I'm voting republican because...
 

"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote:



"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be
undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin
is.


Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of
some liberal boner shrinker.

Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a
housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign
with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or
tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?

Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the
Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current
condition?

Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses?

Neither. Here I thought you were finally ready to discuss something real
with me, but I notice your gratuitous name calling, even before I had the
chance to respond. No matter, let's address the facts.

Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win the
office of President.

Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.

Secondly, your every post, ok 99% of your posts, claim that somebody is
lying, misrepresenting, lying through misrepresenting, lying by
misdirecting, lying buy misconsideration, etc. Because of your track record
of calling everyone you disagree with a liar, you are like the boy who cried
wolf. Your claims of lies and misrepresentations cannot be taken seriously,.
When you complain that Sarah Palin started her career with lies and
misrepresentations, I can equate that with the time you called me a liar
because I stated you were intelligent. This is what I mean when I say you
are noise, you have misrepresented yourself so much, that everything you say
is suspect and potentially a lie.

Sarah Palin speaks English, better English than the ebonics that Obama
speaks. She doesn't "misspeak" or tell lies like Obama does. No foreign
language speaking is required for the office she is seeking. On the other
hand, Obama does speak a foreign language, he speaks Bahasa. What is Bahasa
you ask? It is the language spoken in the world's most populous Muslim
majority nation., Indonesia. "When prominent Indonesians visit the U.S.,
the first person they want to meet is Obama, says Parnohadiningrat
Sudjadnan, the Indonesian ambassador to the U.S. 'Back home people think of
him as one of us, or at least one who understands us,' he says, adding that
they are delighted to find that Obama speaks passable Bahasa, the language
spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...695803,00.html

As for strategic, tactical, or military experience, Sarah Palin is also
better qualified as evidenced by these shooting photos. Even Hillary
outranks Obama.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...80_570587a.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...0obama.650.jpg
Caution, picture of liberal boner shrinker linked below.
http://www.appletreeblog.com/wp-cont...linton-gun.jpg

Regarding Palin burning books, this is a statement made out of desperation
by the liberals who fear that there is finally somebody worth electing to
the White House, and it isn't Obama. All mentions of book burning appear to
be from lib blogs, in response to rumors that Palin tried to ban books. This
is also False. As proof I offer this link to snopes.com where this was
firmly stated as being false, unlike your link to snopes where it is not
stated as False, that Obama thought there were 57 states.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp

As for Palin and her belief in God, I find it refreshing that she is not
afraid to express her faith. Did not Obama utter "God Bless America" once
himself? Yes he did, he believes God will Bless America, otherwise why would
he say it? Was it just political? Yes, I recall it was when his loving
pastor, Rev. Wright said blacks should sing "God damn American" instead of
"God bless America." I'll take Palin over Obama, any day. And she's a hottie
too.

Insert gratuitous attack here.

I'm voting republican because...
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:12 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


obama's been a senator for 4 years...has 3 significant pieces of
legislation

And in the 146 days he actually showed up..what were those pieces of
legislation again?


i dunno. what did mcbush do in his 10,000 days in congress? not much
more it seems, other than help to sponsor legislation causing the
meltdown of the US economy.

Who is mcbush?



mccain's been in govt. for 26 years...has about 6 pieces.

mccain's not a leader. he's a follower. he's not the brightest bulb in
congress, but he IS a big liar.

Cites?

what did he say when confronted with proof palin lied about earmarks?

he lied

what did he say about obama's policy on sex ed? he lied

check the WSJ today. even the far right wing press is calling him a
sleazebag.




, he just voted
the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of
friends, is extremely leftist.

and mccain is dedicated to bankrupting the US. his economic advisor,
phil gramm, is partially responsible for the lehman bros/merrill lynch
meltdown we saw today.

Right. Cites?

ever hear of phil gramm? economic advisor to mccain?

guess who authored the deregulation of the banking industry?

guess who's wife sat on the board of directors of enron when gramm
deregulated SEC oversight?

gee. you really ARE drinking GOP kool aid by the bucket load, aren't
you?




not sure why you love poverty, but if you vote mccain you'll get to
experience it first hand.

He has proposed huge increase in Government
and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt
being passed on to them

biggest spenders in the last 30 years?

ronald reagan

Would that be the same St Ronald Reagan who rebuilt the military that
Carter destroyed, ended the Cold War and ended Communism through most
of the planet?
Seems like money well spent.

ever read alexander kozyrev's article in 'foreign affairs quarterly'?
he was foreign affairs minister under the last soviet govt.

Yes I have.

he said it was ECONOMIC competition, not MILITARY competition that
destroyed the USSR

All those competative foreign exports eh, like AK-74s?

more kool aid for you, i guess.


george bush

Hummm...something about rebuilding the military that Clinton
destroyed, and engaged in a war voted for by Democrats?

Seems that Democrats are pretty good about destroying the military no?
And forcing Republicans to rebuild it.

gee. bush went to war against the taliban with the military that
clinton built. seems we won in a matter of weeks.

