevent litigants from trying, of course.

If Obama is elected, I will look forward to his Supreme Court nominations.

"Boater" wrote in message
...


The odds are against the Democrats reaching 60 seats in the US Senate,
even counting Tailgunner Joe of Connecticut, whose "star" in the
Democratic party, even though he is now an "Indy," will set.

Further, I've heard nothing out of Obama, Reid, or Pelosi that indicates
to me that any of them, individually or collectively, plan any radical
fundamental changes. This country is broke, thanks to all the years of
Republican deficit spending, and any new programs Obama wants to implement
will have to be done in extremely small steps.

I don't see where any of the Dems are planning "fundamental changes" in
our *form* of government, or working to limit individual rights and
freedoms. In fact, if elected, I suspect Obama will trashcan a lot of the
Bush "initiatives" that eroded our rights and our Constitution. I want to
see even the notion of torture forbidden and I want to see habeas restored
fully, for everyone under our purview. No more offshore prisons or
renditions, thank you.

I've heard several Republicans these past few weeks begging the population
not to elect Obama or increase the number of seats held in Congress by
Democrats. I think it has very little to do with preserving the nation and
everything to do with trying to minimize the damage.

As far as I am concerned, after all the damage Bush and the Republicans
have inflicted on this country the past eight ears, the Republicans can
wander in the wilderness for the next 40.


Congratulations. That was your best, original, non-cut-and-paste,
non-insulting political post made so far in this election cycle.

Appreciate it.

Eisboch

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:04:24 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



Pelosi
Reid
Dodd
Clinton
Frank
Kerry.....

with a new "leader" .....

Barak Obama .... rated the most liberal senator of all...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Wake up America!

----------------
I am Eisboch, and I approve of this message.



Yeah, but if you vote for Obama, he'll give you a $1000 tax rebate, whether
you paid taxes or not.

Until the gullible learn that $1000 isn't going to do more than put a new
TV on the floor, they'll vote for the up front money. Hurting the 'rich'
sounds good. It doesn't better the lives of Obama's 'base', but it sure
sounds good!

I believe it will take a generation or so for the gullible to realize
they've been had.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]