Really? Then why did the Leftwingers bitch about no armor, no up
armored vehicles etc etc et?

oh. you forgot about 9/11.

yeah...figures.

Odd..I was going to say the same thing to you.




both republicans.

Say..hows that Great Society/War on Poverty coming along? About the
same as that War on (some) Drugs?

war on drugs? you mean the 'lock 'em up and throw away the key'
approach that conservatives have pushed that has led to the US having
more prisoners than any country in the world?

Throw away the key? Sonny...Im an ex cop. If we had done just
that..we wouldnt be having the problems we do have.
Its called a revolving door.

You dont know much, do you?

Gunner

I'm voting republican because...
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....


Odd...how come the Dems keep funding it?

Say...how long were we in Vietnam, under Democrat leadership...hummm?

Snicker

Our economy...
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:24*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15

Right. And the check is in the mail.

john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the
economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the
economy is, indeed, doing fine

as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'.....

Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those
statements...is exquisite.

Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but
themselves pay for it.

i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid

'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and
spend...on the rich...the GOP motto

sorry..wrong, unless your version of history starts on Jan 7, 2001

You must be the result of a NEA school curriculum.
Though Ill bet you feel good about yourself, wallowing around in your
ignorance.

Gunner

Our economy...
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.





Actually..it is strong.




"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Cites?

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Bush's fault?

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Bush's fault?


Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Bush's fault?


Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Gasoline is going down, does he get credit for that too?


Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.

Bush controls the Media?



But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."


I passed 11 brand new machine tools all nicly wrapped in plastic on
trucks last week at variouis times, Haas, Fadal etc

Been in a Walmart lately?

Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.

Are we in a recession? Yes, but not a bad one. Seen any bread lines
and soup kitchens lately?

If there had been a Democrat in office, we likely would be going
through the same cycle..and you would be claiming all was rosey

You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.

Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner, reader of history long before Jan 7, 2001

Our economy...
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:07:07 -0500, Nicholas
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.





Actually..it is strong.




"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."

The way these people *think* is along these lines:

a recession is when the other guy is out of work

a depression is when YOU are out of work

take a look at what's going on in Michigan (Detroit area) as far as
union wage cuts and employee cuts are concerned. Or the Nevada real
estate market.

They have been in the ******** for years..even before Clinton.
Rustbelt ring any bells?

Or any of the textile regions of the southeast.
That goes back to at least Carter. when shoes and textiles were
offshored.


People are hurting _badly_. Anyone who denies this is living on
another planet. And to bring it home...take a hard look at
California's economy.

I live in California.


Banks are folding, that have been in business for 100 years, and the
"leading economic indicators" on Wall Street show a house of cards
collapsing to the ground.

Greed is a terrible thing when it goes out of control.

Still, there are those who remain in denial. Stuck on Stupid. Who
think things are just fine and dandy.

Nick

I said the economy is still strong, not that everything was fine and
dandy.

The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote:



"John R. Carroll" wrote in
message
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Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be
undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election.
Palin
is.


Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years,
instead
of
some liberal boner shrinker.

Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands
of
a
housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her
campaign
with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic
or
tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military
experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?

Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded
the
Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current
condition?

Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses?

--
Regards, Curly

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She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot
from
his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal
legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a
living.
How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social
programs?
How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens
earnings?

You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most
liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have
been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative
crap
that no one can predict.




Explain who is more liberal. He may not really be the most liberal.
Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills, he just
voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice
of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in
Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not
afford more debt being passed on to them.


Find your answer he
http://www.google.com/search?rls=ig&...earch&aq=f&oq=

I'm voting republican because...
 

On Sep 15, 9:23*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.

and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....

Odd...how come the Dems keep funding it?

Say...how long were we in Vietnam, under Democrat leadership...hummm?

Snicker

and how long were we there under the war criminal, republican nixon,
who unleashed the CIA to spy on american citizens? (source: 'the
history of the CIA' by matt weiner)

Our economy...
 

On Sep 15, 9:26*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Sep 15, 4:24*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15

Right. And the check is in the mail.

john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the
economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the
economy is, indeed, doing fine

as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'.....

Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those
statements...is exquisite.

Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but
themselves pay for it.

i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid

'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and
spend...on the rich...the GOP motto

sorry..wrong, unless your version of history starts on Jan 7, 2001

well...you said it so it must be so.

and, you're a mccain supporter, therefore you're a liar

for an objective analysis of the size of the deficits, see

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...es_and_no.html


You must be the result of a NEA school curriculum.
Though Ill bet you feel good about yourself, wallowing around in your
ignorance.


says the man who watches mccain as if he is a bobble-head doll, just
bouncing his empty head everytime mccain spouts a lie.

Our economy...
 

On Sep 15, 9:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.-

sorry...the GOP has already sold the US to the chinese. there's
nothing left to tax